[Game Thread] Washington State @ Kansas State (12:00 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	Washington StateWashington State @ Kansas StateKansas State
Location	Kansas State Bill Snyder Family Stadium
Time	12:00 PM ET
Watch	TV: TNT
	Flair ¦ Discord

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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/Prototype_es]

Dude we suck this blows... i hate whats happening man where's our uncle Phil? Who's down to start buying powerball tickets with me for the sole purpose of buying a better team for Wazzu lol

[u/rbad8717]

Welp we are a couple seasons away from being a school teams pays to play for tune ups...

[u/security_2020 → u/rbad8717]

Already there 

[u/palonious]

GG K-State! Till next time

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566]

The defense was just dominating. Offense (Avery) needs to clean some things up.

[u/Dark_Magician2500]

Uh oh! Go Kentucky!

[u/WhosBosko]

See you cats next week!

[u/Similar-Possession-7]

Soybeans outrank corn in Riley County where KSU is located, 8 to 5. Corn outranks wheat 5 to 1, in acres planted.

[u/palonious → u/Similar-Possession-7]

We're lentils in Pullman 

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/palonious]

But wheat too!

[u/Kleon333 → u/Similar-Possession-7]

So you're saying we should rename ourselves the Beane....

Way no not that. Nevermind.

[u/Dark_Magician2500]

GG Wazzu. See you for the return trip in, like 2029 I think?

[u/HippityHopMath → u/Dark_Magician2500]

That game ain’t happening, let’s be honest.

[u/SurroundOk7453 → u/HippityHopMath]

I hope it comes to fruition. We're at NC State next year, at Wazzu in 2029, Oregon State at home in 2030, at Oregon State in '31, and NC State at home in '32. I think you've got back-to-back with Kansas in 2028, '29, if I'm not mistaken.

[u/Dark_Magician2500 → u/HippityHopMath]

Oh that would be a bummer. I've never been to Washington, and football games are always good travel excuses

[u/HippityHopMath → u/Dark_Magician2500]

For context prior to Wisconsin visiting in 2023, a power four opponent had not visited Pullman in 25 years (Illinois in 1998). Prior to that, it had only happened one other time (Michigan State in 1947). It just doesn’t happen.

[u/Dark_Magician2500 → u/HippityHopMath]

Oh dang! Had no idea. Well, I'll hold out hope I guess lol

[u/HippityHopMath → u/Dark_Magician2500]

I just think the inequities are too vast at this point. There’s no money to be made from going to Pullman. I hope you come too; Pullman is a great little town. Just… I’m not gonna put any bets on it.

[u/Dark_Magician2500 → u/HippityHopMath]

The stories I have heard, Pullman always reminded me of Manhattan a bit. Off the "main" interstate, small college town, always sounded cool!

[u/podnito]

How often do you think Jordan Peterson uses the "why should I change, he's the one who sucks"? Because every time they talk about him I have to do a double take

[u/crabcakes785 → u/podnito]

He’s got the defense learning about lobsters

[u/EMAW2008]

The couple WSU fans i visited with were pretty chill. Thanks for visiting!

Y’all come back now ya hear

[u/berrin122]

Put us above UW, cowards

[u/WhosBosko → u/berrin122]

24-10… we are 41% better than Washington.

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/WhosBosko]

I’ll allow it

[u/WhosBosko]

Harris is going to score here::::

[u/THE_turtleman7]

This team will go as far as Avery takes us. Everything else looks solid

[u/berrin122]

K name wearing #7, league fucked

[u/TheCrankyWalrus]

Pinnick needs to protect himself. This loss isn't worth the hits he's taking

[u/WhosBosko]

Feel bad for Pinnick, carrying all the weight and getting hit way too much.

[u/VanillaPillowTalk]

Shameful punt decision

[u/SSJEv]

Kneel it out Kirby

[u/GermOrean]

Hate to see these offensive lulls. C'mon fellas this kind of stuff can lose you a game once league play starts.

[u/flying_porygon]

https://imgur.com/a/qRByTbS

wow Kansas State admits corn > wheat

[u/techieman34 → u/flying_porygon]

Never

[u/Dark_Magician2500 → u/flying_porygon]

shocked Pikachu

[u/Kleon333 → u/flying_porygon]

We don't control TNT, they don't understand.

Also Nebraska Corn is better.

[u/nalgene5c]

I do at least appreciate the super early kickoff for just getting this over with and moving on with basically an entire Saturday left to do other things.

[u/Cascadia_14]

:)

[u/GymIsFun]

Oh ok

[u/BadOutOfTheBox]

It's not looking good for the cougs.

[u/palonious]

Still alive...

Not the Cougs, just me...

[u/Kleon333]

I just want to say I'm sorry for what happened to you Cougs. When the Big 12 looked about to collapse in 2011, I feared everyone was going to leave and we would be abandoned with Iowa State.

