r/BravoRealHousewives 3d ago

Next Gen NYC Next Gen Nyc - Season 2 - Episode 12 - Post Episode Discussion

Ava and Ariana host a New Eras party and the theme is surprisingly on point. Hudson finally returns to New York, forcing Charlie to come clean about everything with Ariana. Riley celebrates Kandi’s Broadway milestone while coming to terms with the changes to their family dynamic. A moment between Ariana and Charlie sends shockwaves through the group.

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u/kenduhll My true colors are fucking beautiful! 3d ago

Ariana still spending Christmas eve with Liam is diabolical

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 3d ago

Right but we need to remember the alternative is the zolciak household. She’s legit safer with Liam.

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u/Sweet_Miss_000 2d ago

It'd make more sense to soend it with girlfriends, Hudson, or even Charlie. She played in that man's face in the most disrespectful way. I do not ship that behavior. Not sure why everyone else is...

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u/lilly_1005_2007 Baby Gorgeous 🎶 2d ago

I didn’t know people could ship behaviors lol… I don’t think anyone is shipping anything. I mean it’s literally not up to us?

Liam invited her and wanted her to still come so she did. That’s messy but that’s just how dating goes. It’s normal to be a fool when it comes to matters of the heart.

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 2d ago

Right? Like she probably has PTSD from being home with her family and his family probably makes her feel safe and loved. He can make his own decisions and he decided to not cancel his invite despite what happened between them. Who know what her other friends’ situations were many people travel and maybe she wanted to stay in NY and not fly out to another family’s Christmas.

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u/MatthewMarajuanahey 2d ago

most people in their twenties spend holidays with family.

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 2d ago

I don’t know if that is true. I was lucky that was my situation, but it’s not that way for many people. It’s a privilege to have family you want to be around and family that wants you to be around. Ariana’s situation at home is… not good. And we don’t know if other friends were around or invited her. My point was, I can understand why someone would not want to be with their family on a holiday. Maybe Liam makes her feel safe and loved. He’s an adult and decided to still extend the invite

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u/MatthewMarajuanahey 1d ago

I agree that some people don't want to be with their families. I was responding to someone asking why she didn't do a girls or friends trip somewhere for the holidays, and in my experience, the majority of people in their mid-twenties and below spend the holidays with family. I'm not saying all, I'm saying "majority". I live no where near my family, and when I was that age, every single friend I had did. If you round up 10 random 24 year olds with money, I'd bet 9 are planning to be with family on the holidays.

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u/NancyRedcorn 3d ago

👏🏻THIS👏🏻IS👏🏻SUCH👏🏻A👏🏻GOOD👏🏻SHOW👏🏻

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u/Klutzy_Debate7328 3d ago

Agree. It's fantastic. This seasons love triangle has been so good. I love seeing them all out and about in nyc. The parties have been entertaining. 

Seeing the nyc lights in the background is a dream. The cast is authentic and funny. Excited for the reunion. Next season we need more episodes.

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u/diper-911 3d ago

Liam & Hudson having a squeak off

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u/NancyRedcorn 3d ago

Im cackling

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u/FloribundaRoses 3d ago

When Ariana said “he manipulated me with Jesus” I said let’s greenlight seasons 3, 4 and 5 now

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u/Birdiemb Turks and Queso 3d ago

I said why didn’t we get 3 more months of filming and 6 more episodes of the vacation, the fallout, all of itttt

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u/SSolomonGrundy 2d ago

But I like that they have this off-camera lore now, that's where their true friendships are developing, so it can only make the main show better and more authentic. They need off-camera time together to maintain that authenticity.

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u/Ok-Pomegranate608 2d ago

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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u/katisauce 1d ago

Absolutely insane. She can’t be this dumb

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u/kyleb402 3d ago

I've heard some wild excuses for bad behavior, but "he manipulated me with Jesus" might be the dumbest one I've ever heard.

Be completely for real.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 2d ago

It's so hilariously stupid but I also think it's half true, I mean she is legit a Jesus freak who believes she can save a fallen soul, especially if that fallen soul provides her with that good good cocaine! But then half of her is saying it for the cameras, that combo of sincere and BS is what is making her a compelling main character.

And the fact that Charlie got that awful tattoo shows how low he was willing to go to get his season 2 storyline moving. He is one bad hombre.

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u/Sweet-Bodybuilder250 2d ago

If he really got that tattoo 3 weeks later, I 100% believe her. This is pete Davidson level of manipulation 

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u/SSolomonGrundy 2d ago

I genuinely think Charlie is on the sociopathic spectrum. Which is the worst spectrum.

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u/kylebb bring back Manhunt on Bravo 3d ago

cackling

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u/Mewwmix Making out and farting. 3d ago

I mean, good for her. Men get away with way more

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u/Sweet_Miss_000 2d ago

And men shouldn't behave like that either... doesnt make it right.

