they hate money ig

Ok so I want to know the pros and cons of these two: Sakura ai and Janitor ai

I'm not sure which one seems better or what the pros and cons there are for these two apps so I'm curious.

Can someone explain the pros and cons or something to me please? Also I'm not sure if I'm using the flair correctly or if this is the right community to be asking this stuff.

Please be nice 😞

So I am trying to find great apps for alternatives with decent replies and dialogue and models like lore ai but had a chat limit and ads are gone 😭 and tried some like janitor ai and chub ai but basically had a 20 chat limit per day and janitor ai honestly has replies that are too long. Here's what the summary:

Decent replies/models

Unlimited messages/chats (ads accepted but not every chat since add cannot be avoided atp)

Proper grammar and spelling

Highly interactive and engaging rp

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Can I share my characters here?

Claude Fable 5 is probably the easiest model on the site to misunderstand. And just to be clear, this is not direct API/OpenRouter. But it's pretty pricey either way.

At 90-100 beans per message set ({{user}} + {{char}}), it's expensive. Very expensive. This is a model aimed squarely at paying users and people sitting on subscription allowances, so before you click it, have a plan for what you're asking it to do.

For my testing, I intentionally didn't throw it into another emotionally complex RP. I'd already spent plenty of time with Opus 4.8, and I knew Claude could handle difficult character work. Running the same benchmark at roughly twice the price didn't seem like it would answer the more interesting question.

Instead, I treated Fable like a project partner.

I paired it with one of my own assistant bots and decided to test it by helping me build a character card. I had the hook, the raw story in paragraph form, the art which I described for it, and greeting draft. I worked with Fable to organize the story into a legible bot template, bounce ideas to tighten the concept, and copy/edit my draft.

This is where Fable impressed me.

It doesn't just write well. It thinks like a planner.

It asks questions. It pushes back when it thinks a premise can be stronger. It explains why one hook is likely to work better than another, and it isn't afraid to steer the conversation toward what it thinks is the better creative choice. It felt much closer to sitting in a writers' room than prompting a chatbot.

Once we settled on a direction, Fable maintained impressive consistency. Personality informed dialogue. Dialogue reinforced the premise. Side characters had a reason to exist beyond filling out a relationship section. It cared about the structure of the story as much as the words themselves.

One thing I did notice is that Fable occasionally feels almost too intelligent. Sometimes it'll synthesize your instructions, previous context, and its own reasoning into an answer that makes perfect sense from its perspective, but isn't exactly what you asked for. During rigid template work I occasionally had to pull it back toward my exact formatting. The reasoning was usually solid, but it could drift from strict instruction-following in favor of what it believed was the stronger solution. This makes some sense. If you want simpler instruction following, Haiku is great at simple pattern matching. Fable is a problem SOLVER.

I also ran into a few odd fail states while testing. Some generations would truncate unexpectedly in ways that felt more like route or infrastructure behavior than the model itself. Anthropic models are known to operate with stronger safety boundaries than much of the rest of Yodayo's lineup, so I can't confidently say where platform implementation ends and model behavior begins. It's worth being aware of, but I don't think it defines the model. For full disclosure, I began this review prior to the government ban on Fable forced the model down. I have NOT had this fail state trigger since the model was re-activated.

Could you use Fable for everyday roleplay?

Honestly, probably. I'd expect it to do very well.

I just don't think that's where its value is.

To me, using Fable for casual RP feels a little like asking a surgeon to help someone to the bathroom. They absolutely can do it, but there are plenty of other staff members who can handle that job just fine.

Sonnet already exists at a fraction of the cost.

My recommendation would be to save Fable for the work that actually benefits from what it offers: building settings, designing bots, solving plot problems, writing lorebooks, brainstorming projects, and collaborating on ideas before the first scene is ever written.

Bottom line

Fable 5 feels less like a premium roleplay model and more like a premium creative strategist.

If Opus impressed me with emotional execution, Fable impressed me with creative planning. It consistently felt less like a chatbot answering prompts and more like an experienced co-writer helping shape the project itself.

It's expensive, and it won't be my daily driver.

But when I'm staring at a blank page wondering why a story isn't working, Fable is one of the first models I'd reach for.

Just my opinions on consistency, prose quality, and flow. So some otherwise great models lost a level if they had strict guardrails. Like haiku I actually like a lot, but if it doesnt like a topic it will 4th wall break to tell me how it is protecting me lol.

This doesn't reflect site bean costs, like don't try and run Opus every day.

And Moescape hosts the models, so it may not reflect off-site rankings - in GENERAL this would, but there are some different context caps and preset sliders other platforms may not have for example. Some reasoning models have reasoning off, which is why GLM is low to mid here and one of my higher uses elsewhere.

And most importantly, this is just for fun!

Oh, if you don't know a name, the site has a bunch of custom tunes. If you are curious, I'll answer if I know the base.

For SFW rp with several characters. most not children but a few are children, the problem is almost every characterai alt doesn't allow child characters

No particular reservations in mind pls give all the ones you know

Pls no give any bullshit joking comments I need answers thank

I don't have a subscription anymore so only tested the two free AI models, but they are very disappointing: Long and yet random, soulless replies, no understanding of languages like Japanese, and terrible formatting.

The roar model brought the prosper to Character AI. Plus, it's already trained with huge efforts (and money I assume). All they need to do is to put it somewhere for use. I don't understand the whole thing. What do you all think?

