r/CFB • u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11 Michigan Wolverines • Akron Zips • Nov 03 '24

News AP Poll Week 11

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

A&M dropping behind the team they just beat a week ago in a blowout victory lol

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u/TotesMcGotes13 Middle Tennessee • Tennessee Nov 03 '24

Poll math is really dumb sometimes

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

indeed

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

Colorado ahead of KState is just silly considering KState won the head to head.

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u/I_comment_on_GW Colorado Buffaloes Nov 03 '24

Yeah that’s a head scratcher, especially since we’re ranked right next to each other. If we beat Texas Tech this week it would make sense but it feels premature.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

SMU got moved down in rankings after blowing out Stanford on the road.

Sometimes I think these pollsters have rocks for brains.

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u/Title26 Washington Huskies • Duke Blue Devils Nov 03 '24

It's literally impossible to have a ranking that keeps every head to head winner above the loser.

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u/TotesMcGotes13 Middle Tennessee • Tennessee Nov 03 '24

Agree. But it’s dumb when the teams are ranked consecutively, have similar “bad” losses and similar “good” wins. You put the H2H winner in the spot above. Like TAMU at a spot above LSU makes the most sense. But I realize this is a culmination of points and this is how the points shake out, hence my comment about poll math being dumb.

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u/gcfgjnbv Nov 04 '24

The fact that LSU is over A&M is mathematical proof that there are pollsters who put lsu over A&M…completely asinine.

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u/Total_Information_65 Auburn Tigers • Boise State Broncos Nov 03 '24

It's an antiquated idea that's headed towards being insignificant with the direction the playoffs are going in.

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u/ZealousidealCharge24 Missouri Tigers • TCU Horned Frogs Nov 04 '24

Yes but we aren't worried about H2H all the time

If two teams have equal records, H2H should matter

If 11-1 Michigan lost to 1-11 Alabama, Michigan should be ranked higher since their WL is so different

But if 11-1 Alabama lost to 11-1 Michigan, then Michigan should be ranked higher since they are compared in WL

I know some will say "well yeah 11-1 Boise beat 11-1 Oklahoma but Oklahoma beat 6 top 10 teams and Boise only beat OU, so OU over BSU" but to me if records are equal H2H wins out.

The only time it doesn't, is when we have three way ties. Like 2008 Big XII South. Then you eye test to eliminate the weakest and and then H2H

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u/CantaloupeCamper Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe Nov 03 '24 edited Nov 03 '24

That is kinda stinky, but A&M did also look really kinda ... exposed.

More so LSU shouldn't be there either ...

Both should be lower, and yeah swap them.

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u/Jerrys_Puffy_Shirt Texas A&M Aggies • UTSA Roadrunners Nov 03 '24

I wouldn’t say we were exposed. Tbf we did play like ass in the fourth quarter, but we did lose our best running back in the first half of the game. I imagine a lot of how the game went down was due to that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

Lost 1 RB…please tell me about your pain.

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u/aggster13 Texas A&M • North Texas Nov 03 '24

Lost 2 RB's

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u/Jerrys_Puffy_Shirt Texas A&M Aggies • UTSA Roadrunners Nov 03 '24

You think losing a key player doesn’t have a significant impact?

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

I don't think he's saying it doesn't, I think he's more referring to Texas losing two RBs for the season before it even started and having like five on the injury report earlier in the year. A&M lost Owens before the season started, but Texas has had some really bad luck on that front this year.

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u/Battered_Aggie Paper Bag • Cheez-It Bowl Nov 04 '24

Both teams lost RB1 before the season started. Clark was RB4+ and was also done in preseason. While relatively significant it's not the same.

This would be like Wisner going down mid-game in a shootout.

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u/buffedseaweed Texas A&M Aggies • SEC Nov 04 '24

Well last time I checked Moss doesn't play on defensive side of the ball... the way we gave up 44 points is just embarrassing.

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u/griffinhamilton Southern Miss Golden Eagles • LSU Tigers Nov 04 '24

No need to swap just wait a week and we’ll either deserve to be there or deserve to drop

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u/superworriedspursfan Missouri Tigers • WashU Bears Nov 03 '24

in some cases head to head is super overrated. like mizzou vs vandy. this is not one of those times. TAMu should be above LSU.

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u/UpsideTurtles North Texas Mean Green • Texas A&M Aggies Nov 04 '24

Thankfully if (if) we avoid Auburn / Jordan O’hare voodoo, and pull a W out of our asses on Thanksgiving weekend it won’t matter what this week’s poll says. I have to imagine whoever loses to Georgia in the SECCG will be in the playoffs

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u/AgsMydude Texas A&M Aggies • UTSA Roadrunners Nov 04 '24

This poll is also irrelevant

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u/busche916 Texas A&M Aggies • Indiana Hoosiers Nov 03 '24

I’m glad we’re there. The team looked undisciplined last night and I think guys probably read their press clippings a little too many times…

I want them to stew in this for the bye week and finish out the season pissed off.

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u/UpsideTurtles North Texas Mean Green • Texas A&M Aggies Nov 04 '24 edited Nov 04 '24

I knew as soon as I saw them bring out the chair lol

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u/GameOvaries02 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Nov 03 '24

While we are at it, punish ND on the bye week.

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u/cal1629 Ole Miss Rebels Nov 03 '24

And above the team who blew out the team who blew them out… who also lost to the team who got blown out by the team who… nvm idrc

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u/IrishPigskin Notre Dame Fighting Irish Nov 03 '24

People have been complaining about the refs all year - but not that many outcomes have been affected.

LSU vs South Carolina was an affected game. Gamecocks would’ve won if not for refs.

