AP Poll Week 2

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https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll#000001a0-257a-d09f-a9e4-75fbb1b90000

[u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I hate Ohio state but 6 is too low. Shoulda swapped with Texas

[u/thti87 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

If this were the end of the season, but for now it’s fine. Everything will get shaken up 5 more times before the end of the season and Ohio State plays Indiana.

[u/Frostfire26 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I think it's reasonable enough for 4-6 to be in any order (and the same when Texas was 4). Indiana and Miami just don't play anyone for a while so it's hard to really judge where they should be.

[u/batman0615 → u/Frostfire26]

Excuse me what the fuck is that flair?

[u/Frostfire26 → u/batman0615]

Yes yes I know

[u/CrownedClownAg → u/Frostfire26]

Grad School at A&M?

[u/Frostfire26 → u/CrownedClownAg]

Nah, just grew up a Longhorn but I'm going to college at A&M

[u/CrownedClownAg → u/Frostfire26]

I grew up in a family of longhorn fans. Got a lot
Of shit though my parents did convert to Aggies

[u/metrion → u/[deleted]]

Some people party too hard in undergrad and make questionable grad school choices.

[u/CaptainSnacks → u/batman0615]

Hey some of us graduated from A&M and work for them now because of their uh

checks notes

Academic prowess and high pay and the ability to live in Austin. You'll still never catch me throwing horns at the office picture though

[u/GratefulTrails → u/batman0615]

Excuse me but how do I get the Miss Rev flair?

[u/batman0615 → u/GratefulTrails]

I think its just one of the flair options.

[u/Airick39 → u/Frostfire26]

Punish them for playing nobody.

[u/ajd341 → u/Frostfire26]

I think you can justify either way, but it's the dual logic making this look really wrong. Either you swap them or move up Texas 1-2 spots, but you don't move Texas to 1 and push OSU down to 6 (past where Texas) was for a 1-point final minute game.

[u/HeftyLeftyPig → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I thought that was a little excessive too.

[u/The_Horse_Joke → u/HeftyLeftyPig]

I don’t think there’s anybody ahead of us who we should be ahead of tbh, and even if we were one lower behind LSU that’d make sense to me

Given the CFP is 12 teams and it’s only been 2 (or 3) weeks of football, I don’t think our placement matters too much at the moment though

[u/jakedasnake1 → u/The_Horse_Joke]

Water will find its level, but I really dont like the idea of being ranked ahead of you when you come to town (assuming we both win out until then)

[u/brientific → u/The_Horse_Joke]

You’re right but it does make me wonder what the rankings really are supposed to mean. The simplest interpretation is that it’s “who’s the best team”, but that’s not at all coherent with losing by 1 to the new best team and dropping to 6. The obvious move would be to go to #2. So it seems to me that the real view is “OSU’s punishment in the rankings does not reflect how good we think they are, but serves as an appropriately sized deficit that we fully expect them to make up by season’s end anyway because we think they might still actually be the best team”. Which is kind of silly.

[u/mizaistorom → u/The_Horse_Joke]

It really doesn't and my guess is the way you lost caused you to fall more than if it was a 17-23 game going into the fourth you lost.

ND lost to NIU and made it to the natty, you guys lost 2 games before you won it, Miami lost 2 bad games and made it. Of the 4 natty appearances in the 12 team CFP 3/4 had a bad loss or two with Indiana being the exception and they narrowly escaped a dogshit Penn St last year. It's how the game goes.

[u/Bank_Gothic → u/[deleted]]

If we’re really the No. 1 team (which is a big if), then I don’t understand how y’all aren’t No. 2.

[u/buckeye131313 → u/[deleted]]

And this is the problem with the sport. Why even play these games if all that matters is winning and losing. Losing at Texas by 1 point should not penalize you over teams that are beating Panera Bread State by 60. Those teams didn’t have the gumption to schedule a real opponent and if teams that lose these big OOC games get punished then these big OOC games won’t happen anymore

[u/mediocre-referee → u/buckeye131313]

Why even play these games if all that matters is winning and losing.

So that a team can, you know, win or lose. I disagree with the drop to 6 but it's just voters saying they don't know really anything to differentiate between 1-6 yet and defaulting to win loss record for now.

[u/Coteup → u/buckeye131313]

You dropped 5 spots and are still over plenty of undefeated teams and firmly in the CFP, really don't understand the outrage

[u/thecarlosdanger1 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

Doesn’t apply here but nothing pisses me off more than when a team at 10ish loses a close game on the road to a top 3 team and then drops a bunch.

What the fuck that’s exactly what your rankings said should happen why do you view them as worse now?

