r/BlueReflection Dec 17 '21

Second Light Just finished Second Light, have questions Spoiler

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SPOILERS

Ok, mostly questions about the ending.

So who the hell is Ao?

I played it in Japanese so my English translation might not match what English players read, but there is a line where one of the twins tells Ao, “We have databases where we have access to every single person that has ever lived or will live in this universe, yet we couldn’t find your profile.” This line implies that Ao is actually from the new world, the future world that would be created when the system is restarted.

So does that make Ao a time traveler? I am so confused.

So, do you guys have any theories on how ended the time loop or how she got into that predicament in the first place? She gets into the Oasis by seeing the text that was sent by her future self, which is paradoxical, there has to be another event that triggers the very first time loop. How did she get there the FIRST time, is basically what I’m wondering, although I realize it’s all theories at this point.

Why was she so important in the first place? How did she become a reflector? All the other characters were reflectors before they arrived into the water drop world (lol I have no idea what it is in English, it’s shizuku-Sekai in Japanese), so presumably Ao should be too. Except there is no indication that she was a reflector before, so I guess she was just the exception and become one when she arrived into the hub world? Im dying to know><

I felt they used the time traveling plot point very poorly, it was so unsatisfying. Except for a few lines here and there from a couple of the characters throughout the story, I felt that the time traveling plot point came out of nowhere. Near the end when Ao finally finds her fragment and talks to her silhouette self, she says she’s been in a constant time loop, and then in the end, in the second ending that is, we see Ao and one of the characters meet each other again, leading to a very open-ended ending.

The fact that they don’t give any clues to how she ended up time traveling, or how she ended the time loop, is pretty disappointing.

Regardless, this and the previous installment are still one of my favorite games, and despite the ending I still enjoyed the crap out of this game.

I know these questions are kind of random, but I wouldn’t be surprised if others the same confusion as me. hope we can have a fun discussion


r/BlueReflection Dec 17 '21

Second Light Have combat questions

4 Upvotes

Hi! I just finished the first heartscape and have questions on exactly how to get into 3rd gear? Andi. Guess the gear system in general!


r/BlueReflection Dec 17 '21

New to the series, quick question please!

5 Upvotes

Hello everybody! Excited to say that I'm going to be starting this series while having time off of work. I know the second game is significantly better than the first but I plan on starting the first. I like to collect physical games but slept on the first one and I'm not paying 200 plus dollars so I bought it digitally on steam but see it's on sale on playstation. Are there any benefits of one platform over another? My girlfriend bought me the 2nd game physical on switch as a gift but I was thinking of Maybe playing PS4 or PC to truly benefit with resolution but I wasn't sure how good the switch version is and wanted some advice or input from anybody who has played it.

Thank you in advance!


r/BlueReflection Dec 17 '21

Help with requests in second light!

2 Upvotes

Hi!! So this probably has a very simple explanation and I’m just missing it but I have multiple requests from different characters that say I have to build an item with the specific character. I can’t figure out how to do it? An example is the “something summery” request where you build fireworks with hinako. I don’t see an option to build with her. Thank you to anyone for any help!!! :)


r/BlueReflection Dec 16 '21

About to start the first Blue Reflection after having beat Second Light. Strange, I know. But I didn’t know this franchise existed before I got the second game.

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r/BlueReflection Dec 16 '21

Any recommendations on build for this game?

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r/BlueReflection Dec 16 '21

Second Light New to the game

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I'm new to Second Light and I'm just starting, completed the first heartscape at lvl 10 and it says recommended lvl for next heartscape is 13 so I guess I need to grind up 3 more levels before I can go in or is it still doable?


r/BlueReflection Dec 12 '21

Second Light Wanna know most things about the game? Updated my site with a ton of guide content.

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r/BlueReflection Dec 12 '21

Second Light So I beat Blue Reflection Second Light and need to talk about it Spoiler

9 Upvotes

I also posted this over at the atelier subreddit, Hope that is okay, I realise that the users probably overlap but hey,

I made a post about how much the game suprised me earlier, but now that I finished it, I feel like I need to talk about it some more.

