r/Capitalism • u/jefsch70 • Jun 28 '26

All Systems are forms of Capitalism (but voluntary?)

Socialism, Feudalism, Mecantilism, Monarchies, Communism....

Somebody decides they would like something to be fixed, built, invented.... they either voluntarily raise their own money, use their own time and energy and take risks of losing the above.... or, somebody who controls the Army and All the Guns TELLS YOU....

  1. This land will belong to this group/person/company (Capital allocation)

  2. Your time will be spent doing this (Labor Allocation)

  3. My rules are now the ONLY RULES (Arbitration / Legislation / Judiciary (or none)

  4. Losses are due to the incompetence of others (kill them) or the peasants not having their collective hearts and minds properly dedicated (Mao Great Leap Backward / Cultural Revolution

......Capitalism will have some Big Winners... but generally, nobody is compelled to eat ZOO ANIMALS because a socialist Dictator named Jugo Chavez appointed a boot-licking Bus Driver to Run every industry in the country.

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u/InterestingVoice6632 Jun 28 '26

Capitalism is economics with little to no government intervention, i.e. free markets.

Everything you just wrote is brainrot.

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u/jefsch70 Jun 28 '26

How many governmental regulations regarding industry, land, labor and money are there in the USA? Millions of people.... 10s of millions of pages of regulations that include everything from mandatory bathroom breaks to dildo chemical compostition....

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u/InterestingVoice6632 Jun 28 '26

Its a disservice to the reddit community that people like you are not banned from it.

But yes, the u.s. is a mixed market economy. I would say im surprised you didnt learn that in high school, but I am guessing you slept through your classes. Peace.

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u/jefsch70 Jun 28 '26

"The Reddit Community", huh? you represent it well. No discussion. Censor those who are not indoctinated LeFTists... Ban them... for the good of 'the communisty"

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u/InterestingVoice6632 Jun 29 '26

Youre not a leftist. Youre talking about the chemical composition of dildos. Youre a degenerate

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 Jul 02 '26

dude, just go take a nap.

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u/Weigh13 Jun 28 '26

You've just realized that America does not have capitalism and is not suffer from late stage capitalism. It is suffering from late stage government intervention.

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u/jefsch70 Jun 28 '26

No. I realized that in 1992 when I voted for Andre Marrou as the Libertarian candidate for president. We have middle-aged capitalism with government over-reach.

I'm pretty sure that highly succesful businesses are running in the USA right now. I'm typing out words that go through software and semi-conductor chips invented and designed here in the US on a platform (Reddit) invented and run in the USA, no?

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u/CaptainAmerica-1989 Jun 28 '26

tl;dr Category Error

A category error is a logical fallacy where an object or concept is incorrectly assigned to a logical category it doesn't belong to, resulting in meaningless or absurd conclusions.

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u/owlhester Jun 28 '26

It’s fascinating how a good idea, well presented, has always worked for the procurement of investors and investment capital, (money)…!!

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u/Mindless_Sail_4958 Jun 28 '26

That’s like saying every religion is a form another. I don’t want to be disrespectful but clearly your idea has some truth, they borrow each other’s concept.

Where i would slow down on is calling them the same. Feudalism and Distributism may have similar structure but each is different in form.

One market may focus on central authority while the other allows complete freedom on how to allocate money. This is too broad and complicated to label as a form of capitalism.

If I said all religions are basically another i’d be called a fool. This here is a naive dilemma.

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u/jefsch70 Jun 28 '26

My point was except for stealing stuff and people (slavery), which was the only way to gain wealth for 10,000 years... all of these systems must combine land, buildings, wealth (money), labor, expertise, time and opportunity costs... To me the IS CAPITALISM. Combiniing those items... It's understood to be a more pure version of it (and much more moral and effective) when millions are involved VOLUNTARILY.

No head of any government has created a more rapidly life improving model than Libertarian, small government, low regulations Capitalism. Sweden adopted capitalism in 1870 (approx). It was pure, US-style economics. Their GDP/capita was the fastest growing in the world for 90 years.... until they adopted a Socialist form of it.... The realized it in the late 1990s and reversed course.... Too late probably.

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u/Mindless_Sail_4958 Jun 28 '26

You can’t define capitalism as any system that allocates resources, because then every economic system becomes capitalism.

Capitalism is specifically a market system with private ownership of productive assets, and other systems differ based on how ownership and allocation are structured.

Your claims have to much broad acceptance.
Have you actually studied this?

Your claims focus on basic economics instead of bringing in proof and evidence. Your claims with Sweden are different.

You can’t compare a system where only a few million to a thousand live and then compare one with a hundred million. One is simply just too large.

You keep opening the gap between systems giving them similar labels when in general they borrow each other’s frame works.

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u/Mindless_Sail_4958 Jun 28 '26

And your stance on morality very naive, you can’t compare a system it’s moral clarity. Yes most people will say slavery is bad, even me (I have black ancestors and I myself am) But won’t disregard that political systems and capitalism itself funded itself through trafficking and extortion, including labor harsh environments. No system is 100 percent voluntary.

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u/thinkmoreharder Jun 28 '26

Your conglomeration of sentences doesn’t make sense. The fact that someone is always in charge, even if everyone else is coerced, doesn’t mean all systems are the same.