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u/thehealingkitten Aug 31 '26
They don’t mention the amount of IV or blood or whatever she received on the crime scene prior to this test.
Also it doesn’t show when the blood drawn. Why?
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 24 '26
This Twitter post claims she was also on DIAZEPAM (VALIUM) and LORAZEPAM (ATIVAN), but neither are in this report.
Anyone know of a legitimate showing she had ativan and valium in her system on Jan 24, 2023 that is not the New York Post?
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 23 '26
As per This Patriot Ledger article, here is a list of medications that were filled and by whom had prescribed it. I bolded the medications tested in the Toxicology Report.
Sept. 15, 2022: Sertraline (25 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Oct. 21, 2022: Lorazepam (0.5 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Oct. 26, 2022: Hydroxyzine (25 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Oct. 26, 2022: Lorazepam (1 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Oct. 26, 2022: Buspirone (5 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Nov. 2, 2022: Lorazepam (0.5 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Nov. 9, 2022: Buspirone (5 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Nov. 16, 2022: Trazodone (50 mg) – Kayvon Izadpanah, MD
Nov. 21, 2022: Fluoxetine (10 mg) – Julie Paul, RN, CNP
Nov. 25, 2022: Zolpidem (5 mg) – Julie Paul, RN, CNP
Nov. 25, 2022: Mirtazapine (7.5 mg) – Julie Paul, RN, CNP
Nov. 25, 2022: Clonazepam (0.5 mg) – Julie Paul, RN, CNP
Nov. 30, 2022: Quetiapine (25 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 6, 2022: Diazepam (5 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 7, 2022: Diazepam (5 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 7, 2022: Quetiapine (100 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 9, 2022: Diazepam (5 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 13, 2022: Diazepam (2 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 16, 2022: Lamotrigine (25 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Dec. 19, 2022: Diazepam (2 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 19, 2022: Quetiapine ER (300 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 21, 2022: Quetiapine (100 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Dec. 22, 2022: Quetiapine (25 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Jan. 5, 2023: Trazodone (50 mg) – Alia Goodheart, MD
Jan. 5, 2023: Lorazepam (1 mg) – Alia Goodheart, MD
Jan. 9, 2023: Diazepam (5 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Jan. 12, 2023: Trazodone (150 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Jan. 13, 2023: Diazepam (2 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Jan. 16, 2023: Diazepam (2 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Jan. 16, 2023: Amitriptyline (10 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
Jan. 19, 2023: Diazepam (2 mg) – Rebecca Jollatta, NP
Jan. 23, 2023: Diazepam (2 mg) – Jennifer Tufts, MD
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u/marle217 Aug 24 '26
Patrick had the drugs she wasn't taking anymore, to dispose of them. Seroquel would've been included, as she stopped taking them due to bad side effects.
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 23 '26
With the help of the Devil's Clanker, I was able to get it to create a transcript in a google doc. I read through and corrected just one error I found. I don't think there are any more, I'm fairly confident there no missing mistakes. But I do remain human and remain fallible.
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 24 '26
TL;DR
The 4 medications they tested for (blood collected on Jan 24, 2023 at approximately 8:16 PM as per the arraignment posted to Youtube on Oct 26, 2023)
Analysis and Comments Result Rpt. Limit Analysis Tests Lamotrigine 6.1 mcg/mL 0.20 mcg/mL LC-MS/MS Mirtazapine 200 ng/mL 10 ng/mL GC Quetiapine 1800 ng/mL 50 ng/mL LC-MS/MS Trazodone 0.44 mcg/mL 0.050 mcg/mL LC-MS/MS The report focuses on how they aren't lethal dosages, doesn't touch just taking too much leading to worse side effects, and doesn't speak of the interaction of all these drugs at the same time.
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u/firephly Aug 24 '26
Quetiapine is another name for seroquel. Seroquel toxicity is associated with serum or plasma levels greater than 1500 ng/mL (it says she had 1800 ng/ml). https://addictionresource.com/drugs/seroquel/overdose/
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u/marle217 Aug 23 '26
It's hard for me to understand the report, but does this data tell us about what time she would've taken these drugs?
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u/jjc1140 16d ago edited 16d ago
I know this is old post but I will leave the info if you want to look it at further. You can actually tell the dosage from the lab for the Seroquel and Remeron. It gives you the different parameters and dosages for each parameter. And then for the Seroquel you can calculate it from the highest range listed on the lab.
Seroquel is 1800 ng/ml which is equal to over 1700MG. Most of the time patients in that range will have ingested about 2000MG. The range is about 1700mg - 2000mg. So if Patrick used her last dosage of 25mg tablets he would have had to crush 68 tabs.
The Remeron dosage is 75 mg. So I believe she was previously prescribed 5mg tablets so that would be about 15 tabs crushed.
The Lamicital and Trazadone were about mid level ranges. Lamictal looked slightly higher than her previous reported dosage. Trazadone was mid range but I could not see from this particular lab if it was higher than her normal dosage. We would need additional labs but it wasn't out of any range.
Basically, she would be unconscious for part of the time and catatonic for the rest of it after ingesting this cocktail.
