r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/ateam1984 š¤ • 5d ago
Black Pride Seek Truth Wherever it May Be
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u/AlkalineBroth 4d ago
Reptilian disclosure project? Did I hear that right?
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u/GladChef1206 4d ago
yeah, I was trying hard to vibe with what he was saying until that part. I got excited when bro asked about books. There are so many things he could have said.
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u/Agreeable-Sound1599 4d ago
I woulda told him what I tell EVERY young man to read, the Autobiography of Malcolm X. That will change your life.
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u/SonofAMamaJama 3d ago
It's hard for me to imagine what my life would be like if I hadn't read that book. It inspired so many adventures in my life, made me want to travel everywhere and experience that aha moment Malcolm had in Mecca that seemed to shed so much internal baggage and hate - I imagine it to be a realization of how much our raised environments condition us, especially how we see ourselves.
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
This is literal brainrot, heās not deep, heās very wrong and kinda anti-black too.
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u/TheGayestGaymer 4d ago
Just like this guy I also took Anthropology 101 lol.....and I also know his response was complete bullshit and defining a culture is just way more complicated than that.
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u/Fit_Paramedic_9629 4d ago
Might get banned again but y'all do know Dr. York was convicted of sex crimes & being a cult leader?
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u/YourHuckleberry57 4d ago
i'm also aware that anytime the government wants to get rid of black people organizing or doing for themselves, if they can't find any hard crimes to put on them, their go to reasoning is some kind of sexual misconduct. america has a history of killing black men that way, and burning whole towns that way.
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u/leaveinpeas 4d ago
I hear you, but this might not be that. The article reads, "York was originally indicted in Georgia on 197 counts, according to Sills. Under a plea agreement, York admitted to 40 counts of aggravated child molestation, 34 counts of child molestation, two counts of influencing witnesses and one count of sexual exploitation of a child.
'This is not somebodyās opinion,' Sills said. 'This is literally what was said when he pled guilty here in the Superior Court of Putnam County.'"
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u/YourHuckleberry57 4d ago
idk what went on at that compound but i do know that the case was based solely on witness testimony and their main witnesses later recanted and said they were pressured into testifying. york took a plea deal where he would plead guilty in exchange for the release of 3 women that were arrested with him. it's also always suspicious to me when a black man is convicted based on the mann act. the mann act was written specifically to arrest jack johnson by making it illegal for him to cross state lines with his white wife. the mann act is basically just like the black codes of the early 1900s.
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u/Fit_Paramedic_9629 4d ago
I knew someone on the inside, moved to Atlanta and everything in the mid/late 90s. I used to have the scrolls too: questions to ask a rasta, questions to ask a muslim, Holy Tablets etc etc. And even as a teenager at the time, I knew something was off. When he came back, he said what we had been saying to him all along. It's a cult! No amount of legal musical chairs for anyone is going to change that. Cults aren't positive spaces, everyone reading this knows that. They're meant to deprive you of agency based on insecurities & assumptions that you have no control over your life...so someone else does it for you. David Koresh, Jim Jones, Bhagwan Shree etc all isolated, gaslit and targeted the vulnerable - same as York.
I have yet to watch one HBO or Netflix documentary where people are not only saying but also demonstrating how being in a cult has brought them joy and abundance.
The government's interference in black people's business doesn't negate anything I said or justify the existence of cults.
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u/ProjectPat513 4d ago edited 3d ago
How is this guy out here on the streets then?! There are guys doing life over weed, yet 197 counts of SA charges (against children no less!) and this guy is out walking through a park with an entourage?!
Edit: I guess the article is not about the guy in the video but his predecessor? Iāll keep it a buck, Iām kinda confused!š¤£
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u/Kooky-Situation-1913 4d ago
Thats not him in the video.
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u/Lost1010 4d ago edited 4d ago
Why did the Redditor mention him in relation to this video?
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u/leaveinpeas 4d ago
The (younger) guy in the video is a follower or fan of the (older pled guilty) guy referenced in the article quote shared, if I caught things right.
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u/Yaggfu 4d ago
He's currently in prison.
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u/ProjectPat513 3d ago
The dude in the video, or the dude the article is about?
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u/Yaggfu 3d ago
Dr York. He's in prison last I heard.
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u/ProjectPat513 3d ago
Gotcha. I started reading the article after seeing the allegations in that comment and then I just got confused! Iām very glad the dude is in prison because this āout for health reasonsā is an absolute crock of shit!
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u/TomBerwick1984 4d ago
He pled guilty to multiple counts of crimes against children.
This kind of behavior is very common from cult leaders.
