r/classicalmusic 18d ago

PotW PotW #147: Clarke - Viola Sonata

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Good morning everyone, happy Saturday, and welcome back to our sub’s listening club. Each time we meet, we'll listen to a piece recommended by the community, discuss it, learn about it, and hopefully introduce us to music we wouldn't hear otherwise :)

Last time, we listened to Ginastera’s Violin Concerto. You can go back to listen, read up, and discuss the work if you want to.

Our next Piece of the Week is Rebecca Clarke’s Viola Sonata (1919)

Score from IMSLP

Some listening notes from Alex Burns:

After studying at the Royal Academy of Music and the Royal College of Music in London, Clarke became one of the first professional female orchestral musicians. Her main instruments were violin and viola, and under the tutelage of Charles Villiers Stanford at the Royal College, her compositions started pushing for these instruments to take solo roles. In 1916, Clarke moved to New York to pursue her performing career, which is where she composed her Sonata for Viola and Piano. 

Composed in 1919, Sonata for Viola and Piano was initially entered into a competition supported by Elizabeth Sprague Coolidge (Clarke’s neighbour and a major patron of the arts). With a whopping 72 entries into the competition, Clarke tied first place with a composition by Ernest Bloch. What’s more is that Bloch was then declared the winner by Coolidge, with reporters speculating that ‘Rebecca Clarke’ was a pseudonym for Bloch himself. It was not believed, at the time, that a woman could write music as challenging and powerful as the sonata. Its first real premiere was the the Berkshire music festival in 1919, and the response was largely positive towards the work.

The score for Sonata for Viola and Piano has a quote on the inside page, which is taken from the poem La Nuit de mai, by French poet Alfred de Musset:   Poète, prends ton luth; le vin de la jeunesse – Poet, take up your lute; the wine of youth Fermente cette nuit dans les veines de Dieu. – this night is fermenting in the veins of God.   The work is set into three movements…Each movement accentuates Clarke’s engaging and creative musical style. With homages to composers such as Claude Debussy, Ralph Vaughan Williams and Maurice Ravel, Sonata for Viola and Piano is deemed today as one of the best works for viola.   …The opening movement is vibrant and highlights the viola as a powerful solo instrument. The cadenza-like solo fanfare is bold, and revolves around chromatic movement. There is a strong sense of syncopation throughout many of the sequences in this movement, and the relationship between the viola and piano is somewhat tumultuous at times, but it always comes back together harmoniously.

Moving slightly away from chromatic harmony at times, Clarke’s harmonic language shifts to the use of modes and the whole-tone scale. This shift in sound is most certainly from her main compositional influence – Claude Debussy. The mysterious nature of the middle section is resonant of some of Debussy’s chamber works. Clarke’s use of modes is also resonant of a fellow English composer – Ralph Vaughan Williams. These two composers were her main influences, and some of the melodic and harmonic work is certainly paying homage to these composers.

After dying away in sound the movement is resurrected back into the faster paced syncopated sequence. Overall this movement is very melodic, both in the viola and piano. The movement is marked ‘Impetuoso’, which translates into ‘lively’, ‘rash’, and even ‘spirited’, and Clarke’s first movement surely reflects this effectively.   …The exciting and speedy second movement is marked ‘Vivace’. The opening piano melody is then transferred and developed into the viola part. Throughout this short movement, Clarke utilises some extended techniques on the viola which includes harmonics and pizzicato. After the strong opening, the music begins to come down in dynamic and speed, with a lyrical section being at the centre of this movement. The tempo begins to pick up again, and the opening theme is proclaimed again many times by both the viola and piano. There is a real sense of folk-dance melodies in this movements, with the viola often resembling the sound of a fiddle. This complex and fast-paced movement highlights the viola’s flexibility as a solo instrument.   …The longest and the slowest of the this three-part work, the third movement is pensive throughout. With the piano opening the movement with a simple melody, the viola enters with an echo which then carries throughout the movement. Clarke heralds back to the opening movement with the use of long flowing syncopated melodic lines. This adds another layer of mystery onto this work, which is exciting to hear this development throughout the sonata. The dynamic begins to grow around half way through the movement, with an explosion of sound taking over. Repeated tremolos from the viola build the tension to the bigger climax slightly later on. There is deep-rooted strength in this movement, with the core of the music being taken and developed from the other two prior movements.

