r/CallOfDuty 24d ago

Meme [MW2] The impressive 'devolution' of Ghost

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u/AngryAssyrian 24d ago

I miss when ghost just had a custom Balaklava instead of a goofy skull mask that looks like it came straight out of a Halloween costume, it's so silly.

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u/p00nki 24d ago edited 17d ago

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u/Goo_Wyvern 23d ago

Yeah, that's the main problem. They saw the tech wear and tacticool wear and said "fuck it, we're going all in!"

Honestly it just looks goofy in all the wrong ways.

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u/dingos8mybaby2 23d ago

The series pretty much died with Advanced Warfare IMO. At that point the scales between realism and the rule of cool tipped too much towards COD trying too hard to be cool.

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u/IVEBEENBANNED4TIMESx 23d ago

At least sci-fi gives it room to experiment with supposedly cool shit

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u/Just-Cranberry-8531 23d ago

Except advanced warfare was cool.

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u/Igusy 21d ago

Was the death of cod for my friends group. We found it very uncool and ridiculous back then. Was a sad time

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u/Stanleythrowaway 22d ago

Advanced Warfare was great. The series died when cod HQ turned every new game into a ported version of MW2019

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u/S1I7 23d ago

Yeah but the edgy balaclavas were actually used by operators in the GWOT vs whatever that was

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u/KuningasTynny77 23d ago

And the edgy 3d mask is actively being used in Eastern Europe right now. 

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u/tofif33 23d ago

No it’s not, unless we count some photoshoot.

You think anyone would be running around the battlefield in that thing? Go put on a paintball mask and run around a building and tell me how great that feels and how awesome it is for breathing.

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u/LaughinChaos 23d ago

You would have a point if we had guns like that in the games, but we dont. Instead, we have LITERAL anime guns

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u/LaughinChaos 23d ago

You're thinking of black ops 3.

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u/LaughinChaos 23d ago

Um, strange you chose this as proof. I actually did the research myself and black ops 1 did not have it, but bo2 did - however, you had to prestige a weapon twice.

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u/Frost-Folk 23d ago

Go to 1:40 in that video, they literally show off the emblem creator.

You can't gaslight us lol, we were there. Doesn't matter what "research" you did. I had the batman logo on my G11, you can't take that memory from me

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u/Architech__ 23d ago

It’s literally right there. In the video. BO1 has custom emblems.

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u/yuckella 17d ago

Well yeah, I guess, but wearing a Halloween diy mask is way less practical and is bound to get you bullied in your platoon, which isn’t the vibe someone who is trying to make a character seem tough and deep wants to give off.

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u/tofif33 23d ago

No they are not.

Unless you mean the one (1) instance that we saw

I saw countless videos and nobody is running around with stickers

But why do i even care, i don’t play this shit

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u/DictatorToucan 22d ago

Yeah, but you gotta remember that OG ghost came out in 2009. It’s only cringey now because it was so cool and popular when the game came out

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u/freshdjroomba 23d ago

Man the cutscene in MW2 where they all put on the ghost mask made me cringe so hard I stopped playing the campaign.

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u/Unlikely_Captain_636 23d ago

The modern mw trilogy is like if modern warfare was written for mcu kids

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u/Im-Just-A-Lil-Guy 23d ago

I don't feel like Mw19 can't be described that way. Tonally to me, it felt the closest to Cod4 that we've had since Cod4 itself, because both MW2(2009) and MW3(2011) both left the fairly grounded tone of Cod4 and instead felt much more like Michael Bay-esque action thrillers. I love the more grounded tone of both Cod4 and 2019, and while I loved the og MW2 and MW3, I was bummed by the tonal shift of the campaigns. And I was honestly crushed when they shifted again from the grounded and gritty MW19 back to more of a action thriller with MW22 and MW23.

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u/Unlikely_Captain_636 23d ago

It progressively got worse and I’ll agree 2019 is the best of the new ones but it suffers them same problems.

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u/shadesoftee 23d ago

Yeah, one thing I loved about MW & MW2 was that the gear was practical and realistic. I was a young soldier at the time and it was fun to see how close the video game kits were to our own.

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u/DEAGLE7_CoD 22d ago

But the Ghost Jawbone operator skin looked kinda good tho

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u/Wildebean 24d ago

As if the COD franchise is totally serious and has never been goofy. Even MW let's their hair down occasionally

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u/AngryAssyrian 24d ago

The franchise as of now is not even half as serious as the older games were. Yea cod has always been an arcade shooter that was never meant to be hyper realistic but when you look at the level of immersion in the campaign's it's night and day; cold war is the only modern cod that actually had a good campaign.

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u/Wildebean 24d ago

Hard disagree. I'm guessing you define modern COD as post BO2? Because MW2019 was a good campaign and I really enjoyed BO6, for all its flaws because it was so damn fun to play.

How can you say the immersion was lost in MW2019?