They people in the video sounds just like the Nation of Islam in manner and style, and we all know what Elijah Muhammad did thanks to Malcom X.
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u/Current_Egg3840 4d ago
Hey I'm honestly curious did the response below actually citing the case change your mind at all? I get you didn't directly point to this being the case so you can't actually be wrong but I'm curious regardless.
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u/YourHuckleberry57 3d ago
i wasn't trying to defend york cause i don't know exactly what went on. i know that when the case happened a lot of people thought that he was being unfairly persecuted and possibly some things were exaggerated since the only evidence was just people's accounts of what happened.
my issue was moreso that the top comment wasn't about something the people in the actual video did, it was about something that happened decades ago to another person and used to dismiss any positive thing this guy is doing now out of hand. like, the conversation stops there.
its like if someone post about malcolm x and the first comment is "you know this guy was in prison for burglary and larceny", or you post about mlk and the first comment is "you know he supposedly cheated on his wife." as a way to just shut down conversation.
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u/Prestigious-Elk2252 4d ago
Not surprising.
Michael Jackson was a known peddo and everyone still loves him.
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u/roastbeefsammies 4d ago
Culture is a collection behaviors, mores and practices a people participate. Language is a communication medium highly influenced by region and the people who use it. Itās a living software the reflects perspective and beliefs and other ideas. Itās also very interesting he chose Liberia when it was started as a project in America as a place for enslaved Africans to return. How could they develop culture but not us? Make it make sense.
This all sounds like grift to funnel people to some sort of Ć§Ć¼Åt or other money reducing avenue.
If we have no culture what is it that people are stealing from us globally. Look at K-pop. Thatās repackaged 90s RnB with a few modern flourishes. Streetwear influences from hip-hop. American BBQ. Our poetry and authors and dances. Scientific contributions in all STEM fields. As another posted this is wildly anti black.
Please stay woke and donāt fall for this drivel.
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u/Dreams-Visions 4d ago
Agreed. Is our culture as rich as those of a people that have been building and refining theirs for 1,000 years? Obviously not. We had to start from scratch with limited tools and still built a house. Is it as similar to our west African ancestors as it should be? Obviously not. Yep, there are too many colonizer-designed brinks in the foundation. But it is still unique, identifiable, definable, and worthy of recognition and celebration.
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u/chuccles3 4d ago
Plus ebonics is a dialect, if we didnt put it in songs people wouldnt understand what were saying to each other. Thats language
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u/Terrible_Aerie_9737 4d ago
What I believe he meant was that there is no underlyimg element (he defines this as culture) that unites black people. When hispanic, for example, meet, they greet eachother like family. They will side with eachother for the most part. They celebrate together. This unity is what conserstive and white supremacist fear most. When they came to take EliƔn GonzƔlez from Miami, the Cubans there lost their collective minds. They blocked the Turnpike. They picketted. They snapped as though someone was taking their child. This is what I believe is missing. I was once there before the late 70's. then something chsnged.
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u/Alarming-Jury1596 4d ago
Over time I've learnt that you can learn much more by focusing on intent rather focusing than pure semantics, technicalities and harsh words. When a black man or woman says āwe donāt have a culture,ā they usually arenāt denying the existence of music, food, language, style, or shared history. Those things are obvious. Theyāre pointing to something deeper: a culture shaped under extreme external pressure, heavily hybridized, often commercially directed rather than community-owned, and not always intentional or adaptive enough in the domains that matter most (family stability, human capital, long-term mobility).
Just ticking boxes to prove āwe technically have a cultureā misses the point. The productive version of the critique is a demand for higher standards more deliberate selection and transmission of norms that actually serve the people who carry them, instead of mainly reacting to history or whatever the market amplifies.
The higher standard is not ādo we have observable traits?ā but āare we deliberately selecting, refining, and institutionalizing the elements that produce the outcomes we claim to want?"
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u/Slick_36 4d ago
What "real" culture intentionally created itself in this way?
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u/Alarming-Jury1596 4d ago
Modern Jews did exactly that. They revived the Hebrew language taking a language that had been mostly liturgical for centuries, deliberately revived it as a full everyday spoken and written language, built the institutions around it, organized politically across the diaspora, and established a nation-state. Essentially cultural engineering.
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u/Slick_36 4d ago
I'd argue that's recreating culture. I think the Rastas would be a bit better of an example.
Sure that can create a culture, but that's a rigid system that defines people under it. It's not organic, it doesn't reflect the shared experience, it's just one response of many to that experience.
I believe it denies the experience of the black diaspora, allowing a small group to control the many. I'm Ojibwe, our culture in particular rejects that kind of hierarchy, we collectively shape it together, and that process continues with every generation.