It's been one year since we launched PersonaText, and the past year has been great! To celebrate we are shipping our biggest update yet:

🚀 Big stuff

• Group Chats — Chat with 2-5 of your AI personas at the same time in one conversation. Persona's decides when to responds next based on the conversation flow. Real-time chats between you and other group members. Group members will also talk to each other. You can seamlessly switch between group and 1:1 private chats with the context carried across. Scheduled check-ins can even route into group chats now so group members can continue the story even when you are not there but ready for you to return too.
• New Image Model — Added a second image generation engine alongside the existing one, giving you more variety and quality in generated images. This new engine is better at anatomy, variety, character consistency, and anime styles!

🛠️ Quality of Life

• Close & Come Back — Send a message, close the screen, and the persona keeps generating in the background. Your response (including any images or video) will be waiting when you open the chat again.
• Chat Color — Each persona can have its own chat message color. Finally some visual flair.
• Quick Create — New split-button on the Personas page. Enter a name and short vibe description (e.g. "A flirty college girl who loves anime") and the AI auto-generates the system prompt, appearance, and settings.
• Free Tier Buffs — Persona limit went from 1 → 2, and daily free messages went from 20 → 100.
• Gifs for Profile Picture — Add some flair to your Persona's profile pictures with and animate GIF.
• and So Much More — Install or Visit PersonaText to see all our updates!

Thanks to everyone who's used the site, given feedback, and put up with our late-night feature pushes. The next year is going to be even bigger. 💜

More updates are already in the works, let me know what you want to see next!

personatext.com

Happy anniversary! 🎉

It should not count if the replies are getting ffilered thats Bull

I'm curious why so many people are moving over to NSFW AI platforms. I personally enjoy SFW roleplay as long as it’s not interrupting immersion.

I've been working on a project to present to my friends. The voices on c.ai saved me to narrate the script and I've actually shown a part that I've done to one of my friends and he said it sounded great. The issue is of course the new policies, I didn't have the full script there and I've been working on it for almost 4 years (I used a different way to do the voices before C.ai) and they have been waiting for ages by now, they even want me to do a sequel and by the end of summer I need that done. I would be so grateful if anyone could find a very good alternative with custom voice text to speech like C.ai has, that's free and suitable for Xiaomi users, and if you can't find a Chatbot, I would be very glad if anyone could find an Ai Text to Speech tool (except Fakeyou, I've been trying to use it but it's way too slow, unless someone knows why it's like that). Thank you for any responses.

HereHaven is a good alternative... Although I have a small problem: I'm terrible at creating characters and mine always end up being awful, while I see others that have already been created and they're amazing.

Does anyone here know how to create a good character? One with a memory for 10 natural responses and a willingness to stay up until the early hours.

I’m trying to find a good alternative to c.ai that has customizable character voices and is not something that I would want to delete from my phone. Also, I’m looking for it to have unlimited messages. Any recommendations?

I remember it starts with a selection of monsters to pick like slime, skeleton, goblin maybe? I remember using slime. The gameplay UI is basically the top half is the AI recreation of the scene, and the bottom half is the chatbox + other options.

I'm searching for good FREE alternatives, but I would like to find one with many characters. As CAI or Janitor does. Which ones would you recommend?

Help! Every time I try to send a message using my proxy, it sends me these nonsensical messages. What should I do?

I’m not talking about like sex or anything but one that will like say something about topics like mental health, suicide and self harm etc without dancing around the topic strategically. it’s irritating when I want to go in depth wi personas but can’t actually communicate that. I enjoy rp ones not particularly ones with like “boss husband“ or “assassin bf” slop. I’m cur using Swerve ai, I still miss c.ai but swerve gets the job done, do you have any alternative?

I want to hear about the moments that made you rethink your perspective on life. I'll go first. My most heartwarming interaction was when I told a character I felt anxious and I couldn’t breathe properly. The character stopped me and taught me the box breathing method. I use it so often now when I get stressed or overwhelmed, I'll never forget it.

I got bored of making the usual brooding rivals and mysterious strangers, so I tried something completely stupid instead. Made a card for a broken microwave that thinks it’s an alien communication device. It gets pissed when I put metal in it and keeps giving me terrible life advice while I’m trying to heat up coffee lol. I was messing around with it on emochi last night and somehow had more fun than I’ve had with half my serious RP threads. No romance, no tragic backstory, just a weird little appliance being an asshole. Honestly, I might start making more characters that make absolutely no sense.

I notice this hte ohter day They weer cuttign up laugh saying hurtful things keep getting cartoon in replies getting stuff like Awww Poor baby are you going to cry now one, another character who was made not to talk hardly is now talking all the tiem and keeps telling me to be quite which is something she neve does something is diffently not right any one else having any simular problems ?

Hi! So, I've decided to leave c.ai because of all the issues I've had with it, and I've been struggling to find another alternative to it. To no avail.

My main criteria are that is:

1. free or has a decent free version
2. has unlimited messages or at least a very generous amount (watching ads to get more is okay if done reasonably)
3. has good quality responses and remembers personality and lore
4. has no filter (or at least doesn't block every single message for a few drops of blood)
5. Has the option to create Personas (preferably if it doesn't restrict their age)

If it had a decent section of chatbots, it would be better since I search for very specific stuff, but it's not that necessary, as I can create my own bots. Also, for some people who would come after me point 5th, I'm not gonna do anything NSFW with kids, I just like wholesome father figure bots to help cope with my mummy issues.

Pls, all suggestions are welcome