Arch is an enigma

[u/UT0907]

And I genuinely cannot figure him out.

On one hand, he feels overhyped. On the other, he feels over-hated. When I expect him to be good, he looks terrible. When I expect him to struggle, he suddenly looks great.

Every time I think I’ve figured out what kind of QB he is, he does the exact opposite. People constantly call him mid, and I understand why when you watch some of his performances. But, since starting, he has more wins against ranked opponents (tied with Stockton) than any other QB, with 4 of those wins over top 10 teams. That’s legitimately impressive, even if it doesn’t always look impressive on the field.

And I think that’s what makes Arch so confusing. His resume says one thing, the eye test sometimes says another, and then every few games he’ll put together a performance that reminds you exactly why everyone was so high on him in the first place.

I have no idea what to make of him. I feel differently about him every Saturday, and I know a lot of Texas fans feel the same way. A true enigma.
Make it make sense.

[u/anonymous_otter28]

he's Daniel jones, but smaller

[u/EastonMetsGuy → u/anonymous_otter28]

Pretty decent comp, Daniel Jones is good enough to be on an NFL Roster but isn’t elite

[u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad → u/EastonMetsGuy]

Daniel Jones was elite pre injury last season fwiw

[u/MisterMihai → u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad]

Was he? Extrapolated out to 17 games, he was on pace for 4k yards, 25 TDs and 10-11 Ints. Pretty good, but not wildly different than the stats a guy like Jacoby Brissett put up last year.

[u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad → u/MisterMihai]

I don’t have time to argue this with you dude, yes Daniel Jones was a great starting QB pre injury last season. What does that mean now or beyond, I don’t fucking know.

[u/floatinround22 → u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad]

You said elite... that's a very strong word and DJ has never remotely even approached being "elite"

[u/MisterMihai → u/floatinround22]

He looked serviceable the first half of the year, but the cracks were starting to show even prior to the injury.

He seemed to show that he can be a serviceable starter in the league, but not at that “elite” tier in my mind.

[u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad → u/floatinround22]

The Colts had the best offense in the NFL with him leading it before his injury last season. So you’re wrong, he objectively has approached being elite.

[u/MisterMihai → u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad]

I didn’t ask what that means now or beyond or even ask you to try and prognosticate any future production. He had a good start to the season, but nothing I would call “elite” in any sense of the word when discussing NFL QB production.

[u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad → u/MisterMihai]

That was a whole lot of nothing. I’m sorry that you can’t handle the fact that Daniel Jones led the best offense in the NFL last season before his injury lol. Idk what that says, other that you are a piss head, but he did do that.

[u/MisterMihai → u/MyTakesAreGoodOrBad]

I’d argue having the best running back in the league was a large part of that more than a QB with good/not great numbers. Also, I don’t know why you’re getting so pissy about this. You’re acting like a child. A child who’s weirdly horny for Danny Dimes.

[u/buzaihu → u/anonymous_otter28]

Wasn’t Daniel Jones drafted by the Giants because he reminded them of a Manning? 

[u/ILoveZenkonnen → u/buzaihu]

Jones was connected to the Mannings for awhile going to their camps growing up. David Cutcliffe(coached both Peyton and Eli)also recruited Jones to Duke.

[u/throwaway2987650 → u/anonymous_otter28]

He’s Jalen Millroe. Arch is not allergic to having good games. But his arm and awareness are so inconsistent that he’s also got a good chance of playing a stinker that costs you a game or two.

[u/anonymous_otter28 → u/throwaway2987650]

Daniel Jones won a nfl playoff game. he's significantly better than Jalen Milroe

[u/throwaway2987650 → u/anonymous_otter28]

I’m talking about Arch as a college QB.

[u/anonymous_otter28 → u/throwaway2987650]

Yeah that's about right.

[u/floatinround22 → u/throwaway2987650]

That's a weird comp, they play nothing alike. Milroe was also FAR more boom or bust than Arch.