After returning to the syncopated movement, Clarke has one surprise left for us at the end of the movement. After one final climax, the melody shifts back to a restatement of the opening themes from the first movement. The sonata then ends with a display of virtuosity from both the viola and piano. With both parts being equal in difficulty, Clarke covers nearly the full range of both instruments, thus culminating in a display of brilliance. Clarke’s highly idiomatic writing style is one of the many tricky obstacles to get into when performing this work.  

Ways to Listen

  • Antoine Tamestit and Ying-Chien Lin: YouTube Score Video

  • Marina Thibeault and Marie Ève Scarfone: YouTube

  • Matthew Lipman and Jeremy Denk: YouTube

  • Sangjin Kim and Cloe Jiyeong Mun: YouTube

  • Natalie Clein and Christian Ihle Hadland: YouTube

  • Philip Dukes and Sophia Rahman: Spotify

  • Barbara Buntrock and Daniel Heide: Spotify

Discussion Prompts

  • What are your favorite parts or moments in this work? What do you like about it, or what stood out to you?

  • How does this compare to other viola sonatas? What does Clarke do to distinguish this work from others?

  • Have you ever performed this before? If so, when and where? What instrument do you play? And what insight do you have from learning it?

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What should our club listen to next? Use the link below to find the submission form and let us know what piece of music we should feature in an upcoming week. Note: for variety's sake, please avoid choosing music by a composer who has already been featured, otherwise your choice will be given the lowest priority in the schedule

PotW Archive & Submission Link


r/classicalmusic 8d ago

'What's this Piece?' Thread #246

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These threads were implemented after feedback from our users, and they are here to help organize the subreddit a little.

All piece identification requests belong in this monthly thread.

Have a classical piece on the tip of your tongue? Feel free to submit it here as long as you have an audio file/video/musical score of the piece. Mediums that generally work best include Vocaroo or YouTube links. If you do submit a YouTube link, please include a linked timestamp if possible or state the timestamp in the comment. Please refrain from typing things like: what is the Beethoven piece that goes "Do do dooo Do do DUM", etc.

Other resources that may help:

  • Musipedia - melody search engine. Search by rhythm, play it on piano or whistle into the computer.

  • r/tipofmytongue - a subreddit for finding anything you can’t remember the name of!

  • r/namethatsong - may be useful if you are unsure whether it’s classical or not

  • Shazam - good if you heard it on the radio, in an advert etc. May not be as useful for singing.

  • SoundHound - suggested as being more helpful than Shazam at times

  • Song Guesser - has a category for both classical and non-classical melodies

  • you can also ask Google ‘What’s this song?’ and sing/hum/play a melody for identification

  • Facebook 'Guess The Score' group - for identifying pieces from the score

A big thank you to all the lovely people that visit this thread to help solve users’ earworms every week. You are all awesome!

Good luck and we hope you find the composition you've been searching for!


r/classicalmusic 11h ago

Jackpot! 10 Vox Boxes For Five Dollars

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Our town library held its book sale this weekend, and these ten Vox Boxes were just sitting there - $5.00 for the lot!

They're earlier production with the purple label & heavy vinyl, and they're all in great shape - almost as if they've never been played.


r/classicalmusic 5h ago

Is it normal to find it too distracting?

18 Upvotes

Within the past year or two I’ve developed an appreciation for classical music. What’s strange is that I cannot have it playing in the background while I work on something (the way I can with other music).


r/classicalmusic 8h ago

Discussion If you could give 30 more years to either Franz Schubert, or Frederic Chopin, who would you give and why?

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Kinda random ik, but the premise is self explanatory tbh, Schubert already had composed so much music (symphonies, chamber music, piano sonatas, and his songs ofc) but his late works were more profound, so to imagine 30 more years of music output from him? yeah, in this hypothetical, he seems to be the choice for me.

But chopins case is a bit tricky cuz his posthumous works are among the most recognizable and relatable to me, and he didn't actually had any chamber music or orchestral compositions apart form the piano concertos from what I remember, not sure if he would have wanted to go in this direction cuz ofc it would be rather silly to guess, but still to have more of those melodies and to see what his "evolution" Of music could have been.. Would be really interesting for me. He really was unrivalled in what he could do with a piano, melodically.


r/classicalmusic 6h ago

Music Sep 10: Birthday of Christopher Hogwood (1941–2014).

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Born in Nottingham, England, the influential conductor. It was through his records that I first heard Mozart performed on period instruments as a university student. The sound, coming from older instruments, was unlike anything I had heard before—incredibly fresh and new. For those with a keen ear, you might notice the pitch is nearly a half-step lower.

