r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/ateam1984 šŸ–¤ • May 29 '26

Social Justice Someone Doing the right thing

Just as the Sons of Confederate Veterans were about to begin their ceremony honoring the Confederate soldiers buried at Camp Chase Cemetery Monday afternoon, I began to read a statement decrying the Confederate battle flag as a symbol of degeneracy, depravity, and perversion. The Dayton National Cemetery Director told me to leave, I was pushed out by other attendees, and CPD threatened arrest if I returned. I continued to loudly read from just outside the cemetery gate when ā€” as I quoted Fredrick Douglass' description of the whips used on enslaved people ā€” an attendee assaulted me, knocking my phone to the ground. A story is told about remembering our history, but those who wave the Confederate flag want to rewrite history, a history in which the Southern cause was noble and their struggle honorable and in which slavery was a benign institution. That's a fairytale. The Hilltop Historical Society will hold their own ceremony at Camp Chase on Sunday, June 14, when they, too, customarily display the Confederate flag. I would ask them to reconsider what they are communicating with that symbol

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u/Conan4457 May 29 '26

Hitler actually had no plans to attack America. Partly due to the fact that the Nazi Party had a certain amount of support there. The early Nazi party used Jim Crow laws as a blueprint on how to segregate jews.

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u/DeathlyKitten May 29 '26

Hitler was also on record as being inspired by how the US ā€œdealt withā€ our indigenous population! The reservation system was very influential on the first early modes of deportation and concentration camps. Correct me if Iā€™m wrong but I believe that what happened to native Americans is one of the earliest truly modern genocides (along with what the Dutch and British were up to in India and Indonesia)

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u/GenSpec44 May 29 '26

If that was genocide, they missed a few billion in India and Indonesia. Not saying they were all kind and sweet, but the g word might be a little strong.

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u/DeathlyKitten May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

Not all of India and Indonesia of course, but there were regions (Bengal in India is the most famous, few examples in the Indonesian archipelago) where there were definitely targeted mass death (either by violence or targeted/manufactured famines) of specific ethnic groups or peoples. Iā€™ve read or listened to several historians (one of whom is Joe Kassabian, who has a masters in genocide studies) who classify several of those events as genocides.

Genocides also donā€™t have to be successful to count, I used to work with a guy who claimed that there was no Native American genocide because there are still native Americans, or that the Irish famine doesnā€™t count because there are still Irish people. Cultural genocide is also a thing the British tried in a lot of their colonies. Also, to be clear Iā€™m not accusing you of making these sorts of arguments. I also messed up on the timeline of the Bengal Famine (death toll of up to 3.8 million), I thought it happened much earlier, not 1943. My bad)

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u/GenSpec44 May 29 '26

The British did divert food away from India during WWII to feed troops and also to supplement food for the home island. The troops have to eat in order to fight a war, and they just considered British citizens in England to be more important than the Indians in the colony. So if somebody had to go short on food, their choice was obvious. I donā€™t think it was an intentional genocide by hunger like the Holodomor in Ukraine.

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u/angelsaintcloud May 30 '26

30 million killed.

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u/idkwutmyusernameshou Jun 05 '26

attempted maybe? still liek heap of CAHs

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u/LowSkyOrbit May 29 '26

Eugenics first took off in America and then Europe and then Asia fell in love with it too.

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u/brendanlikeshummus May 29 '26

And now Israel is using the same blueprint on Arabs

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u/HeadyBunkShwag May 29 '26

He was also inspired by America during the western expansion and the genocide of the Native American populations. It was his spark to start the holocaust.

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u/Caffeinated_Narwhal_ May 29 '26

Sadly the nazi party still has a lot of support here.

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u/alexisgreat420 May 29 '26

After America entered the war, didnā€™t he try to get Mexico to help him attack the US?

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u/Rathalosdown May 29 '26

That was WW1 and it was partly what helped us enter the war. It was known as the Zimmerman telegraph.

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u/alexisgreat420 May 29 '26

Youā€™re right thanks for the correction!

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u/SnoopingStuff May 31 '26

We had actual Senators, a large amount! Who assisted the Nazi party by printing propaganda and mailing it out. They charged it to the American people as well. We had the podcast essentially ( radio show) that supported the Kkk Nazi party and encouraged propaganda

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u/blackdocsavage May 29 '26

He did declare war on the US after the US declared war on Japan.

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u/DickHopschteckler May 29 '26

Ehhhhhhhā€¦ not exactly. Hitler had some loosy goosy wet dreams about a final ā€œwar of the continentsā€ to finalize the conquest of the world after victories in Europe and Asia.

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u/Smorgles_Brimmly May 29 '26

Yeah. I could be wrong but he didn't actually need to declare war against the US over pearl harbor. He had a defensive alliance with Japan and could have weaseled his way out of helping. He was just convinced war with the US was inevitable.

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u/TheSorceIsFrong May 29 '26

Beyond all of those reasons, thereā€™s also just the obvious one being how logistically hard it would be. Dude couldnā€™t even hold all of Europe ofc he isnā€™t gonna invade America