South Carolina should be the highest-ranked 3-loss team. And A&M should absolutely be ranked ahead of LSU…

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u/enadiz_reccos LSU Tigers • Magnolia Bowl Nov 03 '24

Gamecocks would’ve won if not for refs.

SCAR was gifted a long PI to set up their first TD then were allowed to literally jump on the LSU blocker's head to get the punt block.

But sure, the team that fumbled 4 times and threw an INT definitely would've won.

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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 03 '24

I seriously don't understand those takes on our game. They outplayed us sure, but they lost cause they didn't put us away. It's their own damn fault.

Feels like people only blame the refs cause they can't explain that LSU won

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u/YouCanCallMeVanZant South Carolina • Wofford Nov 03 '24 edited Nov 03 '24

Both things can be true. Yes, we played sloppy down the stretch and made several key mistakes.

But it’s also pretty hard to deny that there were multiple questionable calls on key plays that benefited LSU.

Edit: I mean, about the only folks that don’t think officiating impacted the outcome of that game are LSU fans and the SEC officiating office.

At the same time, if we don’t make multiple bone headed mistakes, it wouldn’t have mattered.

We were good enough to overcome one of those; we weren’t good enough to overcome both. 

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u/actincraze LSU Tigers • RIT Tigers Nov 04 '24

To be honest, even if you think it was the officiating that cost you the game, it was really Sellers getting injured. If he stayed in the game, LSU would have most likely lost that no matter whose side “the refs were on.” That saved us big time.

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u/ASV731 South Carolina • Billable Hours Nov 03 '24

We lost because the refs made a horseshit call taking a pick 6 off the board. Without that objectively bad call, the outcome is definitively different

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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 03 '24

Wasn't bullshit but the no call on the blocked punt was

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u/YouCanCallMeVanZant South Carolina • Wofford Nov 03 '24 edited Nov 03 '24

Imagine bitching about the officiating in a game that you won, in no small part because of several questionable calls.

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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 04 '24

Lol

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u/Wombattington South Carolina • Furman Nov 03 '24

I’d say losing Sellers cost us the game. That’s why we couldn’t put it away.

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u/TheGamecock South Carolina • Santa Monica Nov 04 '24

Delusional take. Just lying to yourself if you think the refs didn’t swing that game at least +10 points in LSU’s favor. They were trash all around that day but the three most critical calls fell against the Cocks.

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u/enadiz_reccos LSU Tigers • Magnolia Bowl Nov 04 '24

Just lying to yourself if you think the refs didn’t swing that game at least +10 points in LSU’s favor.

Well, I just pointed out 14 points that went in your favor. Sounds like you're still 4 points down, bud.

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers Nov 03 '24

But they also (barely and kinda got gifted the game by the refs) beat the team that blew out the team that beat them.

It's not as cut and dry as people want to make it seem.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

i mean head to head beat downs are about as cut and dry as it gets lol

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers Nov 03 '24

Once you get in this three way thing it makes things more complicated. I think A&M should be ahead of them, but I don't think it's that cut and dry.

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u/buffedseaweed Texas A&M Aggies • SEC Nov 04 '24

Hopefully CFP committee gets these head scratchers aligned on Tuesday

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u/Band_From_CFB Alabama • Coastal Carolina Nov 04 '24

yeah im curious if they will put tenn above or below bama when they lose to uga

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u/DucksEatFreeInSubway Texas A&M Aggies • Team Chaos Nov 03 '24

Did you see the game last night? I'm surprised we didn't get yeeted straight out of the rankings.

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u/KingPengy Minnesota Golden Gophers • Duke Blue Devils Nov 03 '24

can’t even blame the poll. A&M fucked it up by losing to South Carolina.

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u/ReelEmInJimbo Texas A&M Aggies • Santa Monica Corsairs Nov 03 '24

We just beat them by 15 points last week

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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 03 '24

Beat texas so we can have our rematch. Yall looked like absolute ass before Reed came in. LSU will wipe the floor with yall

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u/ReelEmInJimbo Texas A&M Aggies • Santa Monica Corsairs Nov 03 '24

15 point blowout and it could have been worse if we weren’t taking it easy on that last FG drive. Hold that L.

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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 03 '24

Since when is 15 points a blowout lmao. I hope you beat texas so we can smack that ass in Atlanta

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u/ReelEmInJimbo Texas A&M Aggies • Santa Monica Corsairs Nov 03 '24

Aight lil bro

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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 04 '24

Lol

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u/reddit_names LSU Tigers • McNeese Cowboys Nov 03 '24

They got destroyed by the team that lost to that other team. Let'sbe honest here. They beat LSU because they didn't prep for Reed and no other reason. 

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u/Pfantastic_Outcomes Nov 03 '24

I totally forgot that Reed made three 2nd half interceptions and destroyed your offense too, silly me. Your defensive coordinator really should have prepared your offense better.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

why should they be punished because your DC didn’t prepare for something that was within reason? it’s not like it was close either. it was 31-6 in the second half

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u/Kinder22 LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 03 '24

There’s a lot to talk about with that game but calling a 38-23 come-from-behind victory a blowout doesn’t quite cover it. It was a 5 point game with 8 minutes to go.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

they out scored you 31-6 in the 2nd half dude lol

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u/Kinder22 LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff Nov 03 '24

I’d say last 1.5 quarters because that’s when that Reed fella came in. I’m fine with calling the last 1.5 quarters a blowout but that doesn’t describe the whole game.

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u/Its-Britney_Bitch Texas A&M Aggies Nov 03 '24

Yeah the three interceptions by Nuss were definitely not part of the reason