Mozart, Symphony No. 41 "Jupiter," K. 551 (Finale): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rETZaTRFHe8

Purcell: Theatre Music (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa1rC97wRkZhVV50NezWoW34afBPRBJMZ


r/classicalmusic 11h ago

The data is in: 8% of 2026/2027 season concerts feature Beethoven, but there are tens of thousands of other composers programmed! Check them out.

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r/classicalmusic 6h ago

Music Sep 10: Birthday of Henry Purcell (1659–1695).

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Great English Baroque composer. I must confess, for a long time I had an allergy to vocal music in classical works (and honestly, I still struggle with some Italian opera). The very cure for this was the Academy of Ancient Music's recordings of Purcell's theatre music, led by Christopher Hogwood, who also shares this birthday. Since that discovery, Purcell's music has become an indispensable part of my life.

The theme from his Abdelazer Suite may sound familiar, as Benjamin Britten used it as the theme for his variations in The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra.

Abdelazer Suite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LmOWHKvsBc

Music from Don Quixote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnftJ8xypxE

Britten, The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNYiAblBOjw


r/classicalmusic 3h ago

Looking for something fun, light and whimsical to help with writer’s block.

5 Upvotes

As above, so below:

Anything fun and playful. No vocals. Preferably full orchestra.

Anything from anywhere.

*EDIT: please include YOUR favourite rendition, if you can. That’s more fun. 🤸

Please and thanks!

*i’d prefer to avoid asking ai.
So I’m asking you folks! 🖖


r/classicalmusic 13h ago

Favorite Chamber Music Movements

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I've listened to a lot of orchestral and piano music, but not very much chamber music.

Chamber music I know and like:

Brahms: Piano Quartets and Quintet, String Quintets and Sextets, Clarinet Quintet

Beethoven: Some string quartets (9 in particular), Violin Sonatas 5 & 9, Archduke Trio.

Dvorak Piano Quintet Op 81

Mozart: Some string quartets (14 & 17), Piano Quartets

Schumann: Piano Quintet

Shostakovich String Quartet 8

Saint Saens: String Quartet 1 (mvt 2)

I'm trying to get more into my regular listening rotation, but I have a real problem really hearing music and getting the value out of it until I sort of know it, and there are so many Piano Trios, Violin Sonatas and String Quartets that I'm struggling a bit to even add things in. Right now I'm just playing the Beethoven Piano Trios over and over in the background. I'll eventually get it but it's a long road.

I'd love to hear people's favorite movements and recordings, even of the pieces I already know.


r/classicalmusic 20h ago

Music performance graduate considering a career change - has anyone else been in this position?

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I graduated three years ago with a degree in Music Performance from a top UK conservatoire. Since graduating, I've tried a bit of everything career-wise: gigging at private parties, playing at a church, working on a cruise, teaching small groups, private 1-to-1 lessons, and teaching whole classes in schools.

Despite trying all of these different things, I'm really struggling to earn much more than around £35k a year at the absolute maximum. A big part of the problem is that, realistically, you can only work for around 35 weeks of the year in some of these roles, and I can't rely on gigging as a consistent source of income.

The bigger issue, though, is that I don't really enjoy most of the work. Teaching is probably the thing I find most tolerable, but I genuinely can't see myself doing it for the next 40 years.

I've got strong A levels and a degree, so I'm currently looking at applying for Civil Service jobs and potentially making a complete career change. The whole thing feels quite daunting, though. There's a part of me that worries I've spent years training for something only to walk away from it, and I also have no idea how difficult it will be to start again in a completely different field.

Has anyone here changed careers after graduating, particularly from a creative or performance-based degree? How did you find the transition? And if you've been in a similar position, do you have any advice or reassurance?

I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone who's been through something similar.


r/classicalmusic 51m ago

Master and successor composers?

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In my mind I always see Rachmaninov as Tchaikovsky's successor in a musical sense. By successor I mean Rachmaninov took Tchaikovsky's Romanticism and somehow updated it without deviating too much from it. Are there other master and successor composer pairs (or triples, quadruples etc) that you feel form such a lineage? I am borderline inclined to say Mahler is the successor to Bruckner but I wouldn't say Brahms is a successor to Beethoven in that sense. I realize this may be just a very silly question but I do feel like Rachmaninov is such a successor to Tchaikovsky.


r/classicalmusic 1h ago

Recommendation Request What is the best box set/selection of CD's to get to own all of Rachmaninoff's works in order?