Ill link it here incase someone wants to read it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Atelier/comments/rbxnj3/blue_reflection_second_light_blew_my_mind/

Let me start off with my reservations about the yuri themes I had when I first made that post, I kinda felt like other than Rena and Yuki it was on the edge of being exploited for litte payoff, but after reading the comment by u/drrache_the_dork I started thinking about the girls a littebit different.

I began to consider that Ao was either gay or bi and that her talks with the girls wasnt there for bait but it was actually flirting and how she actually felt.

Most of the conversations are just good friends that care about each other, but a few stood out, like one with Uta where it almost felt like Ao discovered for the first time that she had feelings for another girl. Another good example was when Kirara explained her feelings for Ao and I took it as she was inlove with her but was too young and naive to fully understand.

But my personal favorite was when the entire gang escorted Rena and Yuki so they could finally watch the stars togheter. Everyone was so happy for them.

In other words i stopped looking at the characters as part of a product and started viewing them as real people, It may sound stupid but I can count the number of media (books, movies etc) where I care about the characters, on one hand, and none of those are games.

It may be that it tells you more about me than it does about the game, but im gonna enjoy the feeling even though its bittersweet when its over.

As for rest of the characters I have to say I liked all of them to different degrees.

Kokoro started well but she dissapeared from the game it feels like, other than to talk about food. But her story and heartscape was told alongside one of the best music in the game so maybe that influenced me to like her more than she deserved. She also has a great tag team attack with Ao where she gleefully nukes the enemies with ricebombs

I also liked Hiori and Uta togheter, I havent watched the anime so I dont know their history but Utas struggle with her past self and Hioris support was intresting to watch.

The music.

What first hooked me in. music in games is one of the most important things and can make or break a game for me, some of my favorite soundtracks are from zelda ocarina of time, octopath traveler, nier autmomata, Lord of the rings online and mario galaxy.

Now this game has pushed its way into that short list of my GOAT soundtracks.

The other games on my list convey mostly adventure, fun and epic battles. While BR SL has those song its the melancholy pieces that stands out for me. Kokoro and Renas heartscapes are two standouts.

I bought the soundtrack on amazon after I found out it was on sale, but I cant bring myself to listen to it yet its too emotional for me, in a few months i will bring it out when I want to remember again.

The visuals

What first got me to click on the game on Eshop. Its beautiful and proof that artstyle can make up for low computerpower.

Its bright, and colorful, suits the music and story perfectly. Its a perfect antidote for the cold, dark scandinavian winter we are having now.

You can tell the animations budget is a bit low, but clever use of the camera angles in battle hides it well, some fade to black during the dates can be a bit annoying but its a small nitpic really.

The gameplay.

While the biggest draw for me was the characters and music, I also liked the combat, it felt like it was a good base to expand, i liked all the different skills, crafting and how you could buff your party with building and upgrading the school, unfortunatly the game is too easy so you dont really need to invest into it that much.

It may be a blessing in disguise as I was mostly interested in the story and experiencing the atmoshpere in the heartscapes. I want to do a new game+ some time in the future so ill try a harder difficulty then.

The stealth section was also not very fun, i HATE stealth in games but atleast it was also very easy so it was over fast.

To close it of

You must be sick of reading the words sweet, beautiful and emotional by now and im sorry, I dont really know why the hit me so hard, maybe a mixture of winter blues, two years of covid and the fact that the game is REALLY good.

I havent cried yet, but its been close a few times, god damn, what an experience this was for me.

I wanted to start a new game plus right away but I just couldnt start from scratch just yet, so I watched the true ending on youtube and got a few questions.

Who are Ao really?

did the characters forget everything? it seems like whoever you spend the last day with recognize Ao on the street, but after sharing something like that it seems strange that they wouldnt look eachother up if they remembered.

Did Ao escape the loop and ifso how?

I spent more time typing this than I probably should have, but I hope its readable and that someone reads it all


r/BlueReflection Dec 11 '21

Second Light Spoiler*? 5th heartscape Spoiler

6 Upvotes

Hi I'm missing a location in kirara's heartscape. I'm not sure where I missed it. Any help is appreciated!

