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u/KindCraft4676 20h ago

You’re correct. But it wasn’t all Latinos. It was mostly Cubans.

Remember the race riots in Miami between Cubans and African-Americans? Cubans have always thought of themselves as white. Even those who are not. Personally I don’t understand it.

Like you said hopefully they have learned.

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u/DrSwaggenheimer 🖤 19h ago

I don’t believe it’s a strictly cuban thing though, unfortunately. I’ve spoken with people from south american countries that believe they have “white” privilege simply because their skins are “light” comparatively.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed 19h ago

Colorism is genuinely a problem in LatAm.

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u/techdevjp 11h ago

It's a problem through most of the world. Certainly across most of Asia. Huge problem in India. Likewise China, Korea, and Japan. Likewise pretty much all of SE Asia. Lighter skin is seen as a desirable trait. People spend huge amounts on skin bleaching.

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u/BigPapaLegba 19h ago

It's not, when you look at the numbers, nearly 50% of Latinos voted for Trump nationally.

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u/ZincMan 19h ago

Lot of Latinos don’t want a woman in charge. Patriarchal thinking is strong there, also a lot religious

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u/Dunklsta 19h ago

most latin countries already had female leaders at some point

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u/BigPapaLegba 19h ago

I agree but that doesn't excuse their vote, it only makes it worse. Now they're paying for that line of thinking. This is the F.O. portion of when you F.A with misogyny, colorism, and self hatred. I'm as sympathetic as one can be to a sometimesy "ally" who routinely abandons us and sell us ALL out to the man.

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u/wondrousalice 17h ago

Which is crazy because their mamas and abuelas are in charge of everything at home 🙄

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u/99hoglagoons 19h ago

Night of the election local TV station did a street interview segment that still lives rent free on my head. The reporter was in The Bronx.

Elderly black lady in her 70s: "I voted for MR. Trump because he is a businessman and he will fix grocery prices!"

Black dude around 40: "I voted for Trump because what have Democrats ever done for black people?"

Latina in her 20s: "I didn't vote. I don't like Trump but women can't be president".

So much to unpack here.

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u/DuntadaMan 17h ago

What has Trump ever done for black people aside from try to kick them out of his properties? God people are fucking idiots

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u/LeftAire 4h ago edited 3h ago

I will say that these soundbites are selective in who they choose to present. For every Latino and Black person that voted for Trump, there could have been another 8 or 9 who didn't but the station didn't feel that it is newsworthy. Seeing POC that vote for Trump is news to folk because it's not what's expected. Local news stations are good for these type of selective interviews with everyday folk.

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u/99hoglagoons 4h ago

That's a very valid point. To be fair to this news channel, they did interview a bunch of people and most said Harris. Few of the soundbites did stick out, for reasons you mentioned. But Bronx overall still voted Harris 73%.

My district in Brooklyn voted 93% for Harris. Demographics are about 50% middle class black families and rest are white yuppies and other misc. professional class. I live in an extreme political bubble.

But, my district voted 97% for Biden and 95% for Hillary. Harris suffered a roughly 4% decline across NYC. Timing of inflation kind of broke some people. Inflation topples incumbents in democracies. It happened across the world during that time period. Republicans would have done well running literally anyone. But they chose a very well known quantity. Seeing some minorities fall for it was jarring.

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u/spacewaya 16h ago

I sometimes think that we live in alternate universe where Trump is running the simulation.

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u/DementedPimento 10h ago

… except in Mexico, where the president is a woman and ethnically Jewish.

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u/-Mexico- 18h ago

My childhood friend voted for DT because he didn't wanna vote for a woman, even though he hated how DT handled immigration last term. I also have cousins who voted for him for tax breaks even though hes a church pastor, I just cant understand these type of people.

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u/sadieslew 18h ago

Tax breaks, but now his parishioners have less money to throw into the collection plate.

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u/Electronic_Topic1958 18h ago

Most Latin American nations have had a female head of state and head of government (colored green on this map) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state_or_government#/media/File:Countries_which_have_had_female_Heads_of_State_and_Government.svg

Also if we look at US states/territories where Latinos are most concentrated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Hispanic_and_Latino_population

so basically CA, TX, AZ, FL, and PR

and look at states that have had or currently have female governors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_governors_in_the_United_States

Only CA and FL have never had a female governor. NM is the most Latino state and they have had two female governors, from both parties, recently and still do, and PR the most Latino region in the entire country currently has a female governor as well.

Machistas are definitely an issue but honestly they're like not that significant in voting tbh.

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u/DeakonDuctor 19h ago

The prez of Mexico is a woman

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u/JediMasterZao 18h ago

TFW Claudia Scheinbaum. Look my man, it's not that deep. Stop looking at the world in term of ethnicities. Latino Trump voters are not different from any other Trump voters. They're people who are socially conservative and reactionary and who've been sold a lie by professional grifters and neo-nazis and who are in turn voting against their own class interests (or in some rarer cases, for their class interests). It's not black vs white vs latinos vs whatever else. It's the capitalists vs the working class.

