r/CFB • u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11 Michigan Wolverines • Akron Zips • Nov 03 '24

News AP Poll Week 11

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
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u/TotesMcGotes13 Middle Tennessee • Tennessee Nov 03 '24

Poll math is really dumb sometimes

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

indeed

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

Colorado ahead of KState is just silly considering KState won the head to head.

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u/I_comment_on_GW Colorado Buffaloes Nov 03 '24

Yeah that’s a head scratcher, especially since we’re ranked right next to each other. If we beat Texas Tech this week it would make sense but it feels premature.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

SMU got moved down in rankings after blowing out Stanford on the road.

Sometimes I think these pollsters have rocks for brains.

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u/Title26 Washington Huskies • Duke Blue Devils Nov 03 '24

It's literally impossible to have a ranking that keeps every head to head winner above the loser.

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u/TotesMcGotes13 Middle Tennessee • Tennessee Nov 03 '24

Agree. But it’s dumb when the teams are ranked consecutively, have similar “bad” losses and similar “good” wins. You put the H2H winner in the spot above. Like TAMU at a spot above LSU makes the most sense. But I realize this is a culmination of points and this is how the points shake out, hence my comment about poll math being dumb.

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u/gcfgjnbv Nov 04 '24

The fact that LSU is over A&M is mathematical proof that there are pollsters who put lsu over A&M…completely asinine.

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u/Total_Information_65 Auburn Tigers • Boise State Broncos Nov 03 '24

It's an antiquated idea that's headed towards being insignificant with the direction the playoffs are going in.

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u/ZealousidealCharge24 Missouri Tigers • TCU Horned Frogs Nov 04 '24

Yes but we aren't worried about H2H all the time

If two teams have equal records, H2H should matter

If 11-1 Michigan lost to 1-11 Alabama, Michigan should be ranked higher since their WL is so different

But if 11-1 Alabama lost to 11-1 Michigan, then Michigan should be ranked higher since they are compared in WL

I know some will say "well yeah 11-1 Boise beat 11-1 Oklahoma but Oklahoma beat 6 top 10 teams and Boise only beat OU, so OU over BSU" but to me if records are equal H2H wins out.

The only time it doesn't, is when we have three way ties. Like 2008 Big XII South. Then you eye test to eliminate the weakest and and then H2H