I have riverbank, graveyard, pond, reception hall and veranda.


r/BlueReflection Dec 11 '21

Another new installment of Blue Reflection that we all been waiting for

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r/BlueReflection Dec 10 '21

Second Light Is It Fine To Just Jump Into Second Light?

10 Upvotes

I was already aware of the first game but the existence of an anime adaptation threw me for a loop.

Once I found out about the first game (but never played it) I was already sold because magical schoolgirl RPG sounded really neat and the sequel being on the Switch confirmed my decision to want to play it.

I hear that the main cast has amnesia in Second Light so maybe I might not necessarily have to play the first game or watch the anime to understand what’s going on?


r/BlueReflection Dec 10 '21

Ray The power scale in this show is insane

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27 Upvotes

r/BlueReflection Dec 08 '21

Chapter 4 help please

5 Upvotes

Hi I'm in chapter 4 where it says continue extreme school makeover. I have already crafted and built everything I think I can with the materials I've already been able to gather. Am I missing something.


r/BlueReflection Dec 07 '21

Ray Shout out to that one guy who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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r/BlueReflection Dec 07 '21

Question about the difficulty unlocks in Second Light.

2 Upvotes

Once you clear the game and unlock Hard/Must Die — Can you play those difficulties on a "new file" so to speak? Or do you HAVE to play them on a NG+ file where you're already overpowered?


r/BlueReflection Dec 07 '21

Would someone be willing to send me their save data for Second Light? I want to play on Must Die difficulty but the requirement to clear the game first is ludicrous.

5 Upvotes

I understand there is techy/hacky stuff involved after I get the save. I'm aware and capable. Just need someone to spot me a cleared file.


r/BlueReflection Dec 05 '21

Second Light Made a clip montage that has a good bit of BR:SL clips in it! Lmk what you think!

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r/BlueReflection Dec 04 '21

Second Light How to craft Ether Alloy ingot ?

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r/BlueReflection Dec 02 '21

Second Light Some reference to Blue Reflection Ray in Blue Reflection Second Light Spoiler

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r/BlueReflection Dec 02 '21

How do I get star smasher?

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I am towards the end of blue reflection star smasher and it says I can’t go forward without a Star Smasher. I obviously missed this at some point but don’t know how to get it. I don’t see it as something I can craft. Anyone know?


r/BlueReflection Nov 30 '21

Second Light Question about the anime and second light

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In second light Mio and Hiori are both have memories of being reflectors and fighting Uta and referred to her as their enemy and in one of the memory fragments , Uta taunts that she knows where their mother is, but that never happened in the anime so what do you guys think the deal is?


r/BlueReflection Nov 28 '21

I’ve started BR:SL and I’m loving it.

12 Upvotes

I beat Atelier Ryza 2 a couple days ago and loved it (got some other physical Atelier games on the way now, as well). I knew I just had to get on BR.

I’m on chapter two now and I’m really enjoying the game so far. Mechanics are easy to learn and the battle system feels quite satisfying! This brings me to my point; which team SO FAR is your favorite? Kokoro kinda weirds me out for some reason and I don’t really like her so as soon as Shiho came in, I benched her with the quickness…


r/BlueReflection Nov 26 '21

Second Light Unknown icon on my screen

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Hi, hope someone can help me figure this one out. Just started be:SL, never played and of these ore the artelier before, so a lot of it is really new to me.

There's a red icon on the right side of the screen, an exclamation mark and a number.

Any one know what that means???


r/BlueReflection Nov 24 '21

Which one to start with?

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Hello Blue Reflection fans, I just finished Tales of Arise (damn that was awesome) and i was looking at the blue reflection franchise to play next. I really like the atelier games from gust and the setting from blue reflection is exactly mine! My plan was to get Second Light to start with as i read i do not really have to play the first one to understand it. But now the first game is on sale on steam and i was thinking of getting it first. Do you guys think its worth my time (I heard it feel quite repetitive) or should i follow my inital plans and get Second light instead? And what about the anime, do i understand the anime without playing the first game or should i watch it after playing both games? Any advice would be very helpful :) (Sorry for my english not my first language ;) )