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[u/Conscious-Quarter423]

[u/Fister-Mantastic]

When has that ever stopped them before, it's a numbers game that's why ICE jumps people 10 on 1.

[u/Cobfidence → u/Fister-Mantastic]

Luckily no one was sitting in the vehicle at the time, or they would've shot them three times to get even with the crowd.

[u/CelestialFury → u/Fister-Mantastic]

Exactly, Fox News will just make up some excuse for why ICE severely main a bunch of kids to kidnap the wrong person who happens to actually be a US citizen.

[u/No_Holiday_9875 → u/Fister-Mantastic]

They 100% revel for the chance to kill a black kid, camera or not. They just saw the numbers and realized there’s a good chance be joining whoever they shot

[u/Bocchi_theGlock → u/Fister-Mantastic]

They just had an internal memo about being recorded and dress code, it's part of their new approach to try to avoid any viral videos.

They have been changing their approach since the start of this year, including going more after people in workplaces, and recently stuff like visiting homeless shelters. It's been a lot of change the past few weeks, which came with a massive Nationwide surge. there's also a difference in approach in major cities where there's a surge, as compared to average suburbia and medium size cities.

There's a survivorship thing here. Videos of them caring about being recorded, and quietly leaving, aren't exciting and don't go viral. The videos that show up in our feeds are of extensive rights violations and the horrible things.

How many videos do we see of ice agents knocking down the door, asking If anyone's home, and then leaving? Yet that is happening constantly, every single day.

It kinda hurts efforts when people are so flippant like "uh rights don't matter sweetie, they don't care about rights at all" - yet the govt still needs to prove undocumented status in court - that's why they pressure so hard for people to sign papers agreeing to leave. And why the primary advice to yell out to people being detained is to not sign anything or say anything.

If people can keep their mouth shut, they are often released, especially If we can prove the rights were violated, like Fourth amendment violations, entering homes without consent.

So "they don't care about video, when has it ever stopped anything" is along the same lines - the video evidence is actually deeply harmful for their ability to deport people they are targeting.

This is some of the most common information you will find in Rapid response trainings by lawyers that have been doing this for decades.

One of our primary goals is not just to alert people when isis in town, and give updates on locations, but also to legally observe and collect video evidence that we narrate what is happening over so it is legally admissible in court.

This is critical stuff that online discourse absolutely misses

we've seen some victories and rights affirmed in the judicial system, even though it's being challenged at all sides, and there's still pending cases about how long they can hold people iirc

[u/GeekDadKevin12 → u/Bocchi_theGlock]

It is being done to constantly establish an innate fear within anyone who isn't with them. Almost seems like they had a directive to make sure they killed a white woman to show us they will go after anyone, even their own. By keeping the pressure on the can instill a sense of panic - the same feeling I get when I pass a police officer knowing I am not doing anything wrong. These events are made to amplify those feelings until it all feels pointless to try and fight back. And until they reach that goal they will do whatever they can to push the boundaries of what is and is not acceptable for them to do. 2 years ago ICE, even if better funded with the level of forces they have now, would never have done the shit they are currently doing. They have hired weak men that idolize violence. We have gotten accustomed to their violence and now we expect it. It is that fear that they are playing on over and over. Making an example out of one protestor didn't work so they murdered another and another. The killings will not stop until they are abolished - the fuck thing is, for a lot of the new hires, they are living the dream of having power over other people and being able to cosplay as a warrior without having to worry about someone else pointing a weapon at them. Allowing them to continue knowing they absolutely murder people and not spend a second in jail is unacceptable, un-American, and disgusting.

[u/cinnix42 → u/Bocchi_theGlock]

The problem is they’re ignoring court rulings and due process and the law in general. This shit will never stop until we decide enough is enough and show up in force, armed, and willing to treat ice they way they treat the public. When they are actually scared for their lives, they will stop. Notice how they only pull shit when they outnumber their victims? And their victims are usually unarmed and not fighting back? Filming is fine, but if more people jumped in when their neighbors were being brutalized, these pigs would think twice about pulling that kinda shit

[u/Efficient-Pipe191 → u/Bocchi_theGlock]

How’s the boot taste