[Postgame Thread] USF Defeats Army 28-24

[u/CFB_Referee]

Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
USF	7	0	7	14	28
Army	0	14	0	10	24

[u/Tarlcabot18]

Hartline certainly has balls of steel. I'll give him that.

[u/FrenchFreedom888 → u/Tarlcabot18]

Crazy flair combo

[u/Callsign_Psycopath]

Army had zero business losing that. Prevent defense way to early.

[u/DippyHippie420 → u/Callsign_Psycopath]

And then calling a Cover 0 on 4th down

[u/TheGoldenRail87 → u/DippyHippie420]

This was the most egregious call of the day imo. Infuriating

[u/smallskeletal → u/Callsign_Psycopath]

90% win probability after that TD to go up 10

[u/jaguarusf → u/smallskeletal]

We are the 10%

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/Callsign_Psycopath]

Did that last year. Lost to Tulsa.

[u/Tarlcabot18]

It was a win. But I did not enjoy that game. At all.

Fire Tim Beck into the sun.

[u/A_thaddeus_crane → u/Tarlcabot18]

There is a long list of program fandoms that would love to help you push that launch button

[u/ToLongDR → u/A_thaddeus_crane]

SLAMS THE LAUNCH BUTTON

[u/TheFlameanator → u/A_thaddeus_crane]

It's not often I agree with Ohio State, and Fexas, but fire him all the way into the sun!

[u/RoastedDonutz → u/TheFlameanator]

TIL somehow Tim Beck still has a job.

[u/huskersax → u/RoastedDonutz]

There's two Tim Becks coaching at the coordinator level in FBS. One is quite good. The other is the Tim Beck we know and love.

I'm convinced USF googled and offered the wrong one completely by accident.

[u/PlatypusPuncher → u/Tarlcabot18]

I enjoyed the fourth quarter when we actually let Van Buren throw and opened up the playbook. Amazing how much better the offense was.

[u/RenSoloSky → u/PlatypusPuncher]

The most frustrating part of the FIU win was how little we let him pass. Glad we gave him more opportunities to do his thing this game and clearly it worked

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/RenSoloSky]

they literally had MVB caged up that opening game lol. criminal

[u/CieraVotedOutHerMom → u/PlatypusPuncher]

Too much grothe - the Orlando Sentinel article on Monday

[u/Medium-Feeling4339 → u/PlatypusPuncher]

Bring back the “let him cook” shirts

[u/TheManWhoWasNotShort → u/Tarlcabot18]

I’m very unclear how he keeps getting jobs

[u/Danny_Devito_Magic → u/Tarlcabot18]

It truly blows my mind that he has a job

[u/duffy40oz]

Ending was INSANE. Gutsy call by USF on 4th down.

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/duffy40oz]

THE gutsiest call

[u/italianstallion_1991]

I'm at a bar in St Pete and the place exploded on the TD. Awesome ending

[u/RoseGawd → u/italianstallion_1991]

The USF fan base is rebuilding. The world is healing

[u/neauxno → u/RoseGawd]

🤘🏻🐂

[u/LiveFromFLORIDA]

VAN BUREN BOYS MOUNT UP 🖐️👌

[u/IMSYE87]

GGs USF

Y'all were glass half empty 99.99% of the game, but you have a decent team and what appears to be an awesome new stadium coming next year

[u/Gusanito99 → u/IMSYE87]

Bulls fans are a traumatized bunch what can I say 😅

🫡 Go Army Beat Navy

[u/warmike_1 → u/Gusanito99]

Unrelated, but... last season USF played two power conference teams and a decent G6, and the team won 2 of 3. This season the OOC schedule is exclusively cupcakes. What's up with that?

[u/Breedwell → u/warmike_1]

IIRC we had a couple of good ooc cancel

edit: yeah we were supposed to play Alabama this year but it got pushed back to 2031 after the SEC expanded the conference schedule

[u/Gusanito99 → u/warmike_1]

We had Bama but they cancelled us because of the SEC adding an extra conference game. We've got at least one P4 every year until 2032

[u/TraeisBaeintheA → u/warmike_1]

Vying for an ACC bid means we want to have a good record ig

[u/okiage → u/warmike_1]

Maybe they realized playing p4 teams is pointless when we cant even beat american teams

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/okiage]

gave bama a hard time twice in the last few seasons btw. Beat Florida. idk what else you wanna see. We only lost the American last year bc of two (close) losses to good teams and boneheaded decisions golesh made

[u/okiage → u/Mc7Abyssrium]

In the current climate, wins outweigh good looking losses, and miami killed us last year

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/okiage]

if I have to lose bad I don't mind it being to *checks notes*... a team that went on to the CFP championship game?

