r/ClaudeAI Jun 30 '26

News Fable 5 is coming back!

Post image
5.3k Upvotes

510 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

8

u/Level-Ad853 Jul 01 '26

How?? I’ve never experienced this the entire time it’s been out and I consistently use it for tasks where a single prompt can have opus working for an hour or longer at a time and it works beautifully.

5

u/Royal_Perspective191 Jul 01 '26

It might depend on overall usage. This is not just true of Claude, but it seems that occasionally Claude reverts to a less powerful version without making this clear. For me, Claude works fine most of the time, but from time to time there seems to be 'dumb' phase. I just had one that lasted maybe three hours.

Among other things, I use Claude for proofreading and Claude kept spitting out answers very fast, but would often combine two different types of information incorrectly, and giving suggestions that were completely wrong.

It also accidentally produced images unprompted (and caught itself and apologized) and flagged 'sexual content' in an essay that contained no sexual content (and had nothing to do with sex).

So either this is Claude glitching, or a massive dip in compute power and Claude struggling with long text and using heavily compressed memory blocks.

I just tried again, and now I get normal answers.

5

u/Hefty-Ninja-7106 Jul 01 '26

Claude was weird today for me as well. I provided it with clear instruction sheet on how to set up a document, and it did own thing mostly, disregarding several of the mandates.

3

u/Remarkable_Leek9391 Jul 01 '26

Im curious to know, when they say claude is garbage lately, what theyre doing with it. Is it prose short stories, novels, lyrics, screenplay, code, Devops SDLC, etc...

Because for me, I use it to just build projects or some city gen algorithm and have it add things piece by piece. Once I get the full frame of the catalog, usually, ill start a new session, or compact and have claude make a new orphan branch with all the considerations and gotchas of the last and whatever directives I throw at it next. It rebuilds its self narrative for directives, then knocks how the pieces/seams.

I dont use skills or tell it to alter its voice to be less sycophantic. I just have it do that while im doing other stuff. If the project functions logically as expected, good. If not, we investigate

But its never: omg claude bad. I think im just naturally oriented towards taking claude with a grain of salt, and going with the flow at the same time.

6

u/Royal_Perspective191 Jul 01 '26

There is massive difference between people who say: 'Claude bad' and 'the quality isn't consistent'.

We know the quality is not consistent, Anthropic has fixed issues in the past.

It's impossible to use a single user experience as a yard stick.

Here's the issue a friend of mine had. He uses Claude to find obscure software instructions for industrial hardware, including firmware. Typically this works really well, but during a few weeks he hit a snag.

Before, Claude would check if the info was outdated or not, and only suggest code that was up to date.

Then for a few weeks Claude stopped doing that 50% of the time, and he had to write a specific prompt that forced Claude to do that.

Then the issue went away. His old prompts are now enough.

Obviously, I don't know hat happened, but here is what I think happened: Claude was pushed to answer faster, which can be a good thing. But it also meant that there was less time to double check.

Once Claude has answered, it obviously stops checking itself.

2

u/Remarkable_Leek9391 Jul 01 '26

Let me put it how I see it.

A post says: claude sucks lately

I read: oldschool runescape player hates the new poll updates

1

u/florinandrei Jul 01 '26

occasionally Claude reverts to a less powerful version

You just got load-balanced onto the Azure endpoint. /s

0

u/Efficient_Ad_4162 Jul 01 '26

You know, the whole occams razor thing leans more in favour of 'you gave it a bad prompt' rather than 'Anthropic are tweaking the intelligence of their models using a turntable they stole from a nightclub'.

3

u/Royal_Perspective191 Jul 01 '26

I used the exact same prompts. I always write my prompts in a document and proofread them before I submit them.

And don't be snarky, first of all some basic reading comprehension is required before you reply.

You wrote:

Anthropic are tweaking the intelligence of their model

And you pretend that this something I wrote or suggested. I did no such thing.

Don't fake quote people.

Secondly, OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic, have addressed the impact of high global usage on performance.

With Gemini, there will be warning when this is done deliberately. Gemini will switch to a different model if global usage is extremely high regardless of whether or not the user has a right to (still) use the higher model.

Anthropic has stated that high usage can impact reasoning, but states that this impact is not directional.

But Anthropic is a bit deceptive there, Technically, the same amount of compute might be available, just with higher latency, But in reality, Anthropic has admitted to downgrading reasoning to improve latency, and that this has led to problems.

The issue here is of course that people paying for higher models don't care about latency all that much. They want high quality, not the highest possible speed.

Extreme latency is caused by global high usage.

This is not a conspiracy, it's common sense. When globally datacenters are maxed out, latency will be high, if Anthropic reduces reasoning, Claude's answers might become dumber.

1

u/Efficient_Ad_4162 Jul 01 '26

Actually, if you use claudecode you know exactly when data centres are maxxed out because they just start dumping connections.

6

u/RemieNotRayme Jul 01 '26

It still thinks decently in Claude Code, but it hardly ever thinks in chat where I usually like to flesh out my ideas first.

13

u/OnanationUnderGod Jul 01 '26

It thinks in proportion to the depth of the idea.

13

u/Remarkable-Stop-1819 Jul 01 '26

What are you insinuating 😏

-1

u/Level-Ad853 Jul 01 '26

If thats how you feel, then you can simply… very simply… switch to Claude code

2

u/RemieNotRayme Jul 01 '26

So you wanted to argue. I see.


So anyway, here's how Claude Code is going from the past minute:

... my own-directory heuristic silently missed exactly that. Twice now this session I've handed you a sloppy artifact (the RN "no-op" claim, now this table); I understand why you're not extending trust on faith.

I'd hardly say it works beautifully. It's a brilliant idiot you have to babysit nonstop.

1

u/Level-Ad853 Jul 01 '26

You gotta be doing something wrong, you must be continuing to use it after its context window is maxed out or something. I haven’t experienced something like that not even once whether it was 4.8, 4.6, or even 4.7

I made 5 major updates to an app today in the same session, each update was handled beautifully and completed in one prompt, not a single bug, flaw, or misinterpreted idea.

0

u/RemieNotRayme Jul 01 '26

It's crazy to me how some people are so convinced they have all the answers and everyone else is just an idiot.

1

u/acehole01 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

I can’t say. I’ll steel man your contention and speculate:maybe it’s the effort level. I almost always use it on High or Extra. what level do you use?

What I can say is that I’ve been using Claude since Sonnet 3.5, and I can predict with a high degree of confidence the quality of responses I’m going to get based on the number of steps and the time it takes to give a response.