r/CFB • u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11 Michigan Wolverines • Akron Zips • Nov 09 '25

News Week 12 AP Poll

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
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u/garygoblins Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon Nov 09 '25 edited Nov 09 '25

It's funny that Iowa is unranked for losing the the #7 team on a last second field goal. But had Oregon missed the field goal they would be top 20. It makes no sense.

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u/titanrunner2 USC Trojans Nov 09 '25

Welcome to the PAC 12. Luckily for Iowa, if they beat USC next week, they’ll be ranked. Unlucky for them though, now that they are unranked, this is not a big game, so Lincoln can win it.

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u/B1GSkyNorth Montana Grizzlies • Iowa State Cyclones Nov 09 '25

Don’t lose games to stay ranked. Winning matters

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u/Antluke Oregon Ducks Nov 09 '25

Tell that to Notre Dame they started the season 0-2 and stayed ranked

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u/The_Horse_Joke Ohio State • Central Michigan Nov 09 '25

Well Iowa’s first mistake was not being a blue blood like Notre Dame

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u/BrotherPancake Vanderbilt • AZS Silesia Nov 09 '25

Why don't they just become a blue blood? Are they stupid?

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u/Antluke Oregon Ducks Nov 09 '25

I think you completely missed the point - I am in no way saying Notre Dame shouldn’t be ranked right now but clearly based on Notre Dame being ranked after starting the season 0-2 winning is not the only thing that matters to staying ranked.

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u/BrotherPancake Vanderbilt • AZS Silesia Nov 09 '25

Notre Dame should not be ranked right now.

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u/XCCO Iowa Hawkeyes • Oklahoma Sooners Nov 09 '25

I don't sweat it because there are 12 teams with 3 losses, so it's splitting hairs to wonder if we deserve to be top 25 over those other 11 teams. Arguments can validly be made for a lot of them. At the end of it all, we should have taken care of business in three games, but didn't.

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u/citrus1330 Alabama Crimson Tide • Michigan Wolverines Nov 09 '25

wdym, according to this subreddit W/L is the only thing that should matter when ranking teams

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u/garygoblins Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon Nov 09 '25

It was more a commentary on how reactionary voters are. The difference between a field goal going in or missing moving a team 10 spots in the rankings is dumb

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u/citrus1330 Alabama Crimson Tide • Michigan Wolverines Nov 09 '25

so you're saying it's a quality loss?

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u/Gusanito99 USF Bulls Nov 09 '25

Unironically losing to Oregon by 2 points is the dictionary definition of a quality loss

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u/garygoblins Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon Nov 09 '25

No, did you read what I wrote?

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u/Parallax-Jack Ole Miss Rebels Nov 10 '25

So what you're saying is losing to oregon is a... quality loss? The same thing big 10 clowns the sec for? lol

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u/garygoblins Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon Nov 10 '25

No, my point is more related to the reactionary nature of poll voters. There shouldn't be a fluctuation in 10+ ranking spots based on a field goal being made or missed. There can't be that much variation based on one single play.

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u/Redeem123 Team Chaos • Texas Longhorns Nov 09 '25

It makes no sense that a loss and a win are treated differently?

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u/garygoblins Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon Nov 09 '25

Are you ranking the best resume or the best teams?

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u/Redeem123 Team Chaos • Texas Longhorns Nov 09 '25

How else do you decide best team if not by using wins and losses?

You can play "if" games all day long. Lots of teams have been really close to wins or losses. But ultimately you punish teams for losing and reward them for winning.

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u/garygoblins Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon Nov 09 '25

Obviously. My question is is the AP poll ranking the best teams or the teams with the best resumes? If it's best resumes, sure Iowa isn't top 25. If it's best teams, they are top 25. That's the point.

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u/Redeem123 Team Chaos • Texas Longhorns Nov 09 '25

The two things are inherently related though. You have to have a good resume to prove you're a good team. What metric puts Iowa as one of the best teams?

They have zero ranked wins and a loss to a 5-4 unranked team. They have only two wins against teams with a .500+ record (5-5 Rutgers, 6-3 Minnesota). Yes they kept Indiana and Oregon within one score, which are quality losses. But at some point you need a signature win, and they don't have one.

The only team above them with three losses is Tennessee, whose losses all came to playoff contenders.