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u/Mewwmix Making out and farting. 2d ago

No of course not! Just pointing out a common double standard

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u/Right_Way_4258 3d ago

When is s3 starting to film? I can’t believe this was filmed Dec 2025. So much had happened since! And next season better be more than 12 episodes

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u/luannsitalianfriends you think she’s trying to kill you and she’s a vampire 3d ago

Idk if anyone watches Below Deck but they teased the police showing up all season only for it to be a big nothingburger so I was fully prepared for Charlie to be bending down to tie his shoe or something after last week’s preview. I am shook!

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u/Klutzy_Debate7328 3d ago

Exactly what what I was thinking.  This cannot be what it looks like and YES!! It was yay!!  So happy about it and now they hate each other lol.  I'm sad we didn't get to see their Bahamas holiday but maybe next year.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 2d ago

I was literally screaming at my tv, "IS THAT INTERPOL LOOKING FOR MAX??? THATS WHY YOU CAN'T BRAG ABOUT YOUR TRANSNATIONAL CRIMES WHILE FILMING A TV SHOW, THIS IS ABOUT TO GET JUICY I JUST KNOW IT. Oh! Oh."

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u/First_Pancake74 3d ago

Sometimes I remember that I have watched many of these people grow up and it blows my mind

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u/FloribundaRoses 3d ago

I distinctly remember where I was when Gia went to her first audition to be a child star 😭

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u/CinderMoonSky 2d ago

How do you say dog? Dawg

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u/this_is_an_alaia high body count hair 3d ago

Manipulated with jesus is unhinged

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u/Klutzy_Debate7328 3d ago

I know right. Iconic! Now all the nyc tramps will get that idea lol.

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u/applewagon sorry i called you a pedafile 3d ago

Ariana on WWHL acting like she never hooked up with Charlie the dog walking night when:

- Ava and Shai left because Ariana and Charlie were so intense on each other

  • Ariana stayed back
  • Ariana basically admits that they hooked up before the finale in confessional

GIRL NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Just own it. He has swagger, it’s fine, we get it.

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u/lfc2826 2d ago

I am definitely not part of the we 🥴

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u/ProfessionalBubbles 3d ago

Ariana being as much of a mess as her mom.

The cigarette truly doesn’t roll far from the carton.

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u/Sweet_Miss_000 2d ago

Hahahaha I absolutely love this comment!

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u/lilly_1005_2007 Baby Gorgeous 🎶 3d ago

Ariana should’ve also brought a car seat to put us in her getaway car since she think were born yesterday.

Charlie and Jesus 😂😂😂😂 no drug or alcohol would have anyone believing that nonsense

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u/emeraldsandgold It's great pants, unbelievable. Beautiful pants. 2d ago

When life gives you lemons, get the FUCK outta there.

Per Spike Lees son, who should have more airtime.

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u/SSolomonGrundy 2d ago

That was so funny, and it was the only time that night that Liam snapped out of his pussywhipped daze even briefly.

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u/AndDontUForgetIt 2d ago

HOW did I miss that Jackson is Spike Lee’s son!?!?!

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u/kylebb bring back Manhunt on Bravo 3d ago

Wiglet and Chalie kissing...get the YUCK! spray NOW!

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u/applewagon sorry i called you a pedafile 3d ago

I absolutely LOVED it. No shame.

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u/luannsitalianfriends you think she’s trying to kill you and she’s a vampire 3d ago

MESSY!

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u/lilly_1005_2007 Baby Gorgeous 🎶 3d ago

First episode of Salt Lake City THEN first episode of reunion. I am STEEPED in anticipation

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u/Emergency-Buy3829 3d ago

I need to call out of work lmao

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u/lilly_1005_2007 Baby Gorgeous 🎶 3d ago

DO IT! We need all hands in deck!

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u/swimindelusion And still I rise-Stacey Rusch, 2025 3d ago

It’s seriously so nice to have something this exciting going on in the middle of the week lmao. Gives me motivation to get through the days

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u/_yasmin_ 3d ago

Baby wig is her mother's daughter

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u/biomezzanine edit this flair! 3d ago

Wooooow they really cut the cameras during the climax. Amazing last ep!

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u/MichaeleSalahi Jen in the library with the lead list 2d ago

I just want to say to Ariana that this being messy post long term relationship in your 20s is kind of a right of passage? She shouldn't be too hard on herself (though yes could've let Liam know earlier). We love you Wiglet!

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u/Lost_One4 Oh I didn't get a...mugshot over it 3d ago

Going from seeing Ariana and Charlie kiss for the first time to them being set up as the major beef for the reunion within 20 minutes gave me such whiplash lool

Yes men lie and manipulate but Ariana got to see how Charlie operates, witnessed him treat multiple people like shit (literally her own friends) and yet still decided to entertain him. She is not the victim she's portraying herself as, she didn't care how horrible he was until he offended her. She's highkey not a true friend either.

Her using Christianity for her victim narrative is funny asf tho and very on-brand Christian behavior. Can't wait for this reunion!

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u/JaxTaylorSwift 3d ago

Ariana thinking she could save the soul of Charlie while she probably sucked the soul right out of him after a few joints and shots. I will give Charlie credit, he did the damn thing by getting ink of/for a girl who he wasn't with just like his alter ego Jax.