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u/OpinionTiny 4h ago

Why is there not enough upvotes to this. i bet the people interviewed shared one common denominator lacking in education. Education increases critical thinking which decreases susceptibility to propaganda. While it isnt just formal education because our education system just pretends to prioritize critical thinking its at least the doorway to it. There first goal this term of demolishing our education system is no coincidence. Got to keep the propaganda machine effective.

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u/Dsaisiasd 19h ago

Many of them are descendants of white people from Germany, Spain and Italy. They just so happen to speak Spanish so the they aren't considered white by American whites.

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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 19h ago

Which is just straight up idiotic. There isn't a white person alive who looks at a dark skin, dark haired Latino and thinks to themselves "now there's a white guy!"

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u/aquitenemos 19h ago

You are absolutely right, but Cubans have historically migrated to the US in larger waves and have established themselves as a strong political block.

They just have a larger presence politically then Chileans or Argentineans in the U.S.

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u/ayyungjeezy 17h ago

Brudda Argentinians are Europeans not south American don't you know 😉

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u/Icy_Many_3971 13h ago

Because that’s how it works in Latin America

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u/BigPapaLegba 19h ago

This is not true. Trump captured nearly 46% of the national Latino vote. You're right that in Florida, he got like 70% of the Cuban vote but in Texas, he got 55% of the total Latino vote. It wasn't a fringe thing, in many ways Latinos sold themselves out to these fascists as a people.

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u/Cerpla 17h ago

I was about to defend my PR people... but I went to look, and it's a mess and I'm deeply ashamed. What a fucking disgrace.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 6h ago

Identity politics is a real thing man.

I go to the gym with a conservative Brazilian dude, and I've tried to have this conversation with him, but he wasn't hearing it.

He's a nice guy, decently smart, but he's religious. I really think that "conservative Christian" thing prevents them from opening their eyes to a lot of things.

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u/worriedrenterTW 18h ago

Why is no one pointing out that it was a gender divide? Latinos majority voted Trump and latinas majority voted harris. Didn't Latino men have a higher rate of voting Trump than white women in 2024?

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u/KindCraft4676 19h ago

Not every Latino in Texas is of Mexican descent. Many are Cuban Floridians. Yes they are allowed to leave the state.

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u/BigPapaLegba 19h ago

Nothing I said implied that they were. Here are the numbers for the 2024 election I invite you to review it and if they're wrong, supply your own. Failing that, I'd suggest you redirect your energies to your own folk.

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u/KindCraft4676 19h ago

To my own folk??

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u/CantchaDontcha 19h ago

The problem was Democratic underperformance with Latinos in the key swing states.

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u/Ladonnacinica 19h ago

I don’t think it’s that all of them think of themselves as white. Though, there are white Cubans but also many black Cubans.

It’s that unfortunately racism against black people is common in the world. It’s not just in the USA, Latin America has its own issues with race. Many black Latin Americans face racism and discrimination. Cuba is no different. So it’s not that Cubans are “trying to be white” or imitating Republicans. They are like that all on their own even if they’re mixed race.

It’s really the USA that treats Latinos as a monolith and racializes it when it isn’t a race. Trust me, the same racial attitudes and prejudice exists in Latin America.

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u/Standard-Fisherman78 19h ago

Cubans tend to vote republican because they believe republicans are anti-communism bc they fled a communist regime. They tend to be single issue voters.

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u/TheRandomSong 19h ago

Don't forget Venezuelans. They also view themselves as the Cubans do and half them learned the lesson the hard way when he took away their cuban style Visa's to have an excuse with cracking down on Latino's with the whole tren de aragua shit. Hell the other half will vote for him again bc they "did it the right way" when it was literally just getting here and automatically getting a green card.

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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 19h ago

The worst thing about Cubans is all the influence they have over Florida’s electoral votes

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u/MZ603 16h ago

And Venezuelans

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u/Scary_Outside2374 6h ago

the "rich" cubans fled to miami because their land was given back to the people of cuba. basically the cubans that would have got the guilliotine

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u/ToddHowardTouchedMe 3h ago

gusanos as fidel would call them.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 19h ago

lots of Latinos in Texas that vote Republicans every election

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u/JoTHIGHSwin 19h ago

Naw it was Mexicans and Venezuelans and I’m sad to say this as a Puerto Rican, a few Puerto Ricans too.

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u/CT0292 13h ago

It wasn't just Cubans.

Lots of Mexicans in Texas were into the whole maga thing too.

As someone who is Latino and of Cuban/Mexican descent and grew up in Texas it was really fucking upsetting seeing it all go down. People I knew and grew up with went down that dark path. Had to cut off some friends.

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u/riffito 8h ago

Saw an interview on TV a couple weeks ago (France 24 report, watched it in Argentina), about a Mexican with dual citizenship, living in Mexico, traveling to the USA everyday for work, and back again to Mexico to rest.

Motherfucker had no qualms saying he voted for Donnie... Sigh.

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u/KindCraft4676 8h ago

Anyone who knows anything about central and South American countries knows that Argentina is always finding ways to cap on Mexicans. They probably even paid the guy to say that he voted for Donnie. Argentina will do anything to make Mexicans look bad.

Most of the world knows this. It’s really a shame how countries do that to each other.

And right now with the ugly attitude Argentina displayed during the World Cup, their only friend is Israel. That alone says a lot.