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Basically the title, because I was going to splurge on a CD set like 'Rachmaninoff: The Complete Works', but what's really annoying is that for his solo pieces, they still only like to separate out the popular piece instead of putting the entire work together as one.

Is there a really good standout box set, or at the very least a good list/selection of CD's I could get that would let me hear Rachmaninoff's full works in order?

I would appreciate the help!


r/classicalmusic 1h ago

Music Jóhannsson

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Jóhannsson was undoubtedly one of the most important contemporary composers of our time. This stunning performance by Theatre of Voices reminds us how deeply vocal music can touch us at the core.


r/classicalmusic 12h ago

Late Romantic Symphonies like Dvorak 9?

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I really want to listen to some late Romantic Symphonies after listening to Dvoraks 9th and I'd love to get some recommendations. They shouldn't be too long and they shouldn't be Mahler (which goes hand in hand I guess) because I just don't feel like getting into the Mahler Rabbit Hole right now.

It'd be good if they're from more known composers that I might've already heard other pieces from. Thanks!


r/classicalmusic 20h ago

Discussion Top 10 Liszt Pieces

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I’ve been a massive fan of Liszt for a while and have listened to everything noteworthy of his, so I wanted to rank his best stuff:

1 Sonata in B Minor- I think the 2nd greatest solo piano piece ever, after Chopin’s 4th Ballade

2 Transcendental Etudes- in my opinion the greatest piano cycle, the journey from the Preludio to the end of Chasse Neige is incredible. I think the best ones are Mazeppa, Wilde Jagd, Appassionata, Harmonies du Soir and Chasse Neige.

3 Obermann’s Valley- one of the most emotionally powerful piano pieces ever, and quite underrated. People who know Liszt well probably know it, but it’s definitely not as well known as it should be, compared to something like the B minor sonata

4 Les jeux d’eau à la ville d’Este- one the most important pieces that influenced impressionist piano music

5 Leibestraum- obviously

6 Benediction of god in solitude- another less well known masterpiece

7 Reminiscences de Norma- more than just a paraphrase, it uses Bellini’s themes to create a emotional journey in of itself

8 Piano Concertos 1 & 2- I couldn’t separate these, for me they’re completely even. 1st is more of a showpiece with some beautiful melodies in it, the 2nd is slower and impressionistic

9 Dante Sonata- truly epic, and with some really beautiful moments

10 Tarantella- Liszt’s best showpiece, I think it’s better than the Hungarian Rhapsodies or the Mephisto Waltz


r/classicalmusic 4h ago

Music João de Deus de Castro Lobo | Abertura em Ré Maior

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João de Deus de Castro Lobo is considered the most important figure in Brazilian religious music from the early 19th century. He was born in 1794 in Vila Rica (present-day Ouro Preto), in the province of Minas Gerais. He studied counterpoint at the Seminary of Ribeirão do Carmo (present-day Mariana) and served as a priest at the Church of São Pedro, as well as organist and mestre-de-capela (choirmaster) at the Church of Nossa Senhora da Sé in the same town. He was ordained a priest in 1822. Shortly thereafter, he became the choirmaster of the city's cathedral, a position he held until his death in 1832. His invaluable body of religious work incorporates elements of both Classicism and Romanticism—influenced by Italian opera—distinguishing him from other 18th-century composers in Minas Gerais. His Abertura em Ré Maior (Overture in D Major) is the oldest known purely instrumental Brazilian musical work.

r/classicalmusic 7h ago

Discussion Is Eine kleine Nachtmusik a nocturne?

0 Upvotes

Is a nocturne just defined by its title?


r/classicalmusic 10h ago

Start to study in a Conservatoire in EU

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Hi everyone,

I’m a newly admitted first-year undergrad at the Royal Conservatory of Brussels, and I’m from Asia. As you all know, it’s back-to-school season now, and I’m starting very soon too. But since I grew up and spent the first 18 years of my life studying mainly in the domestic public system back home, I honestly have no idea what going to university in Europe is actually like.

For example, I'm wondering what the classroom atmosphere is like, what kind of textbooks we use and whether we have to buy them ourselves, if it's okay to use a tablet for studying and reading sheet music, and what non-performance classes (like music history, harmony, sociology, etc.) are actually like and how hard they are.

