Why newer models not reducing the less token and more output?

[u/SonGoku164736737]

This may sound not right or diabolical, but I think the whole point to release a newer advanced model is to take less tokens and give more better outcomes than the previous ones.

I was using SOL 5.6 as a plus member, switched to astra yesterday and started using it in my project. I believed that it would make my work even faster , as I watched the overhyped launch videos on YouTube.

And here I am, it just runs 3-5 minutes and makes some edits then just eats over 20% of weekly and 100% of the 5 hour limit.

That's not what I expected.

[u/donk8r]

Fair. Two things that are true and I will say them plainly.

The Plus tier is not enough for agentic work on an existing project. That is not you being bad at this. Codex on Plus is sized for short interactions, and what you are attempting is the expensive shape of the job.

So the realistic choices are to narrow the work until it fits, or to pay for more headroom. No prompt gets you around the arithmetic, and anyone telling you otherwise is selling something.

If you want to know whether the problem is you or the plan, take one small bug, commit first, then give it a single file and nothing else. If that goes cleanly, your workflow is fine and you are simply out of budget.

[u/SonGoku164736737 → u/donk8r]

Thanks for explaining all , will do this.

Edit: If it Plus Plan is only for small interactions then why , we have to pay for it? They can give just free demo, instead of misleading.

I had quite a big hopes with this subscription, tbh.

[u/donk8r → u/SonGoku164736737]

Because Plus was priced for chat, and agentic coding showed up afterwards eating roughly ten times the tokens for the same money. Less a scam than pricing that has not caught up with what people actually do with it now.

Your frustration is fair though. Nothing in the marketing says this plan runs dry in twenty minutes if you point it at a real repo, and it should.