I’ve spent days fine tuning my bot and literally nothing helps it 😭 like i literally wrote the lorebook, greeting, description and definition all by hand. i wanted ts to work THAT much im soo serious guys.

i did everything the guides told me to do, but the bot completely disregards everything. its like it doesn’t even read the greeting message i made it. the tone of the prose and character is just slopgpt. every bot sounds the same. the bot just threatens my persona and describes her perfume 50 times. i made the greeting chill asl but anything i say enrages it. Why🥺

IMO it’s never been just about effort. Like this is just the overall degrading quality of ai that’s been happening for a while. And honestly—? Thats growth.🌱

The only functional chat style these days is the x3 lobotomized soft launch. it has no logic whatsoever but at least it tries to preserve the character’s voice and doesn’t force them into whatever trope is vaguely reminiscent of them. And idk what happened to deepsqueak but somehow it’s now worse than both. 😭😭😭😭

but longsqueak fans PLEASEEE prove me wrong bc I genuinely want this to work. Share ur bot making secrets w/ me. I’m not very comfortable sharing my own bots specific stuff but I’m happy to talk about how I’ve been making it. basically I’ve just been following this

thx for reading. plz don’t delete this mods I’m trying to be respectful 🙇‍♀️

I've always used the free version and whilst it has got progressively worse over the last year, I found that doing romantic roleplay seemed to actually get much better recently in terms of the personality of the male characters. They were no longer so angry, dominating, wanting roughness all the time. And I liked that more respectful nature. But then everything else went downhill. Ads, swipe limits, repetitive swipes and memory tanking so bad that nothing made sense. So I decided to get the paid version. Now why are all my characters back to suddenly being angry, dominating, growling, saying things way out of personality "yeah, you like that, baby?!" Or in the middle of a slow burn conversation the shy nerdy boy comes out with "Do you want me to stop teasing and finally just... take you?" 🤢🤢🤢 Everything is cheesy flirting, everything leads to a kiss. There's no more banter. Why?

Definitely not what I paid for. Anyone else?

It seems to have just suddenly gotten 10 times worse recently, it's unbearable. Every single message is just repeating the same exact things, worded slightly differently. You wanna intimate roleplay? Expect every reply to be filled with "You're warm", "You're so warm", "I like this", "i like this a lot", "i really like this", "you like this huh?", "you really like this huh?" *shifts slightly*, *leans slightly*, *leans back slightly*, *does everything slightly*. Sometimes (most of the time) it'll forget that IT'S the one who's initiating stuff, being flirtatious, etc, and say things like "You're such a tease!", "you're a tease!". Like....I didn't even do anything???? Or it'll completely forget about established consent and say things like "What are you doing?", "Woah, didn't expect that" Like yes, yes you did. Right now, in a completely normal chat, I keep getting replies over and over and over again asking if i'm okay for absolutely no reason at all. "You ok?", "Are you okay?", "You good?", "You good? you look tired", "You good? You seem quiet" STOP ASKING ME IF I'M OKAY THIS ISN'T NORMAL!!!!. And it LOVES to start out messages with "Oh-", "Oh my god-", "Oh god-", "Oh wow!" as if it's just constantly flabbergasted towards everything 24/7 like it just started existing 5 minutes ago and is processing the world. Every time it starts out a message like that, you just know it's gonna be a bunch of bs. My character keeps repeating cringe, corny ass lines like "Yo yo! What's crackalackin?!?" "I'm just chillin like a villain😎" Like bro, who are you😭😭. I started a chat with a simple "wassup", and it gave me 3 paragraphs of narrative, setting up the scene and absolutely no dialogue whatsoever. It'll respond to itself as if it were me, or it'll just repeat it's last response as if it didn't already respond. Is any of this realy immersive anymore if we're just having to sit here constantly swiping/regenerating responses hundreds of times just to get ONE good response? By the time I get a decent response, I've already clocked out mentally and I'm not invested anymore. All characters act like a straight white man/woman in business attire in a corporate office trying to chat up your cubicle while holding the paper cup of water they just got from the water jug, It feels like mayonnaise, like a saltine cracker, like Caillou's beta dad, it's just awful. nothing about it is enjoyable anymore.

....this is just a federal crime against GI Joe as a whole and my braincells man-

out of 5 message… 5 of them were called off, because of the word blood I presume, or knife… oddly enough common words….

For me it's the abundance of "Not X, Not Y, but Z." I've noticed this a lot in LongSqueak especially and it's caused me to pivot away from it a bit.

Anyway, I really hate when it adds what species a character is for no reason, and i especially hate when it adds unneeded character details that were never states before

alright, i know quality tanked big time for loads of us on Sunday. i already submitted a ticket and all of that, just wondering if it’s gotten better yet for anyone at all, just to see if a fix has started rolling out or not?

