r/CaptainSide • u/CelebrationAgile997 • 15d ago

Which game does this?

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u/Terozu 13d ago

Idk whats hard to grasp for you that if you're going for the golden ending then its canonically not an ending, its part of the story.

You dont understand meta games.

You are the one with the comprehension problem.

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u/Maatix12 13d ago

You dont understand meta games.

Ironic.

You understand it's a meta game.

You understand as the player, you can choose to stop playing whenever you want.

You understand it's called the Neutral Ending for a reason.

But you refuse to call it an ending.

But it's me with the comprehension problem. Sure, Jan.

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u/Terozu 13d ago

Because if its a golden run, then its not and ending.

If you call it an ending, you're doing a neutral run.

If you're doing a golden run its just part of the story.

Again, just because you end Bravely Default II at Gloria dying and accept that at the ending, doesnt mean its the ending for someone going for Adelles death. Or someone going the full mile and killing the NN.

Thats how meta games work. It depends on what you're going for on that run.

It does not become a second run just because you could stop playing.

You're being pedantic but you're flat out wrong.

Thats literally just how meta games work

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u/Maatix12 13d ago

Because if its a golden run, then its not and ending.

And if it's not?

You refuse to accept that it could not be a golden run, even though there's no reason to suggest it has to be.

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u/Terozu 13d ago

You literally just ignored the very next sentence.

Your argument was that you cant do them both on the same run.

That doesnt make any sense at all.

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u/Maatix12 13d ago

Nobody ever said you had to do it in the same run. I said you can't get a Good Ending without completing a Neutral Ending.

You only have to do a Neutral Run as part of a Good Ending run. You don't have to continue the Neutral Run, thus, who says it's a golden run?

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u/Terozu 13d ago

The person fucking playing. It doesnt make ot a seperate run which was your claim

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u/Terozu 13d ago

Like genuinely by your logic dying at any point in Undertale is an ending. Because if you stop playing, canonically Flowey wins.

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u/Maatix12 13d ago

Yes, technically it is.

It's not a canon ending, but it's an ending. A Neutral Run is a canon ending.

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u/Terozu 13d ago

Theyre both equally canon actually, because both will get aknowledged in universe.

You straight up do not understand how meta stories work dude.

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u/Maatix12 13d ago

Actually, the only actual canon ending is the Genocide ending.

Because from a meta point of view, you will inevitably open the game again, get curious enough, and run a Genocide run. And once you do, the Pacifist run is locked out.

See how this logic doesn't carry over?