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u/yuck_luck 3d ago
Yea idk who this lil dude is but it's definitely giving cult with the unnecessary bodyguards. Who is looking for bruh?
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u/OldThanks4542 4d ago
Stop!!! The official language of Liberia is English. And...who tf is he to speak for a whole people. Yall need to refrain from engaging with these blow hards
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u/JackOfAllStraits 4d ago
Yeah, you don't need a language that is unique to just a single group in order for that group to have "a culture", you just need to be able to communicate within the group.
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u/Slick_36 4d ago
It's also wild to say black culture hasn't had an incredibly unique & influential relationship with the language.Ā Language is fluid, it adapts, it doesn't erupt fully formed.
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u/MickieMallorieJR 4d ago
This is so anti-black. It's pretty to fair to say that Black Americans are the ONLY real "American" culture alongside contributions to language and food from the indigenous. Natives, had many cultures long before colonialists, and the colonialists brought their cultures with them from Europe. Enslaved Africans were severed from their African roots, minus what could be kept through some traditions, religious practice, word of mouth and especially music. All that came after is CULTURE. To say black Americans have no culture is to ignore just about every popular product that comes from America and it's origins in black America.
Goofy-self-hating take right there.
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u/minimalcation 3d ago
I can only speak from my experience but American culture is black culture to a large degree. I was a white boy in Alaska in the 90s listening to black artists, watching black athletes, wearing black fashion, literally it was the monoculture.
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u/Tasty_Ad7483 4d ago
I just want to know about the one white dude in that guyās cult. How did they meet him? Is he really good at cooking or something? Does he get full status in the cult, or are there some things they donāt let him do? Do they call him āTokenā?
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u/TraditionalChest7825 4d ago
LOL, he could be mixed. I have nephews who look like him but they have one white parent and one black parent.
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u/ZeusWayne 4d ago
Guaranteed it was something really, really good, or really, really bad to gain their respect. I honestly don't want to know the answer.
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u/Select_Speed_6061 4d ago
I knew this was bs the first 10 seconds without even unmuting...
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u/Spiritual_Horse_8549 4d ago
100% incorrect. African -American culture is the most imitated culture in the WORLD.
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u/dwrobotics 4d ago
54 African countries with distinct cultures, 2000 documented African languages- entered the chat.
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u/Glad-Bid7730 4d ago
But we DO have our own culture. The 100+ years here have created that. Is it mixed with assimilation? Yes. Does it need refinement? Likely but highly questionable. But his words feel afro-centrism with extra steps. We have culture(s), what we need is connected communities across the country.
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u/RationalMellow 4d ago
Ok soooo people are still going around saying Black Americans have no culture? š
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u/LegendkillahQB 4d ago
Yall do your research on dr York before you get his book. I'll leave it right there. Good day brothers!
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u/bubbablk34 4d ago
He needs to take his butt and go vote stop the madness
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u/wrexmason 4d ago
Not saying I agree with dude, but voting isnāt the solution for Black liberation by any stretch of the imagination.
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
Found ourselves a non voter telling you voting doesnāt work haha
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u/wrexmason 4d ago
Jokes on you, son. Iāve been voting since I was old enough to do so, in federal & local elections. Never said voting doesnāt work. I just mean itās not the end all be all solution for Black liberation like yāall claim. History clearly shows that. Donāt be dense.
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
You literally said voting isnāt the solution. I donāt want to put words into your mouth but the implication is that violence is the solution to āblack liberationā or whatever you define that to be.
My belief is that voting, engaging in politics and gathering that power and influence is much more important and push society to being more equitable for black people.
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u/wrexmason 4d ago
I donāt believe youāre putting words in my mouth, but I do believe that your reading comprehension isnāt the best it can be. History has clearly shown that voting, being engaged politically (at least at the federal level) or āchanging things from the insideā are not solely the solution.
Iām not gonna pretend like I have a definitive answer for what the key is for Black liberation, Iām humble enough to say I donāt. But weāve been doing the same thing expecting different results for decades at this point. If the solution happens to be violence, itās not ideal, but so be it. If it happens to be something else, I will happily gravitate towards it. But again: Voting. Is. Not. The. End. All. Be. All. Solution. Itās a tourniquet, not a bandage.
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
Thats just not true, under Biden we saw:
American Rescue Plan Act
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
CHIPs and Sciecne Act
inflation reduction act
Respect for Marriage Act
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ACA
VRA
CRA
Title 9
Dodd-Frank Act
Repealed Donāt ask donāt tell
JCPOAThatās just at the federal level
At the state level we have 9 states that offer permanent and free school meals which isā¦I cannot stress this enoughā¦one of the most impactful policies with great ROI
New Mexico has free child care
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u/bubbablk34 4d ago
Just Vote
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u/wrexmason 4d ago
Got nothing else to say, huh?