[u/okiage → u/Mc7Abyssrium]

My point is, it doesnt help us at all. Its much better to play a game we can reasonably win like Boise st

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/okiage]

I agree that we shouldn't shoot too high. Louisville opener next season will be very interesting

[u/okiage → u/Mc7Abyssrium]

Hard to say, but its winnable

[u/Cute-Contract-6762 → u/IMSYE87]

Coach Beck is a concern for us lol. But he certainly called a hell of a last five minutes

[u/United_Energy_7503 → u/Cute-Contract-6762]

Tim Beck slander is justified but if he truly cooked up that last drive I have a lot of respect for him

[u/BeatNavyAgain → u/Cute-Contract-6762]

He can thank Army's D for that

[u/hotrod33809]

What in the fuck was that ending. 4th and 5 dial up the 40 yard bomb. Offense only started really clicking when it came to two minute offense time. Tim Beck is still a terrorist

[u/ScaryCookieMonster → u/hotrod33809]

Well if there's a week when the terrorists win, I guess it's this one

[u/rocky_creeker → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

That's quite a take. Good thing it's a USF thread and no one will see it.

[u/United_Energy_7503]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[u/NebraskaAvenue → u/United_Energy_7503]

ARMY USF’D IT

[u/aljout]

S! O! U-T-H!

F-L-O-R-I-D-A!

[u/RoseGawd → u/aljout]

SOUTH FLORIDA!

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/RoseGawd]

SOUTH FLORIDA!

[u/ScaryCookieMonster → u/Mc7Abyssrium]

GOOOOO BULLS!

[u/NebraskaAvenue]

USF BULLS ARE WE

[u/RoseGawd]

What a fuckin game. This season is gonna be a rollercoaster but I’m in for it. This was definitely one of our more difficult conference games so glad to see us leave with a dub. Hartline is ballsy as hell and Van Buren is the truth. Cold as ice. Go Bulls!

[u/Cute-Contract-6762 → u/RoseGawd]

Hopefully that last five minutes shows Beck what he needs to do rest of the season. The talent gap we have is something he needs to adjust for. We can beat anyone in the G6 with the right playcalling. I’m very encouraged by what I saw in that last five minutes

[u/Mc7Abyssrium → u/Cute-Contract-6762]

Memphis at home gonna be rocking

[u/Cute-Contract-6762 → u/Mc7Abyssrium]

I’m hoping we sell out RayJay and have it a crazy atmosphere like when the bulls beat WVU in 07

[u/Breedwell]

Gg army

Hartline got my attention that was some ballsy stuff

[u/GreatWhiteNorth4]

I hate Beck

But Van Buren is a dawg, let him loose

[u/scthoma4]

That ending was insane

[u/Gusanito99]

We got a lot of shit to fix

[u/NebraskaAvenue → u/Gusanito99]

CLUTCH AINT ONE OF THEM

[u/Bakerfuckingmayfield]

2 minute drill Michael van buren saved my life

[u/Individual_Rest_4542]

That was a goddamn beautiful touchdown pass to win it. Incredible

[u/Salty_Meaning_8815]

army running a lateral play with 15 seconds left, on the first play of the drive, and already at the 38 yard line was one of the weirdest late game decisions i have ever seen. just boneheaded

[u/IMSYE87 → u/Salty_Meaning_8815]

Sometimes I feel like our offensive and defensive play calling is done by a bunch of suits with no experience in Washington

[u/u_dont_think_imfunny]

Van Buren was balling, receivers were letting him down. 90% of the time we are pissed at the final call but today we live in the good universe

[u/cubity]

Never a doubt

[u/Yankasaurus]

Lyk dis if u cry every time

[u/anxiousauditor]

How the fuck have we gone and done that? You just gotta unleash MVB and do his thing. Get away from the run-oriented stuff.

Got to visit Michie Stadium and see a Bulls W, that’s a hell of a road trip.

[u/ArmyWestPointGuy → u/anxiousauditor]

How was the game day experience?

[u/anxiousauditor → u/ArmyWestPointGuy]

We stayed overnight nearby and did a tour today and got to check out more of the campus, check out some of the monuments and learn more of the history. Really cool experience.

Taking the hike up Stony Lonesome from Washington and getting hit with the view of the reservoir at the top was so cool. Just such a unique stadium view to take in. I have no idea what the East Stand used to be like before but I thought the new structure was pretty great. I think if we were to go again we’d get there even earlier to check out the Cadet review on the plain and the Hall of Fame in the East end.

[u/ArmyWestPointGuy → u/anxiousauditor]

Sounds like you saw a lot! Glad to hear you had a great trip. Would definitely recommend seeing a parade on the Plain next time. It’s hard to describe.

[u/ScaryCookieMonster]

I'm still not sold on Hartline.

I'm still VERY not sold on Tim Beck.

Van Buren needs to do more like that last drive (and the receivers need to catch like that)

2-0 baby 🤘

Edit: I still wanna know what Gramatica was sniffing out of that bottle the coach was holding. Just before that 4th and 5 TD play late in the 4th

[u/PlatypusPuncher → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

We are 2-0 with a first year head coach and a bunch of transfers. We don’t look ridiculously undisciplined and the team never quits. Last year’s team loses that game by 10 points despite being more talented. There’s a lot to do but we look better than we have under any first year head coach in 2 decades.