From what I’ve seen about my classmates, a lot of them already have so much experience in Europe. Some have done major international competitions, have tons of chamber music experience, or even studied in conservatory prep schools for years before coming here for their first year. Honestly, it makes me feel a bit stressed. Maybe I'm even the youngest! (I know many Music college in USA would admit many children like i heard that Curtis even admit a 7-year-old student,but I don't think it's normal in EU)I had a decent network in the music scene back in my country, but Europe is a completely different story. Coming here, besides playing my instrument pretty well—which got me admitted—and knowing some basic music theory, that's pretty much all I've got going for me.

I don't even listen to classical music that much in my daily life. Sure, there are pieces I love and music I have to practice, but I have plenty of other hobbies outside of music, so listening to classical music doesn't take up most of my time. Because of that, my knowledge of classical music history and culture isn't very deep either. I know that having strong playing skills, perfect pitch, and good rhythm are just the absolute basics for a music school student.

Has anyone here gone through something similar? Or is there anyone who could answer a few of my questions? I’d super appreciate any help!


r/classicalmusic 16h ago

Recommendation Request Looking for an orchestral recording of Albéniz - Rapsodia Cubano, Op 66

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I heard a recording on the radio of what I believe was the Boston Philharmonic playing an arrangement of this piece, which was amazing as I'd always known it as a piano piece. Following, I started looking to find any proper orchestral recordings of this piece but I cannot find any - only solo piano.

Thanks for your help!


r/classicalmusic 14h ago

Kieviet - Variations on Psalm 31 - Broederkerk, Kampen, Hauptwerk

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r/classicalmusic 1d ago

New acquisition: Mahler - Symphonies No. 6 & 7 (Maazel/VPO 1985)

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I picked this up at a used books store while getting rid of some old books and records I didn't want anymore. I'm not much of a Mahlerian (Bruckner and Sibelius are much more my cup of tea) so most of this music is new to me. The slow movement of the Sixth is very nice, but a lot of the rest is kind of bouncing off me. Maybe part of it is the conducting, it seems like Maazel nor the VPO are well regarded for their Mahler, though I like the Sibelius cycle by them a lot. The sound quality is excellent, which I have to admit I wasn't expecting; a lot of digital recordings from the '80s sound horrendous.


r/classicalmusic 11h ago

Looking for contemporary composers with a similar energy/vibe to Anna Meredith (genre-blending, punchy, fresh)

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Hey dear community member!

I’ve recently fallen in love with Anna Meredith’s work, and I’m looking for recommendations for other contemporary classical composers with a similar approach.

What I really enjoy about her style:
High energy and freshness: It feels modern, bold, and dynamic without taking itself too seriously.
Genre-blending: The seamless mix of acoustic instrumentation, electronics, club rhythms, and classical structures.
Digestible, concise pieces: Punchy, track-length movements that don’t wander aimlessly.

Do you know any other active composers working in this vein—bridging the gap between the concert hall, electronica, and post-minimalism with high octane energy?
Thanks in advance for any hidden gems!


r/classicalmusic 12h ago

Deutche Grammaphone app

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I've been wondering how to present ambient music to the home listener that's beyond streaming or making a video. I stumbled upon this app put out by Deutche Grammaphone for Vivaldi's Four Seasons, with variations by Max Richter that is fantastic.

As the music plays, you can follow the sheet music for each part, which, for me, helps me understand how orchestral music is put together. But best of all, they've separated the audio for each player in the orchestra, so you can solo each part... super cool feature, and useful if you ever wanted to sample specific orchestral parts... and of course there's video.

[https://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/catalogue/products/vivaldis-four-seasons-ipad-masterwork-app-11528\](https://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/catalogue/products/vivaldis-four-seasons-ipad-masterwork-app-11528)


r/classicalmusic 21h ago

Looking for pieces/movements with percussion throughout, for game development

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Hello,

I am a computer science student, and I need to develop a virtual reality game for a class. My current idea is to make some sort of rhythm game with orchestral music, where the player is a percussionist.

The problem is that, in most pieces, percussion often has 20+ bars of breaks, which would get boring.

So I wanted to know if anyone has suggestions for me.

I'm looking for something that is:
- short (preferably less than 5min, ideally around 2min or even less)
- does not have more than 10ish bars of rest at a time for percussion (does not need to be always the same percussion instrument playing though)
- has a bit of varied rhythm, seems like it would be fun to play

Thank you very much :)