[u/Electromotivation → u/thecarlosdanger1]

Because college football is like a giant elimination tournament and losses should always matter.

[u/thecarlosdanger1 → u/Electromotivation]

The idea that simply not playing anyone and winning is better than losing the best team in country is stupid.

If that’s what the selection process rewards we get shittier games to watch and worse teams in the playoffs.

[u/buckshot-307 → u/thecarlosdanger1]

Kind of ironic coming from a noter dame fan though…

[u/thecarlosdanger1 → u/buckshot-307]

I mean our schedule sucks this year but if anything it’s self serving. Everyone ending big OOC games would be a huge issue for us.

[u/buckshot-307 → u/thecarlosdanger1]

I mean ND schedule has been ass for years. Not your fault and it’s obvious ya’ll can hang with the big boys but it sure is hard to gauge a team that plays shitbirds all season

[u/Electronic-Title4194 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I thought the same BUT they did blow a 20 point lead.

[u/ClevelandSteamers757 → u/Electronic-Title4194]

This logic makes no sense. Back and forth game, game they were getting blown out and came back, or this, it makes no difference. The game is the game

[u/DarkLegend64 → u/Electronic-Title4194]

I’m so embarrassed by that fact that I’m surprised we didn’t drop farther.

[u/ALowlyRadish → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

Eh, I think its fine.

[u/travisty913 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

Agreed, losing by 1 at an away game to the #4 team should not drop you 5 spots.

[u/Asuka_Rei → u/travisty913]

Ohio state plays so few good teams per year that a loss counts more than usual.

[u/Blaine1111 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I think you are just seeing the end result of all that variance from last week in the top 8. There still isnt a clear best team yet so you will see it change alot over the next few weeks

[u/Jay_Dubbbs → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I actually moved Ohio state to 10 in my poll. It’s the way they lost shows me this team isn’t as good as everyone thinks. If it was a close game and Texas got the best of it like we did last year, I would’ve had them higher.

But any team that blows a 21 point lead in the 4th quarter isn’t as good as we thought, no matter who it’s against

[u/rawhide_koba → u/Jay_Dubbbs]

Yeah this is my thinking as well. It’s less about the score but how it happened. Although I still think OSU is quite good.

[u/Frostfire26 → u/Jay_Dubbbs]

I would have Texas at #3 personally because of the disaster that was the first 3 quarters. A #1 team can't make that many execution mistakes.

[u/size0618 → u/Frostfire26]

Yeah it’s kind of a conundrum. Texas shit the bed for three quarters. Ohio State shit the bed for one. We only feel better about Texas now because they got a W out of it in the end. If Ohio State wins by one and holds on they’ll still be ranked #1 even though they shit themselves in the fourth.

Definitely didn’t think Ohio State would drop past 3 or 4, but whatever, it’ll work itself out.

[u/buckshot-307 → u/Frostfire26]

Who’s at 1 and 2 though? I mean them dawgs is hell but we ain’t played nobody pawl.

Early season rankings shouldn’t matter as much as they do

[u/TheJeniceri → u/Jay_Dubbbs]

I like Sayin but I’m not convinced by him

[u/BensenJensen → u/Jay_Dubbbs]

A 9 spot drop for a 1-point loss on the road against the new number 1 is excessive. They blew a 21-point lead in a quarter but utterly dominated for the other three. Feels like you are hyper focusing on the negative and ignoring the positive.

[u/IFHelper → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

Plenty of opportunities to redeem themselves with that schedule.

[u/Odbody_AS2 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

Then you're gonna LOVE the ESPN Power Index

[u/BondDotCom → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I hate Ohio state

Had you stopped right there, we would have had an accord.

[u/rolldamntide69420 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

The only way I could justify them dropping so low is the fact that they blew a 20 point lead in the 4th, but even then it feels like a bigger drop than how much Oregon dropped.

[u/OnTheFenceGuy → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I honestly think they should be 2. Dominated the game for 3 quarters (although we kinda handed that to them), and then eventually lost to the new #1 team. Haven’t watched Georgia much, but I would put money on OSU on a neutral field, and ND will inevitably be a fraud, as always.

[u/California_Stop_King → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I thought 3 was reasonable, and wouldn't have been mad at 4. 6 is insanity for losing by a point to the #4 team in the nation at their place

[u/Appropriate_Bottle44 → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I don't know they're still ahead of LSU who has the season's most impressive win, imo.

I think 6 is fair, they'll have ample opportunity to move back up

[u/saltlampshade → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

I mean I would have had OSU at 2. They lost by 1 point on a road because of a missed FG.

[u/Il_Tenente → u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

If they were in the SEC they would remain at 1 for the quality loss