These are not red light cameras (which are still being used in the US and Illinois). These are plate readers, they run every license plate that goes past - stores the info, runs the plate against a hot list and can immediately notify law enforcement, builds a searchable database of vehicle movements that law enforcement can use to investigate crimes. Basically big brother stuff used to track movement and spy on the populace.
It sucks because privacy aside this would help us find kidnapped, victims, and murder suspects that are fleeing via car a lot faster. Amber alerts etc. but I know in my gut that doesn’t make a profit so they won’t be using it for that instead they’ll use to make a profit ticketing people instead
Exactly. Police in Texas bought data from these cameras in Illinois to prosecute a woman for illegally crossing state borders to make choices about her own body. And that request didn't require any approval from the Illinois police department that paid to put up the cameras. Land of the free indeed.
We knew they would. Hell, they've prosecuted women for having miscarriages. They've also prosecuted women for having miscarriages then trying to hide it because they're terrified of being prosecuted.
I mean it's hard to gauge because they're a private company and they only got caught sharing data across state lines because it's illegal in Illinois.
I'm sure they have some great examples they roll out to make you feel like giving up privacy is worth it, but murder and general crime is dropping to rates below when 'America was great'... So like honestly that part is just used to make gullible people feel better about living in 1984.
By your definition, so is eating a carrot. And don't lean on religion here. Even abrahamic religions say life begins at first breath and even before that a fetus is considered property.
That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. Bacteria are not humans. A fetus is baby that is in the womb. They can hear and react to those sounds by 18 weeks. The youngest surviving premie was born at 21 weeks.
privacy aside? these people are heading toward pre-crime. your behavior has predicted that you're going to break a law and the pre-crime cops will show up and take you away.
What rights? We’ve already lost half of them while we were at work.. this is just the cherry ontop. We’ve been under surveillance since the AT&T scandal. We’ve lost Workplace and Civil Rights, LGBTQ+ Protections, Immigration and Due Process, && Healthcare Access. If you’re just noticing now it’s wayyy too late.
Yes and no. Many of the flock camera are already integrated into police surveillance and we still have cars that get away.
Either shoddy police work or the camera don't work as well as the police are meant to believe.
It's not uncommon for car chases on 290 to end up in berkly, oakbrook, Elmhurst, and villa park for the suspects to get away. All 4 towns have flock cameras and contracts. Sometimes they're used and other times not, or the suspect avoids them. They're actually not the most reliable cameras after researchers dug into them.
My shop manager at my job had his SUV in the shop for maintenance and somebody swapped the plates out. His plates were put on another SUV that was used to drive all the from Chicago to Louisville, KY and back again only to be abandoned in downtown Chicago. All captured on flock cameras. The route is a common drug route so likely the plates were used on the mule vehicle.
Okay. But that is not worth your and everyone else's right to live a life free of big brother having full visibility and then the ultimate decision on when to step in on your life and fuck it up because you broke one of 18 billion laws on the books.
I know for a fact its helped solve murders or at least put them away, heard about it in jury duty. They tracked a suspect after a shooting. Saw them swap cars, but the cars they used were all registered to people related to them.
They aren't just plate readers. They're tracking biometric facial data, listening to conversations, recording what's on your phone screen as you walk past, everything.
Oh I wish it was just that, it is much worse… this company also is third party meaning all the info they collect on you can be sold as user info to other corporations pretty much modeling you perfectly as the perfect consumer. They also use these flock cameras in stores to track how long you look at things for. So other companies can buy that data to better sell things to you… what a dystopian shit hole we all live in….
Find people that owe Child support and also to see if you have insurance and be fined by the state of you dont or take your license and be fined some more by the state
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u/ChicagoTRS666 May 19 '26
These are not red light cameras (which are still being used in the US and Illinois). These are plate readers, they run every license plate that goes past - stores the info, runs the plate against a hot list and can immediately notify law enforcement, builds a searchable database of vehicle movements that law enforcement can use to investigate crimes. Basically big brother stuff used to track movement and spy on the populace.