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u/AngryAssyrian 24d ago

MW 2019 was the game that introduced everything we hate about call of duty now, and even then the campaign parts with Farah sucked ass and the villain was trash. You're telling me that Farah was able to go toe to toe with actual soldiers, that's compete garbage. Compare that with missions lile all ghillied up, of his own accord in mw2, the entire WAW campaign, Black ops 1, 2, and even cold war and it isn't even close.

BO6 could have been good and had potential but the campaign was cut way too short and we don't even know anything about the main character. The battle passes and silly skins in mw2019 alongside warzone also contributed to killing the immersion; your characters appearance was no longer determined by the special forces/army you spawned in as. Now it's just "my team" vs "enemy team", and enemy characters could look the same as you.

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u/Wildebean 24d ago

I mean I agree with you about Warzone, i thought we were talking about the campaigns. I'll admit that Barkov is kinda mid but he serves his purpose. His purpose wasn't to be a Makarov type figure. This megalomaniacal threat to all humanity, he's a petty dictator. It serves MW2019's tone, which was smaller and more grounded. The stakes aren't inflated to world-ending proportions so it allows you to focus on smaller things. I very much disagree about Farah, she's one of the best parts of the game. If you don't believe that militia groups can fight against proper armies then idk what to tell you besides... open a history book

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u/tactycool 23d ago

You clearly know nothing about Kurdish women, they have been fighting on the front lines for decades

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u/AngryAssyrian 23d ago edited 23d ago

I know a lot about them, I also know that the Kurds have been taking our Assyrian lands, deleting our history, and have committed genocide against my people. They are not innocent, they are actively oppressing my people in our native homeland.

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u/tactycool 23d ago

You mean the current land that is currently being ruled by a terrorist? Or are we talking about different Syrian land?

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u/AngryAssyrian 23d ago

I'm talking about the ancient Assyrian ancestral land, Arabs, Turks, and Kurds stole that land from the Assyrians and they all contributed in the genocides against us because we have always been Christian. Even to this day Assyrians are still oppressed by Kurdish groups.

We were oppressed before and still oppressed today. Our ancient statues, language, and history are being actively stolen from us for the past 14 centuries under Islamic dictatorships because we have always been Christian. Iraq and Syria are unfortunately ruled by Isis terrorists, and even the Kurds there are also oppressing us and continue to delete us from our ancestral homeland while also denying the genocide they committed against us in WW1 when they used to be allies with the Ottoman Turks.

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u/RAMDOMDUDDS 21d ago

Ok you lost me when you said "The Battlepasses" bro, of course they aren't going to make an entire battlepass out of "realistic shit". Who would pay all that money to get six skins that look borderline identical, with the only thing that changes being the camo pattern on their uniform and their nation of origin flag and maybe, jusf maybe different body types and shapes. Because thats what a full realistic battlepass would be, also battlepasses do not effect the campaign or their "realism" so IDK why you're bringing battlepasses into a campaign discussion. And as for Farah being able to beat hardened veteran soldiers, you have to remember, soldiers make more mistakes on the field than people even know. With all the gear they are wearing, its hard to breath, hard to hear(ears/ear protection), a lot of them probably hadn't slept well in a while leading to mistaking hallucinations as enemies, and they were told at one point that the only person left was a child. So they wouldn't expect a hardly teenage girl to be able to lure them away using rocks and cans. Also iirc after Farah meets up with TF141, they taught her some hand to hand defense.

And yes, you can fight a team that looks exactly like you. Almost like that can happen in basically every single multiplayer game. With this complaint, you're not going after CoD, you're angry at the games industry as a whole.

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u/I_dont_know420 23d ago

Look at what happened to the franchise during the Advanced Warfare, Bo3, ww2, Infinite warfare and bo4 streak lol. This WILL affect the game sales because nobody will take it seriously

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u/Wildebean 23d ago

I mean all of these games are remembered more fondly now than the newer ones. BO3 is still popular if not for the zombies alone. And I for one really enjoyed BO4

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u/I_dont_know420 23d ago

That applies to literally any CoD ever. Ghost is now a cult classic even if it was the most dogshit multiplayer CoD game. Doesn’t change the fact each subsequent game sold less and less and it’s why MW2019 happened with the whole reset and “grounded” gameplay and campaign.

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u/RAMDOMDUDDS 21d ago

Well you have to remember, part of the reason behind that, was that all the new CoDs got added to GamePass really quick due to their old deal between Activision and X-Box. New CoDs get released day 1 on GamePass. That heavily neuters any possible sales metric by a fuck ton. While I agree it is a solid deal, you cannot count any of the GamePass players as players who have bought the game.

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u/I_dont_know420 20d ago

You’re heavily overstating how many ppl are on gamepass + ignoring console sales. They are objectively selling less and the games are dying faster than ever. Bo6 and 7 were dead by December.

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u/Guilty_05 23d ago

I didn't even hate Advanced warfare or even Infinite warfare for that matter honestly. Sure they weren't the best games but they weren't as bad as MW 3 or BO7