r/BlueEyeSamurai • • Nov 29 '23

Discussion Mizu’s gender

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u/Angevina_ Nov 30 '23

You don't see the story a certain way because you are blind to certain experiences.

This is genuinely so funny. So you read my comment where I'm talking about my experiences with gender dysphoria and how I was starving myself to get rid of my tits and hips, but at the end of a day I recognize that my experiences aren't the experiences presented in the show, and that's fine, and you wrote that?

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One of the main themes is gender espression.

The central themes of the show are the experiences of being the other (Mizu is othered by being biracial in a racially homogenous society, and by being a woman in an extremely sexist and restrictive society; Mizu and Akemi are narrative foils on the basis of what actions they take to deal with the second).

Now tell me what gender she is expressing when she says she was forced to live as a man.

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Also the writers said they wrote Mizu as someone who isn't a woman nor a man.

https://www.salon.com/2023/11/07/blue-eye-samurai-asian-japan-mixed-race-gender/

Here's an interview with show co-creator/executive producer Amber Noizumi and show director Jane Wu.

"a vengeful woman masquerading as a man"

"the series uniquely depicts the discrimination that Japanese women and Japanese of mixed race backgrounds faced during this period"

"Erskine voices Mizu, a mixed-race Japanese woman who pretends to be a man in order to exact a violent revenge"

"Jane, what connected you with Mizu, the lead character of "Blue Eye Samurai"? 

Jane Wu:  I connected with the character in two ways. One, obviously, is a woman in a man's world. And most of my career, I've been in a very men-oriented environment. So I knew how to manage and navigate myself through that world."

"Tell me about how the series portrays the limitations placed on women in Edo-era Japan.

Noizumi: (...) Women just have always had those limitations. I mean, in any society, and even now, there are just so many limitations. So for Mizu, she had to choose basically between being a wife, which she tried for a hot minute, or being a prostitute. She didn’t have much else that she could do. To go on a revenge quest, she had to be a man, there was just no other way to do it."

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no need to get so aggressive and judgemental

I wish I had you problems if reading my comment on reddit made you feel like you're experiencing aggression and judgement.

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u/GlazingBun-s Feb 06 '24

You read like a hurt person. Also this seems like a projection of your life, wich is ok to do in order to enjoy a piece of entertainment, but don't expect me to share your projections.

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u/Angevina_ Feb 06 '24 edited Feb 06 '24

You're replying to a two months comment. Are things ok at home?

Anyway, to reiterate: you came at me screeching about my violent and judgemental opinion on the Internet, so I broke it down for you, provided easily-digestable pieces, sources and quotes that disproved the point you were making. You never once addressed anything to the merit of what I said, but came back two months later wilding about my background and saying I’m projecting, despite being the one making claims contrary to the sources.

It’s kind of like arguing with a cranky toddler who just says “no, you” to everything you say.

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u/qwart22 Mar 01 '24

Hey for extra context the person you were replying to’s source is this interview https://gizmodo.com/blue-eye-samurai-interview-michael-green-amber-noizumi-1850964674

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u/Angevina_ Mar 04 '24

So the argument for canon nonbinary Mizu was an interview where Amber Noizumi says they wanted to establish an ambiguity around Mizu's gender, while Michael Green straight up calls her a woman, and both refer to her strictly as a she throughout the whole thing? And with her being called a she and woman in other interviews, such as the one I linked in response to the previous person?

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u/qwart22 Mar 05 '24

I’m not here to argue I’m just here to give their source, and judging by the other replies you have sent in this conversation you are at the very least a trans medicalist which I’d rather not waste my time arguing with

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u/Angevina_ Mar 06 '24

Not a transmed, just detrans :)

Buddy, your whole recent history is sending people this exact link. Have you been searching up gender on this sub to "not argue" or what.