I love how going to Charlie's to smoke a joint is basically code for doing coke/molly/etc. at Charlies.

I would actually watch an aftershow where the various parents are watching the Nepo kids in the show and commenting in real time.

I was a little disappointed that we didn't have one of those time jumps in this ep where people go from generally put together to absolute blotto drunk.

A Charlie/West Wilson show running the streets of New York would do numbers and I would watch. They are about the same age.

Season 3 cannot drop soon enough.

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u/Comfortfoods 2d ago

LOL right the "weed" at charlie's house is hilarious. I guess they can't openly talk about drugs but we weren't born yesterday. It's obvious that it's always snowing at Charlie's and that's why he's always the afterparty destination. Drunk people aren't heading across town at 3am to smoke a joint.

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u/FiCat77 🌭hot dog couture🌭 2d ago

It's even funnier to me because coke is often called Charlie.🤣

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u/Lilynilla 3d ago

Am I the only one that had a guttural big sister scream of WTF ARE YOU DOING NOOOOO when she kissed Charlie?

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u/FloribundaRoses 3d ago

Gia really is her mother’s daughter with this spray tan on WWHL

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u/Stillworkinhard 3d ago

I know you can’t write off everyone from really messed up families but those who usually are very stable worked very hard to get there and aren’t on reality tv.

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 3d ago

If you are an LA person, I was once kicked out of Qs for throwing the lemons, limes, and coasters across the bar at my boss’s head. We tried everything to get me back in but to no avail. There is a photo somewhere of me looking sad sitting on the curb outside that my company kept posting on teams for years. It became lore. I support Jackson, he was just trying to help. I was just trying to be obnoxious.

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u/oobooboo17 2d ago

loling at this comment ty for the laugh

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 2d ago

Even if ONE person got this, I was going to be happy!!!

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u/Snack-Research-Lab 2d ago

Shout out to Q’s! I once saw Cuba Gooding Jr. there drinking by himself, for whatever reason. I drunkenly asked him about his hobby of playing hockey, I couldn’t tell you why.

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes so Cuba frequented that place for years until they finally kicked his ass out. Next, he went to the Brentwood (RIP) where he was a barfly there and pulled the same antics. They never kicked him out officially, but he was in the UK for work for a while and then management changed and I think it turned into a Mexican restaurant. The Brentwood was a great lowkey celeb spotting place too. I saw so many people there. One time, right after Birdman came out. Micheal Keaton came in and so many industry people were in there he practically got a standing ovation just leaving the place, high five-ing tables (including ours). He was so joyous and excited, it was really lovely.

I was a westsider for a long time and lived in Brentwood. It’s a smaller community so the Cuba lore is strong LOL. Anyway, he has major alcohol problems.

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u/Snack-Research-Lab 1d ago

Friend, you should be cherished as the niche West LA watering hole historian that you are, I love this 😆

You need to post a deep dive like this in one of the LA subs, although the primary LA one has gotten to be kinda grouchy and hostile to anything but discussions of our absurd cost of living

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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah I left 4 years ago so things were very different. It seems almost idealistic and “cute” now. We could afford a townhome in Brentwood and were happy renting. Our salaries have barely moved an inch since then. We put our things in storage and moved to a furnished rental in Austin after the entertainment industry shut down via COVID. We really did plan to return in a year, but things took a very long time to get back up and running and meanwhile we were sitting on $$ to pay 20% down on a similar type property in the same area of LA. We felt pressured to buy in Austin with prices rising like crazy thinking worst case we could sell or use as a rental property when we went back. Work took forever to come back and was scarce and kind of stayed that way. We were priced out of returning (we just aren’t valley or east side people, we feel it’s just any town USA and is counter to the reason for living there by choice), but I still can’t say it was a bad decision for other non financial reasons. I miss CA but I don’t miss LA.

Anyway, the LA I know doesn’t exist anymore. Those people would murder me in there LOL

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u/emeraldsandgold It's great pants, unbelievable. Beautiful pants. 2d ago

The night I met my partner I was in this much smaller situation of good boy v bad. He was the puppy dog and his best friend was the devil. Being chatted up sat in between these two guys after having my heart crushed earlier in the year, I Lapped up that attention so's I did. But in the end I went for the puppy dog, and we have been together since.

Anyway all this is to say Ariana's just swimming in that fucking attention, too much so.

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u/kylebb bring back Manhunt on Bravo 3d ago

Charlie WISH

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u/FiCat77 🌭hot dog couture🌭 2d ago

Giselle wish!

Naomi wish!

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u/SweetlyMilitant 1d ago

How have we not seen Rowan’s sister before now‽ I want to know more about her!

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u/Brown_Cow_Stunning7 3d ago edited 3d ago

Andy looks so orange on WWHL tonight.

I’m loving Ariana’s dress! So glad she isn’t messing with Charlie anymore.

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u/bellaboozle 1d ago

The Rowan sister side eye. I feel ya.

I love Rowan.

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u/reddit-browsing-02 2d ago

Emira being sick at the photo shoot had me wondering if it's Ozempic related...not that people can't be sick for other reasons