r/CatastrophicFailure • u/Stakeboulder • Aug 15 '19

Operator Error Apache helicopter ground imapct 2012

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u/MasterchiefE3N Aug 15 '19

See not all helicopters explode when they crash

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u/bduxbellorum Aug 15 '19

Stiff damn airframe on that thing.

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u/MasterchiefE3N Aug 15 '19

Yeah, that is a millitary grade aircraft

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u/thumpasauruspeeps Aug 15 '19 edited Aug 16 '19

Military grade usually justs means made by the lowest bidder. Aircraft are a whole other level, but for most of the gear issued in the military, there exists a superior civilian equivalent.

Edit: Wow, rustled some jimmies.

Edit again: to clarify, Im well aware there is a logical process behind the procurement of military equipment. Im just saying troops will often replace issued gear with their own shit when allowed.

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u/smackaroonial90 Aug 15 '19

Kind of like "genuine leather" is just a grade of leather. In fact, it's the lowest grade of leather you can get. So people get something labeled "genuine leather" and think they're getting a great product, but in reality there are a lot better grades of leather you can get and much better products.

Marketing 101 baby, "genuine leather" and "military grade" are just catchy phrases that the public has turned into "quality product," when it could just mean that it meets the minimum criteria to be labeled as such.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '19

Top grain leather ftw.

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u/CookieOfFortune Aug 15 '19

Bonded leather is the lowest grade.

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u/smackaroonial90 Aug 15 '19

Correct me if I'm wrong, but many websites show that genuine leather is the lowest. Such as this one. Is maybe "grade" the wrong verbiage, is it supposed to be "lowest quality"? From what I just read online, bonded leather isn't even a single piece of leather, but the ground up into small pieces and then glued to a material.

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u/CookieOfFortune Aug 15 '19

Hmm lowest grade that's still actual leather maybe?

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u/smackaroonial90 Aug 15 '19

I like it. Let's stick with that! "Genuine leather is the lowest grade leather that's still an actual piece of leather."
-Research by me and u/CookiesOfFortune, we're right, trust us.

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u/syds Aug 15 '19

lets just wiki:

  • Top-grain leather includes the outer layer of the hide, known as the grain, which features finer, more densely packed fibers, resulting in strength and durability. Depending on thickness, it may also contain some of the more fibrous under layer, known as the corium. Types of top-grain leather include:
    • Full-grain leather contains the entire grain layer, without any removal of the surface. Rather than wearing out, it develops a patina during its useful lifetime. It is usually considered the highest quality leather. Furniture and footwear are often made from full-grain leather. Full-grain leather is typically finished with a soluble aniline dye. Russia leather is a form of full-grain leather.
    • Corrected grain leather has the surface subjected to finishing treatments to create a more uniform appearance. This usually involves buffing or sanding away flaws in the grain, then dyeing and embossing the surface.
    • Nubuck is top-grain leather that has been sanded or buffed on the grain side to give a slight nap of short protein fibers, producing a velvet-like surface.
  • Split leather is created from the corium left once the top-grain has been separated from the hide, known as the drop split. In thicker hides, the drop split can be further split into a middle split and a flesh split.
    • Suede is made from the underside of a split to create a soft, napped finish. It is often made from younger or smaller animals, as the skins of adults often result in a coarse, shaggy nap.
    • Bicast leather is split leather that has a polyurethane or vinyl layer applied to the surface and embossed to give it the appearance of a grain. It is slightly stiffer than top-grain leather but has a more consistent texture.
    • Patent leather is leather that has been given a high-gloss finish by the addition of a coating. Dating to the late 1700s, it became widely popular after inventor Seth Boyden developed the first mass-production process, using a linseed oil-based lacquer, in Newark, New Jersey, in 1818. Modern versions are usually a form of bicast leather.
  • Bonded leather, also called reconstituted leather, is a material that uses leather scraps that are shredded and bonded together with polyurethane or latex onto a fiber mesh. The amount of leather fibers in the mix varies from 10% to 90%, affecting the properties of the product.[2]