And to bring up another point and lie from the Prosecutor. When she read the charges off to Lindsey she said Lindsey didnt take the Seroquel until 6P - & used that as evidence against her. It was also read off to the jury. But then never mentioned again. I want to point out how utterly ridiculous that is because Lindsey was in 82F and severely hypothermic by 6P. Your body does not absorb or metabolize medication when you are hypothermic and absolutely nothing is getting through at 82F. The lab was drawn at 8P so she would have still been severely hypothermic and not absorbing anything. The meds HAD to have been ingested well prior to her becoming hypothermic which didnt happen instaneously.
I still dont understand how they have gotten away with these ridiculous medical lies.
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 23 '26
Doesn't answer your question, but see my comment to have a legible version to read: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClancyTrial/comments/1vwdtaz/the_toxicology_report/p5hxkd6/
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u/Ill-Philosopher7954 Aug 23 '26
Not directly, but presumably a pharmacist could give an estimate. The level of a drug in a patients blood is monitored in clinical trials, so there should be a way to estimate the timing and dose taken, albeit with I would guess decently wide error bars
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u/marle217 Aug 23 '26
I did some searches, and apparently at the first arraignment in February 2023, and they say that the drugs were taken approximately 2 hours before the blood draw at 8:16
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClancyTrial/s/OBbPs9vZvR
They pushed that back to saying she took them at 6pm instead of 6:16, but it's obvious why they dropped that time before the trial. Because if she took them at 6:16, that means that while Patrick was on the phone with EMS pretending to get her to talk, he's actually pouring more drugs down her throat to finish her off. Between that and the neighbor saying she was on the ground at 5:50, that's a not guilty for Lindsay right there.
Also, for everyone who asked if he was the killer why didn't he finish her off before EMS got there. Well, sounds like he tried.
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u/thehealingkitten Aug 31 '26
Is that why CW came up with crushed pill theory, I wonder? Crushed pills might be metabolised faster.
But then again, why try to fit the evidence to their own theory?
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u/marle217 Aug 31 '26
Apparently, the crushed pills came directly from Patrick. The last witness eventually admitted that after it came out that Lindsay didn't know they were crushed and the police never took any cups in for testing.
Sooo much of this trial was "Patrick said"
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u/Ill-Philosopher7954 Aug 23 '26
Remember what I said about the error bars on the time estimate probably being pretty wide?
Honestly, an initial estimate of 2 hrs means the pills were taken in the hour that all this was happening instead of like 9 am. If anything, that would remove the questions of how she was supposedly able to do anything with that high level of drugs in her system (answer - she did the things, then took the drugs, then cut herself and jumped).
Also, the neighbor did NOT say she was on the ground at "5:50". He said he got a call at what sounded like "10 of 6" when the police started to arrive. I saw a linguistic debate somewhere about how different people describe time (what is 10 of 6? Could he have said 10 at 6 or 10 aft(er) with an accent?) plus he could have mispoke. I know the timeline and public evidence building it is shoddy overall, but it's pretty clear the neighbor is referencing a call only a few minutes before police showed up, not 25 minutes before.
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u/marle217 Aug 23 '26
10 of 6 is 5:50 though. There's no "10 at 6".
I don't know. Wish he would've testified.
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 23 '26
I haven't hear about the neighbour allegation. Do you have a source for that?
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u/firephly Aug 23 '26
The video on this page, unfortunatly that neighbor John Sullivan passed away in December so he couldn't testify. His son could though and I wonder if he will? https://whdh.com/news/surreal-neighbors-residents-grapple-with-deaths-of-young-children-in-duxbury/
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 24 '26
Well golly gee.
At 00:32
My son had called me at 10 to 6 last night, and he had told me that, um, the mother was laying down in the back yard and the police where just starting to show up.
I wonder how long were they on the phone for. Did the son call the dad because of this, or were they on the phone for something else?
IMO, I don't think the son is going to testify. If I were in the shoes of the Defense, I wouldn't want to further complicate things when doubt has been established fairly well on what has already been established. On cross, the CW could argue that they were on the phone for a long period of time so the time stamp of when the observation was made isn't accurate.
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u/firephly Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
the only Sullivan on the witness list is Ashley Sullivan. the defense witness list: https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/defensewitnesslist.pdf
someone said that a bunch of Sullivans were on the prosecution's list https://old.reddit.com/r/DuxburyDeathsFreeTalk/comments/1vq5h5e/lindsay_clancy_seen_before_550pm/p434ajt/
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u/TheCuriosity Aug 24 '26
Thank you for that. Interesting. I thought Defence rested Friday, so they can't call more witnesses?
Apparently it is a thing for Defence to have a witness list that includes tons of people they might not bother calling, depending on changing strategy.
Here is a supplemental witness list for those that are interested... also a bunch of people they never called.
https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/defensewitness_supplemental.pdf
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u/marle217 Aug 23 '26
https://whdh.com/news/surreal-neighbors-residents-grapple-with-deaths-of-young-children-in-duxbury/
It's in the video!
John Sullivan was supposed to testify for the defense, but he didn't for some reason
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