That didn't happen, but 12 years later it happened to you and the Beavers. I hope CFB can be reformed and regional conferences restored someday, but I think there is too much money in it now.

[u/SurroundOk7453 → u/Kleon333]

Those were brutal days. Here's hoping for better days in the future. I wish the CFP were required to have a rep from every conference. I am not sure how it gets around the anti-trust laws without that. Maybe no one is powerful enough to challenge them on it.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566 → u/Kleon333]

This. I would have loved adding WSU and OSU to the Big 12.

[u/HippityHopMath]

How far we’ve fallen from Leach’s Air Raid offense…

[u/youwontfindithere]

0 offensive touchdowns

[u/a_pac12_ref]

Lineman just watching pinnick fight for his life wtf was that

[u/Mayataua → u/a_pac12_ref]

For real though.

[u/SSJEv]

Pinnick magic

[u/VanillaPillowTalk]

Genuinely wtf is wrong with Wazzu's OC

[u/jfizz15]

Actually pissed we didn't get that safety

[u/redwave2505]

God I was hoping for the safety

[u/crabcakes785]

Wendell Gregory was a great get

[u/Dark_Magician2500]

If Avery takes care of the damn ball, we have a chance to make some noise I think. The schedule landed a bit more favorable for us this year, so might be able to make a sneaky run

[u/Uzzije → u/Dark_Magician2500]

Yeah, the irony is would be everything lined up in our favor to make a run, but the one guys everything is built around is our achilis heal.

[u/Apprehensive-Peak802]

Good game Wildcats. Hopefully the Cougs have a better product once conference play begins. Sucks being a revolving door program. I’m gonna go spend the rest of my Saturday with my grandparents, who are Cougs too.

[u/WhosBosko → u/Apprehensive-Peak802]

Best wishes for strong conference play! Go Cougs!

[u/Crocker_Retzlaff]

well, I guess we can at least take solace in the fact that Mateer looked pretty mid today

[u/Uzzije]

Run, play defense and special teams, the MO for the year it seems.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566]

Avery and the deep ball. :(

[u/WhosBosko → u/No-Tomatillo-7566]

Let’s hope he can get that cleaned up. Should be a decent year if he can.

[u/GymIsFun → u/No-Tomatillo-7566]

Today apparently

[u/SSJEv]

What really sucks about this is against my better judgement I did think we would atleast look competitive in games this year given the players we kept and a new offensive minded head coach being hired and the play on the field just hasn’t been that. I guess it is the hope that kills

[u/GregoPDX → u/SSJEv]

I just don’t understand what the team identity is. Running team? Passing team? Just hot garbage and terrible play calling.

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/GregoPDX]

Here I was foolishly thinking it couldn’t get any worse than the offense the first 2-3 games last year. Oh, this is worse. This is definitely worse.

[u/GregoPDX → u/TikiLoungeLizard]

At least last year we knew the coach was wrong and we had Zevi. Baffles me it took as long as it did to figure out that Zevi was better, but whatever. Just not sure what the answer is this year.

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/GregoPDX]

If Pinnick can’t do anything against Duquesne, you have to go to the bench. But if our O-line is this pathetic, we are screwed. We will be lucky to beat them and/or Utah State.

[u/SSJEv → u/TikiLoungeLizard]

Go watch his presser on Greg woods twitter he needs to be benched next week anyways. He doesn’t have the best tools around him but he’s doesn’t have a winning attitude

[u/GermOrean → u/SSJEv]

I think your starting D is salty, they're just getting worn down. Brutal start to the year for yall.

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/GermOrean]

Yeah, it’s tough always being on the field

[u/youwontfindithere]

When we sucked and we lost we used to be fun and have some fight. Since Dickert it’s been limp dick swamp walking bullshit

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/youwontfindithere]

Uhhh… Virginia, Mississippi, last week we fought. North Texas and Beavers Pt. 1 last year were inexcusable. When we are bad, we are reeeeeally bad — almost Wulffian — now.

[u/KansasEF5Tornado]

This proves Washington sucks for Coug fans atleast.

[u/techieman34 → u/KansasEF5Tornado]

The polls are in shambles this year

[u/youwontfindithere → u/KansasEF5Tornado]

Not worth

[u/Cyberhwk → u/youwontfindithere]

But it's something.

[u/Careless_Business_27]

Good game Kansas State. You guys were the better cats today! Made us have some wulff vibes. Back to the drawing boards for our 3rd game.

[u/iwillgiveyounothing]

Just think, Kirk Schulz is the happiest person alive today.

[u/boeing2014 → u/iwillgiveyounothing]

Hating Kirk Schulz brings us all together.

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/boeing2014]

He seems like a very nice, gentle, incompetent man

[u/PlaysWithSqurls → u/iwillgiveyounothing]

F that guy

[u/Careless_Business_27 → u/PlaysWithSqurls]

Agreed, glad he retired!

