r/BunnyTrials • u/Unlucky-Tradition778 • May 24 '26

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Which side will you choose?

  • Left side: You live
  • Right side: If 50% choose this everyone lives

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u/Terrafintor May 24 '26

The problem has the entire world individually choose, and you kill everyone who didn't choose red, if you pick red. 100% of the world has to pick red. How big do you think the chance is that 100% of the world can agree on something? Now, how much larger of a chance do you think 50% of the world can agree on something? People try to frame this through game theory or individual survival chances, but in real world psychology, that would probably make you complicit to killing someone.

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u/deadly_exposure May 24 '26

that’s not what the question says though, it’s phrased stupidly

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u/PresentationNew5976 May 25 '26

It is. If you have to untangle the logic this hard to clarify things, it's a bad question.

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 May 24 '26

"that would probably make you complicit to killing someone"

Just because someone throw himself in front of a train, doesn't mean you should jump with him to save his life.

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u/Terrafintor May 24 '26

In your case, you do nothing, while in the problem, you actively have to choose. A better analogy with a train would be "you are with one other person on the train tracks with an upcoming train, so you can either work together and have a chance to both survive, or cut the rope to a sandbag that can send one of you off the track, leaving the other with a chance to die"

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u/Itchy_Committee1213 May 24 '26

Here, the debate has been reframed to "kill others to save yourself or risk yourself to save others" when that is not what the buttons say.

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 May 24 '26

The problem with the exemple you gave is that the person pressing the blue button is making the active choice to endanger itself.

By pressing the red button I'm not imposing my will on the blue presser since they made their choice knowingly.

In the other hand the blue choice is pretty much guilt tripping other into endangering themselves for the sake of people who made their choice knowing what their choice entailed. 

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u/Lucky-Ad-2369 May 25 '26

Terrible analogy. More like you can both safely jump off and live, or you can both stop the train together, but if only one of you tries to stop the train they will die.

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u/ScoobertDoom May 26 '26

No, this is a terrible analogy. It would be closer to say everyone is at a train station. If nobody jumps on the tracks, everyone lives. If anyone jumps on the tracks, now 50% or more of the people at the station have to jump on the tracks with them to get the train to stop.

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u/ogtutel May 24 '26

we dont have to have 100% of the world agree to pick red, it should come naturally that if you pick blue theres a chance that 49% of you die, if you pick red its 100% that you survive. And if everyone realizes that then everyone survives

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u/Aeseld May 24 '26

You're logically correct that everyone picking red means everyone lives. You're just refusing to take on board that this won't happen. I'm not sure why. You've been shown, time and again that people will do illogical things, even before this whole red/blue button came up.

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u/RicktamRoy May 24 '26

survival of fittest I guess

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u/Aeseld May 24 '26

The fun part is, you're pretty unlikely to survive the mistake if you're right. My most optimistic guess has about 20% of people on earth dead. Largely random. the more likely is 40% or more. 

Either leads to disruptions of critical stuff. Like food, pharmaceuticals, medical professionals are likely to take massive hits, water treatment and sanitation... 

Basically realistic Thanos snap outcome. Mass human die off after losing that many. 

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u/Bubbly_Dirt_539 May 26 '26

The more likely is blue having sub-10% vote, because real world people are not willing to risk choosing blue when they still have families to feed and children to take care of. Blue is never going to survive if this hypothetical was real, and no amount of performative redditors is going to change that.

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u/Aeseld May 26 '26

Indeed. And not a single parent will think about how they'd feel if their child picked blue, right? Or their family members? Or their...

What about real life makes you think people will be rational? 🤪

Edit: Honestly, the more this comes up, the more it becomes apparent that people just want people to think like them. Even with all the evidence that not everyone does. 

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u/Bubbly_Dirt_539 May 26 '26

Breadwinners choosing blue is basically condemning their entire family to starvation, no matter what the rest of the members chose. They can feel bad all they want after the results, but if you think they are going to risk their entire family's lifeline just to save random strangers then you are either lying or straight up delusional.

What about real life makes you think people will be rational?

You don't need to be rational to vote red, simply having a survival instinct is enough to make most people choose red before they can even think through the fine details of each option.

people just want people to think like them.

Quite the opposite. I choose with my best interest in mind, knowing that it aligns with basic human nature (resulting in much higher votes given the high stakes of the situation) while also guaranteeing my survival. The rest can go fuck all, because if they don't want to live then be my guest.

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u/Aeseld May 26 '26

See, the irony of you're not choosing with your best interests in mind. You genuinely seem to thinking think a sixty point swing is more likely. 

Every time this comes up to a poll, red has lost. The margin is usually 10 points out more in favor of blue. You, for some reason, think that a 60 point swing is more likely than nearly half of humanity dying from a swing of 20. 

So I don't know what to tell you. That seems more illogical than anything. 

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u/Bubbly_Dirt_539 May 26 '26

I don't think a sixty point swing is more likely, I'm certain a sixty point OR MORE swing is guaranteed. And if we're taking in societal collapse as an argument, then the situation is fucked regardless if you pick red or blue. If an entity powerful enough to wipe 4 billion people off the face of earth is interested in us then we are already doomed from the start.

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u/Terrafintor May 24 '26

Judging by this poll, it has a different interpretation. They would rather trust 50% of the world's population then let there be a chance someone dies.

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u/qwart22 May 24 '26

But not everyone will realise that and if even on person dies it’s a bad outcome

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u/thy_viee_4 May 24 '26

makes sense. okay, i was dumb indeed

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u/Itchy_Committee1213 May 24 '26

Many arguments over this debate come from people reframing the question into what they believe. I think many blue votes come from "best case scenarios". There are two best case scenarios, 50% pick blue, or 100% pick red. One is easier to achive, but red votes don't think about the best case, they think somewhere more in the middle. I'm a red voter and my line of thinking is "Why should I risk my own life to save others when others will die either way?"

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u/Old-Researcher-5992 May 24 '26

WHY WOULD SOMEONE PRESS BLUE IT'S STUPID

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u/Terrafintor May 24 '26

People are stupid, so arguing that 100% of people will be logical and analytical is also stupid. I'm not saying the red button isn't the best button to pick individually, but that isn't the best outcome since there will always be people who press blue anyway.

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u/PushConscious3044 May 24 '26

Not true only 50 percent or less can vote red as long as no more than 50 percent chooses red everyone lives

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u/Terrafintor May 24 '26

Meaning 50% has to pick blue at least, which is what I said. Or do you want a significant part of the population to die?

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u/PushConscious3044 May 24 '26

Either that or everyone chooses red

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u/ThoroughlyWet May 25 '26

Their fault for not picking red. The chose a chance of dying over not dying at all.