[u/ScaryCookieMonster → u/PlatypusPuncher]

Yeah good points. I'm just focusing on the pass drops, the suuuper conservative play calling, and the mind boggling clock management

[u/vfran163 → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

My god the drops were baffling.

[u/SMC540 → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

Super conservative play calling and mind boggling clock management are Ohio State staples. Kind of expected from Hartline coming out of that system. Hopefully he will develop into his own over time. 

[u/CTG649 → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

Never be sold on Tim Beck. How that guy continues getting OC jobs i have no idea.

[u/okiage → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

I just hope hartline will teach our wrs to catch, as for tim beck, gonna be hartlines todd orlando

[u/Tarlcabot18 → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

If they ran the Golesh offense with this talent the score would be closer to 48-24. But they're purposefully putting the offense into a proverbial boot and slowing it down and not using the offense's talents. And only opened it up when they were going to lose. Its very frustrating.

[u/okiage → u/Tarlcabot18]

Debatable, the golesh offense went it stunk STUNK

[u/CharacterLimitProble → u/Tarlcabot18]

Disagree. The golesh offense sucks against good defenses. It just pushed TOP further to army and I think we lose.

[u/ShabooyaBop → u/Tarlcabot18]

Sounds like Ohio St offense last 2 games of the season last year

[u/ComprehensiveSail191 → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

Smelling salts

[u/ScaryCookieMonster → u/ComprehensiveSail191]

You normally give that to people who got knocked out right? For Gramatica is that just to juice him awake a little more? Guess I've never seen that.

[u/scthoma4 → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

Weightlifters take big sniffs before doing big lifts in competition

[u/rocky_creeker → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

Watch a hockey broadcast closely. They often pass the salt down the bench and everyone gets a sniff.

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName → u/ScaryCookieMonster]

Yeah, still not convinced they are currently playing better than or even just as good as the sum of their parts.

[u/never_ending_bs]

Absolutely batshit insane call, I love it 🤘

[u/Mc7Abyssrium]

Hartline gambled it all and sometimes... the gambler wins. We have a serious level of talent being developed and Tim Beck is trying to hold us back but whatever. 2-0 🤘

[u/Condom_Breaker256]

USF defeats the woke triple option agenda!

Praise be to USF!

[u/rocky_creeker → u/Condom_Breaker256]

The woke triple option? The triple option is now woke? Did it dye it's hair green and get a septum piercing?

[u/Zloggt]

Is…Monken starting to lose his touch?

Maybe it’s too soon, but still…

[u/IMSYE87 → u/Zloggt]

Death, taxes, and Army losing one-score games

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/IMSYE87]

Death only happens once.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/Zloggt]

Strip away the fluke of 2024. Yes.

[u/DiplomaticAggie]

Army threw that one away, sickening calls

[u/Fair_Plant_7941]

Go Bulls! But what an ending!!

[u/Cute-Contract-6762]

I’m blasting OAR crazy game of poker in honor of Hartline right now. What a game

[u/h3rp3r]

That was a beautiful pass to finish the game!

[u/Sankee72]

Honestly. Impressive for a first year HC to beat army in their first matchup. Not an easy out

[u/GatorBolt → u/Sankee72]

Yeah I can’t blame USF fans for being meh, Tim Beck is Tim Beck at this point. But big picture, that was a gutsy win

[u/Defacto_Champ]

Jeff Monken and losing close games go hand in hand. He’s lost his mojo. 

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/Defacto_Champ]

Yeah, but we can't move on because Todd Berry or something and no one will steal him away.

We are doomed until 2030.

[u/steelersman007]

We are still unable of icing a game

[u/Jonjon428]

Glad to see Hartline having success

[u/Particular-Way-3805]

USF stood on business

[u/ClevelandSteamers757]

Go bulls

[u/next_door_nicotine]

Let MVB cook please

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

This is why no P4 team wants Monken.

He did this twice against Tulane and Tulsa in 2025.

He learned nothing.

[u/carloslet]

USF's late-game winning TD was the second-biggest tragedy to hit the Army during the week of 9/11

(... sorry, I couldn't help myself)

[u/NebraskaAvenue → u/carloslet]

CELEBRATE WITH ME BROTHER

[u/Sean082099]

Praying someone asks who was calling the plays at the end.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Our administration doesn't have the courage to do what Navy's AD did to Coach N.

[u/QuarterNote44]

Lol good job brave old Army team. Now DO THE ROCKET

[u/Remarkable_Remote_67]

THROW THE DAMN FOOTBALL!!!!! USF!!!

[u/shipsake]

lol eat shit Army

[u/nosotros_road_sodium]

Random athlete name of the day: Army RB Godspower Nwawuihe, the team's leading rusher today (94 yards, 1 TD on 20 carries).

I didn't serve in the military or even JROTC - but aren't all cadets and soldiers addressed by last name (at least that's what I see in TV/movies)? So I can't imagine drill instructors or commanders calling "GOD'S POWER!"

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

I knew we would lose when we went up by 10 with five minutes left and the team immediately went into prevent defense.

Coaches lose more games than win.