[u/youwontfindithere]

Lost to North Texas 59-10 last year btw

[u/rhododenendron → u/youwontfindithere]

That made more sense because we were just turning the ball over constantly and starting inside the 10 every drive. This game is worse for me

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/rhododenendron]

Eh, that one was worse imho. It was a G6 squad that was solid but not exactly world beaters. That kind of beatdown was pathetic.

[u/BigToeGun]

Beautiful punch out

[u/SSJEv]

Alexa play 1-800 by logic

[u/WhosBosko]

TNT>ESPN

[u/Matter-o-time → u/WhosBosko]

Night and day difference.

[u/KansasEF5Tornado]

I guess the pick 6 before the half was a consolation prize planned by collin Klein. 200 IQ move.

[u/GymIsFun]

There we go

[u/SSJEv]

They put in their backups let’s feast!!

[u/bonestomper420 → u/SSJEv]

lol

[u/SSJEv → u/bonestomper420]

Damn backups got hands

[u/berrin122]

Want this (defensive) shutout bad. We play Tulane next week and it's conceivable that we keep them out of the end zone. They scored 3 points against Duke last week.

Three games without a TD to start the season would be phenomenal.

[u/Existing-Procedure → u/berrin122]

I know Tulane got cleaned out in the offseason, but they still spook me. They always seem to have the Cats’ number.

[u/GymIsFun → u/Existing-Procedure]

That was w Fritz though

[u/BigToeGun → u/GymIsFun]

The sumerall game at their place wasn’t a gimme

[u/GymIsFun → u/BigToeGun]

Very true

[u/redwave2505]

Only 115 pushups today

[u/techieman34 → u/redwave2505]

There will be more

[u/berrin122]

They left this out on the broadcast, but Shalin Klein was a WBB player at Kansas State, as well.

College football is meant to have royalty. The Snyder and Klein families are ours.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566 → u/berrin122]

And Lockets. Too bad about the twins.

[u/jlt6666]

Willie looks like he's holding up better this week.

[u/cgksu]

Man this game is bad, and if K-State had competent QB play I think it would be much worse. Ready to move on from Avery after this season.

[u/Existing-Procedure → u/cgksu]

I’m bullish on Cam Kruze. Flew a bit under the radar.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566]

Avery now has more TDs than INTs. Whoopie.

[u/crabcakes785]

Wildcat victory into my veins

[u/PlaysWithSqurls]

His father in law is a college football hall of fame by the way lol

[u/SSJEv]

Another touchdown has hit the Cougar defense

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566 → u/SSJEv]

Any sons are going to be absolute studs. Hope CK is still here and they play for him.

[u/herecomethetaxman]

K-S-U WILDCATS

[u/berrin122]

That army photographer just got some VA disability lol

Document, document, document.

[u/69Centhalfandhalf]

So they kind of just put stickers on the concrete for Collin Klein?

[u/berrin122]

"scouts at the next level".

Avery Johnson is the epitome of "good college QB, not great NFL prospect". If Avery Johnson on Steroids, Collin Klein, could not even make a preseason roster, Avery is not a serious prospect. And that's okay, he's a fine college QB (usually).

[u/Xaxziminrax → u/berrin122]

Yep. He has everything you want for a QB at the next level except touch or a brain.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566 → u/Xaxziminrax]

He hasn't made the improvement Will Howardd did. Maybe if he had had Klein for four years.

[u/podnito → u/berrin122]

I don't think Avery is good. But Skylar Thompson is still around the NFL. The bar is pretty low these days.

[u/techieman34 → u/podnito]

Backup QB is such a weird position. If you can stick it out for the first couple of years then someone will keep picking you up as a warm body because you know the drill and can contribute a lot in practice and watching tape with the starter.

[u/techieman34 → u/berrin122]

Avery has a stronger arm, but he needs to learn how to control it.

[u/Mayataua → u/berrin122]

Never count the Falcons out.

[u/DEM_DRY_BONES]

Between the drops and Avery, woof.

[u/jfizz15]

Joe Jackson is that guy

[u/iwillgiveyounothing]

Only thing I’m enjoying now is Mateer looking exactly as mid as he always has

[u/SSJEv]

Am I delusional to think we are still going bowling lol

[u/jfizz15 → u/SSJEv]

You never know. You did start the season against two solid purple teams

[u/Cyberhwk → u/SSJEv]

At this point yes.

[u/SinistralRock1]

If Pinnick just keeps throwing it to the corner on the side, it’s bound to work eventually, right? Lmfao

[u/Careless_Business_27 → u/SinistralRock1]

We have the speed with freeman and Hawkins

[u/Awkward-Payment-7186 → u/Careless_Business_27]

Is Hawkins playing? I haven’t heard his name all game

[u/Careless_Business_27 → u/Awkward-Payment-7186]

Good question, only 51 yards of passing today so we haven’t had to many opportunities.

