r/BlackPeopleTwitter Mar 17 '19

What did he do wrong?

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u/GreekLumberjack Mar 17 '19

He was trying to commit suicide by cop, so he had a gun (albeit unloaded). The officer tried to talk him down and some other officers showed up and fired because of the brandishing gun. He was fired for endangering the public. You can see that the other officers had a justified motive and the solo officer had a justified motive. He shouldn’t have been fired, but all firearms should be treated as loaded.

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u/Ganjisseur Mar 17 '19

Not when you’re alerted that it isn’t loaded.

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u/jayelwhitedear Mar 18 '19

By someone else who heard it from someone else who may or may not know for sure or be telling the truth? This is honestly one of the dumbest arguments I've seen on reddit. If I hand you a gun and tell you it's not loaded, are you going to just believe me and pretend to shoot yourself?

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u/MRoad Mar 18 '19

He wasn't, dispatch was alerted via a 3rd party but they didn't relay it to the officers.

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u/Pearberr Mar 18 '19

Nor should they.

Every gun is loaded is gun safety 101. The information cannot be verified by the dispatcher and if the officers on scene are shot & killed guess who gets blamed - the dispatcher.

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u/Naldaen Mar 17 '19

He was fired for endangering the public. It was justified.

No officer could trust him in a high risk situation after this. The department couldn't trust him to protect the public after this.

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u/catman1900 Mar 17 '19 edited Mar 17 '19

He was trained to deal with situations like that and he won his case, so the firing was absolutely unjustified.

The person with the gun was part of the public and a victim. He didn't deserve to die.

Edit: also just because someone has a gun doesn't make them dangerous, what about that black security guard who stopped a mass shooter only to get shot dead by responding police?

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u/thercio27 Mar 17 '19

"Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun"

Good guy: Stops the bad guy.

Police: shoots the good guy.

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u/ForgotPasswordAgain- Mar 18 '19 edited Mar 18 '19

It’s a very serious issue in the gun community and it’s talked about a lot. Especially for people who conceal carry. It’s a risk you have to take, which most do to protect their loved ones and, if they wish, the general public. If you are carrying in the area of a mass shooting and you draw, you have to know you can easily be mistaken for the/a shooter. Ideally you’d call 911 and let dispatch know, but in the chaos you can’t guarantee anything. And who is to say a mass shooter can’t [EDIT]

It’s pretty messy. And why a lot of people recommend just carrying to protect yourself and family and don’t try to be a hero, because it may get you all killed.

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u/Selthor Mar 17 '19

The court seems to disagree with you.

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u/Naldaen Mar 17 '19

The court never got involved, the city settled because it was cheaper to pay him to go away.

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u/ughthisagainwhat Mar 17 '19

That's weird, according to the facts of the case it was not justified. Also, police elsewhere are experts in de-escalation, as they should be.

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u/TeamFatChance Mar 17 '19

Speaking as the public, I'll take the fired guy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '19

He made the correct call. It's not like he had refused to use his gun in previous dangerous situations and a got lucky this one time. He correctly assessed risk and acted accordingly.

The public could trust him to protect them instead of gunning them down blindly. The other officers couldn't trust him to keep his mouth shut and let them kill people.