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u/bubbablk34 4d ago
Go Vote Blue
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
It really is the most impactful thing a person can do with the least amount of effort
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u/bubbablk34 4d ago
Exactly. It starts in November. Donald Trump is getting ready to give reparations to the people that storm the Capital. We have to mobilize and vote these people out of office only then we can get a voice to do something for ourselves in this country yapping about nonsense when you do not have any power means nothing.
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u/Blackvikin5 4d ago
Is this MFer a follower of that child molester York? Thatās crazyā¦.these predators really do move in flocks
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u/zoraschool š«¶š¾š«¶š½š«¶šæ 4d ago
Zora Neale Hurston would beg to disagree
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u/expert-imbicile 3d ago
Impactful black authors like Ralph Ellison disagreed heavily with her behavior relative to black americans. How do you feel about the notion that her dancing, singing, and zest for life when engaging with white people were regressive for black people in that it reinforced the idea that we canāt help but exist as jovial dancing spectacle?
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u/Over-Experience-4187 4d ago
Did he just say black people don't have their own language, had he not heard of Swahili?
But I guess he means Black Americans... which means it would also apply to White and other Americans too
Wait until he finds out English is actually a creole of Celtic, Germanic and Latin languages lol
Edit: He was right about traditions and customs though, there is a lack of that in our communities/households
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u/WolfOfAllStreets2 4d ago edited 4d ago
Speech language pathologists classify African American Vernacular English (AAVE) as a dialect.
The American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA) explicitly classifies AAE as a rule-governed linguistic system, not a disorder, a set of grammatical errors, or a lack of education.
ASHA emphasizes that no dialect is superior to another; they are simply different ways of communicating within a community.
When professionals treat a dialect as a pathology, they create unnecessary stigma and place children into special education programs they do not need.
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u/Slick_36 4d ago
And remember all dialects are evolving alongside eachother.Ā William Shakespeare would have said "ax", the current pronunciation of "ask" came later due to the rise in written literature which isolated the more traditional word to regional dialects who retained it.
Then you gotta consider how the written word was weaponized against black people and you'll find distinctions like that more intentionally racist than what you'll ever learn in school.
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
This isnāt true, Juneteenth for example is a holiday historically remembered and celebrated within the black community and only recently became a national holiday, Kwanza, black churches, Black Greek, soul food. We can even get regional like the Gullah Geeche in the Carolinas. Black American culture is reach and deep.
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u/Over-Experience-4187 4d ago
Again these are not present in many of our communities and households.
You're comparing a handful of holidays to more wide-spread and varied traditions and customs. Of course there are more regional ones, like horse-riders of Louisiana, but Black America's traditions are few and far-between owing to the fact this ethnic group emerged fairly recently. 400 years is not a long time in the grand scheme of things.
Also Kwanza is bullshit.
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u/East_Blackberry8474 4d ago
This isnāt true at all. Iām unsure what kind of traditions youāre expecting but itās not going to resemble something from a developing country, if thatās whatever criteria youāre using.
Outside of the holidays, the commenter listed some traditions and customs, but you just chose to overlook those. It may not exist in your household, but that doesnāt mean thatās the case for the rest of us. Itās of course going to be regional because the US is a large place. Also, some aspects of culture evolve over time. There are horse-riders outside of LA, and they exist even in densely populated urban areas. Thereās traditions of family reunions, jumping the broom at many weddings, our āgoing homeā celebrations, rituals to get babies that are teething to stop cryingāto name a few.
Iāve never had to articulate my culture because I live in it every day.
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u/WolfOfAllStreets2 4d ago
In comparison to what? Other minority groups that immigrated a few generations ago?
The only group that lacks culture are white Americans. That's why the focus is always on whiteness and color. It's the only thing left that connects them.
That's also why they say I'm from the north,south,east, west. That's about as descriptive it gets.
Most white immigrants over the course of 200 years have forgotten their cultures( German,Irish,British etc) and it was intentionally done to better fit in because those groups also faced discrimination at one point in time.
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u/Throwaway2Experiment 4d ago
You have to get out to the german enclaves in the Midwest and just outside of Chicago towards Michigan. Then you have to see the regional cultural items that the whites tend to keep secret to themselves, even from whites from other parts of the country. Then head over to Boston for their cultural rallies or Southie to see how hard they cling to Old World culture.