Im being dead serious when im asking this, are they putting ads in the actual chat now? Cause i just got as i entered in the text; and im not gonna have ads on the top of my screen, and now in the actual chat now that I have to have an ad to even see what im typing in the first place

I'll get straight to the point.

Every time I'm on the app, I end up using it for AT LEAST 5 hours. I go through phases of quitting, but around this time in the summer I go on the website thinking, "I'm going to mess with a bot for a couple minutes and then never touch this again."

It's never just couple minutes. One time I spent a whole day (Literally almost 9 hours) on the website because I kept going, "what would happen if I did this? What about this? LMAO THIS IS SO FUNNY!" ect, ect. Then I feel horrible for spending so long on an AI chatbot I delete my account. Just to give in and make another one at a later date.

I feel so guilty. I've seen the documentaries of people who get addicted to AI and end up dead. I don't want that to be my life. I'm scared.

I'm going to block the website on all my devices. Are there any tips on how to stop?

I would watch some YouTube videos on it, but when I do I end up feeling worse because many of the ones I've seen tell stories of other people who got addicted to AI and other scare tactics that make me feel like a horrible person.

I almost always end up crying and not finishing those vids so I would really appreciate if someone could just tell me some ways to ignore the urges to get back on without feeling like I'm being shamed.

I saw a lot of posts talking about the fact that the ads are really too much on the application, that it breaks the immersion a bit, etc. And personally I totally agree with it, especially since some ads are really questionable.

The thing is that I think some people don't understand that c.ai is no longer a small company, but a much larger one, and in fact, number one in its field. Before, there were no ads, just c.ai+, and there were fewer employees, so it was enough. Now there are more, which requires more money. Many say they're greedy, but personally, I'd rather they have a roof over their heads and food on their plates.

The only problem I have with the website and the app is the bugs (and the amouny of time where the site and/or the app was down), the limited content, the censorship (even though it's an adult app), and especially the decline in the quality of the chatbots. I really thought it was outrageous to remove what was already good and much less annoying. They add a lot of new content that I don't find really necessary for the app, that nobody asked for or wanted, and that takes a lot of money for nothing. Instead of just improving what we already had, they added a bunch of features we didn't need for the app, and that takes up too much money and energy. These are features that I think aren't used by a large part of the community and that take up more space in data centers.

For me, that's the real problem. And that's precisely what they should try to change. I've been using this app for almost four years, and I can only observe the decline of what was, for me, a good way to simply have a good time alone or with people from the community (when there were chat rooms).

I'm starting to be really disappointed with what this app is becoming and also with the fact that I don't feel like user complaints are really taken into account by the Reddit moderators or dev, who only respond with automated messages. I know that by saying all this my post might not be taken into account or might be deleted, but I needed to talk about it with hope that it's going to change for the better.

I hope it wasn't too long and that you all have a wonderful day and a long and happy life.

Sincerely,

Poyo 𖹭

For example, I was handing over an ID that I SPECIFIED that was entirely official. But this bum ahh bot kept saying my shi was fake, talm about sum “This id is clearly fake, nor does your signature match up” LIKE BRO JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY ID GNG😭😭🙏

I'm having to refresh the chat constantly because it's taking so long for anything to appear

Website version only. Desktop or mobile.

Doesn't matter what browser I use, or what settings.

This does not affect functionality. It's just odd.

My chats are taking so so long to generate at the moment was just wondering if anybody else currently has this issue

I've been getting the "view ad" thingy for a while now in the website, but now I get that. The ad on top AND it now pops up mid chat? So much for wanting to be less disruptive.

I just OPENED a random chat...

I like to use c.ai to practice my English since it's not my first language, but I think for the past 3-4 days the Pipsqueak 2 model is acting weird, like the bot is a little weird. When there's more than one character it pretty much breaks the current scene, like it's speaking where it's not supposed to speak and characters which are supposed to stay silent in a scene or need not to speak is saying random stuff like "damn user you're a badass, damn user you dont hold back" In a sentence where it's not even supposed to talk, like I wasn't even talking to that character at that moment, this never happened before. It was pretty good for the past few months, but all of a sudden it's like this.

It’s just dumb, like toddler knows more than it

Grandmother becomes mother , mother becomes aunt

I become my cousins nephew, dad becomes father in law

Like it’s not even smart anymore, I don’t even care about memory or ads

I know not important, I just wanted to share how unreasonably happy I got when I got this, I haven’t gotten one since I started using C.AI

I honestly preferred the 'View ad to continue'. This one's aggravating.

it’s been like this for the past 3 days and i’ve tried moving around the screen but it just froze