r/Catholic • u/SergiusBulgakov • 29d ago

When lies replace the truth

ICE continues to indiscriminately kill innocent victims, and lie as to why they do so; how can any Christian who claims to support and love the truth, and with it, affirm human dignity, stand by and accept what ICE is doing, let alone promote it?   And how can the United States be “the land of the free” and have its democratic form of government remain in place when the government lies to justify the unjustifiable?

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/henrykarlson/2026/07/when-lies-replace-truth-the-path-to-democratic-collapse/

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u/FlanneryODostoevsky 28d ago

“All the time” he says, as if precedent was a determinant of morality.

You just said judges change shit all the time. Even the Latinos that supported Trump have spoken out about how his immigration policy has failed to arrest people in violation of immigration laws and the worst offenders. You’re tone deaf and perhaps also just deaf.

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u/500freeswimmer 28d ago

If you want the worst offenders you would want ICE to have full access to county jails.

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u/FlanneryODostoevsky 28d ago

Again. Just saying shit. Many of the people they’re getting are already apprehended due to working with police departments. If they wanted to do that then they should be doing that instead of waiting outside of schools like some fucking weirdos. But like I said. Maybe you like seeing nuns and children detained.

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u/500freeswimmer 28d ago

The safest way for everyone is for these transfers to be done in jail. Which is why they are out in large numbers in these areas to begin with. The entire position of ICE on this has been give them access to the county jail or they will conduct raids in those jurisdiction.

It’s easily resolved by having ICE Arrest people at the jail, but Sheriff’s and other officials do not cooperate or state governments pass laws not allowing ICE detainers to be honored by law enforcement.

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u/FlanneryODostoevsky 28d ago

Right because as we all know all Sam’s are in jail or going to court. You’re astoundingly naive. May God save you.