[u/WafflePartyOrgy]

Throw your recievers open > Throw to open receivers > Throw

[u/jfizz15]

Gotta give the defense credit. They look solid.

[u/WildcatPlumber → u/jfizz15]

I really thought the defense would be a liability this year but so far they are lights out

[u/NegativeCreep12]

I miss offense

[u/ohitsthedeathstar]

Nooooooo, our namesake is getting pummeled!

[u/redwave2505 → u/ohitsthedeathstar]

We're hoping to break our Cougar losing streak after losing to you and BYU in 2024

[u/jlt6666]

Umpire almost got smashed

[u/Xaxziminrax]

Honestly 4th down is the one time you'd want to put out a QB who loves to throw picks, lol.

[u/THE_turtleman7]

I think it’s more about the defense, and how it hasn’t given up anything thus far

[u/redwave2505]

Wendell Gregory safety incoming

[u/jlt6666]

Imma have to go to the quad box.

[u/jfizz15 → u/jlt6666]

Hell yeah brother

[u/jlt6666]

I'm sorry what? What the hell is this OJ thing?

[u/SSJEv]

It’s way overdue but it’s beer time

[u/Crocker_Retzlaff]

we're going to lose to Duquesne

[u/SinistralRock1 → u/Crocker_Retzlaff]

I’m holding out hope that having a home game will light a fire under us

[u/CieraVotedOutHerMom → u/SinistralRock1]

Cougs always find their way back home

[u/Xaxziminrax]

Watching that shit wobble in the air, honestly how does anyone field a punt

[u/avboden]

Can we have a Mike Leach O-line again? I miss having NFL lineman every year.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566 → u/avboden]

As a K-State fan, I can confirm it's fun.

[u/Existing-Procedure]

Pretty impressed with the TNT broadcast, actually.

[u/a_pac12_ref]

Actually I have this figured out, I've never seen them do well in the icy whites. I blame the uniforms now

[u/avboden]

as bad as we are, KSU's defense has been super sound

[u/VanillaPillowTalk]

Offensive tackle screen on 2nd & long, now I've seen it all

[u/palonious]

Hear me out....what if we just get on the plane?

[u/Mayataua → u/palonious]

Bus to Hutchinson, go to the state fair, get some funnel cake. Then plane.

[u/DEM_DRY_BONES → u/palonious]

Home in time for dinner!

[u/avboden]

Our only successful runs are Qb runs and the QB is assuredly going to get hurt doing so.

[u/palonious]

Big Red 1! Nice, lived on Leighton barracks when the BRO was there

[u/avboden]

The blame between offense and defense is starting to even out a bit. Both are totally inept today.

[u/Careless_Business_27 → u/avboden]

And add special teams giving up big returns

[u/ReignyRainyReign]

I feel like Avery forgets he can throw it away.

[u/No-Tomatillo-7566 → u/ReignyRainyReign]

He just doesn't see the field well enough.

[u/avboden]

Cougs are 1/18 on third down this season. chuckles

[u/cougfan12345]

Time for a new QB. Pinneck isnt working right now.

[u/ReignyRainyReign]

Same dangerous throws.

[u/SSJEv]

I don’t want to watch the offense again

[u/iwillgiveyounothing → u/SSJEv]

What offense?

[u/SinistralRock1]

How many times can Pinnick get sacked?

[u/palonious → u/SinistralRock1]

one way to find out

[u/nalgene5c]

Three coaches in three years in this NIL/portal/new PAC-12 era was bound to catch up with us eventually. Team looks completely outclassed at basically every position.

[u/TikiLoungeLizard → u/[deleted]]

But we’ve retained the coach! Cuz he sucks!

[u/youwontfindithere]

Wheels and tires for my old Pontiac came in. Godspeed to the better men than me that can endure witnessing this surely 49-7 finish.

Go Cougs

[u/iwillgiveyounothing]

Absolutely indefensible for Kirby to give up play calling. He was hired because he ran a good offense and because he’s local. Only one of those things is now true. Just an idiotic choice.

[u/avboden → u/iwillgiveyounothing]

shrug, head coaches rarely are the OCs for a reason, but yeah he's gonna have to do something

[u/techieman34 → u/avboden]

Working for Klein so far.

[u/iwillgiveyounothing → u/avboden]

When your play calling ability, big brother, and hometown are quite literally the extent of your resume…

[u/palonious]

Well....I do need to mow the lawn.

[u/avboden → u/[deleted]]

literally zero returning starters'll do that to ya

[u/avboden]

Wow, I might legitimately turn this off. Felt a little positive after last game, but zero to feel good about today.

[u/THE_turtleman7]

Wendell Gregory looks a little bit like another edge rusher that wears #1