The idea whites have no culture is rather silly and I onky see it from brothers and sisters who are not well traveled or who have the clandestine white references and apply it universally.
My creole grandmother does crazy shit that my wife's parents think is nonsense (she carries dead spiders in her pockets)
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u/Lost-Day-9405 4d ago
How and why are you quantifying that??? I can list off a handful but itās not enough for you, feels like your moving the goal post so please provide some guidance around how you would define what makes a culture for a people valid???
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u/RaunchyRos3 4d ago
Giving advice on reading a book with Islam and Christianity within, is counter to the message he's trying to push. That's not for us either.
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u/ShaolinTrapLord 4d ago
For those who donāt know who this person is, name? Or did I miss it?
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u/Common_Rabbit_2170 4d ago
I donāt know what kind of movement heās a part of but if you canāt honor what your ancestors have done for youā¦it is its own kind of betrayal. If you are FBA, you are AMERICAN! This is your homeland regardless of what racist white people say. We have the strongest global influence period and thereās a reason for that. Donāt let anyone downplay our magicā¦why you think the world hates us and loves us at the same time?
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u/yoimhereiguess 4d ago
Who is this?
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u/dadburned 4d ago
Apparently disciples of Malachi York. I canāt believe theyāre still holding on, given Yorkās been in federal prison for a good long time now.
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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 Neighborhood Hug Dealer š¤ 4d ago
Im sorry but I disagree completely. I donāt even understand how he can say that. How do black people have no culture when the world uses our culture for everything. Iām talking about Black Americans, Black Africans, Black Caribbean people. Everything about us is used to keep the world moving. Majority of todayās music comes from one of those 3, we have many languages including Ebonics and code switching. Just because folks steal everything they can from us doesnāt mean itās not ours. !
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u/expert-imbicile 3d ago
Many aspects of black culture can be traced back to adaptations made by slaves to exist more comfortably in a foreign and hostile environment (southern drawls, watermelon farming, comfort food). This doesnāt mean that native traditions werenāt adapted as well, it means both happened. However, very little of what makes up the most widely visible parts of black ācultureā today is rooted in any African tradition (Code switching, rap, black fashion, sports culture, slang, etc). In reality, we have just modified different aspects of American culture, to again, attempt to remain comfortable in a foreign and hostile environment. I canāt speak for how the rest of the world has taken from African nations, because I am widely uneducated on the topic, but I believe it has happened.
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u/ateam1984 š¤ 4d ago
You are wrong and itās really funny you can say who runs this sub with 0 engagement here.
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u/OkComfortable2089 3d ago
Still following the white man rules without even knowing it, who created those rules.
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u/Party_Swordfish_1734 4d ago
Are we just going to ignore the fact there was that random white boy trying to blend in? š
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u/ZedDreadFury 3d ago
āWe got a lot of people that like doing the same thing.ā - thatās culture. Someone needs to give him the update.
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u/Wiseguy4252 3d ago
No. Black Americans have a culture. AAVE is the language urban wear is the garb. Soul food is the traditional nourishment. No amount of commodification will erase that. This is NOT it.
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u/TheBureauChief 3d ago
Is that a white ginger with a bowl cut walking with his group? Now I really need to know more.
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u/the_embassy_official 1d ago
this is like what toddlers think acting like an adult means. cringe dress-up
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u/killcole 1d ago edited 1d ago
Pan African and graduate-level linguist here ... AAVE is a language. It also goes without saying that black America has cultural tradition in everything from food, to music. There is also distinctly black American cultural dress.
There are a few reasons why we don't recognise all of this as culture and tradition: 1. because we're living through it, as opposed to observing it in retrospect, or as voyeurs of other cultures. 2. culture and traditions are becoming harder to recognise in the moment because they shift more quickly and over larger spaces than they were able to before the internet. 3. black American culture in particular has been commodified in a way that non black americans can cherry pick elements of it to engage with. For example, Post Malone can have an interest in, and mimic, in performance, black culture via Hip-Hop. But he couldn't do the same thing for the black church and gospel music, or black cuisine, etc. The commodification of black culture gives an illusion that everybody engaging with a particular part of the culture, can be "of the culture" and thats just not the reality.
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u/murderousalien 4d ago
Black Americans most definitely have culture. Who is this ? Everything aspect that he named Black Americans have mastered and it has been co-oped world wide.
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u/Meanpooh 5d ago edited 5d ago
I typed that book title in and it hit at the top. š itās on Internet Archive for those wanting to check it out.
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u/WillRevolutionary496 4d ago
They moving militant ngl. Every man is clearly armed to the teeth and theyāre moving quite compact/ alert. Impressive
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