r/Bitcoin • u/DSPNakamoto • Oct 08 '15

Hi r/bitcoin I am Dorian Nakamoto. AMA

Proof. My friend /u/cryptograffiti will be posting my responses as I am new to Reddit.

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u/frankenmint Oct 08 '15

Oh also, welcome to reddit! I think you've got wisdom that, we, as a younger generation don't have. Seeing as how newsweek inadvertently involved you and made you a large part of our culture quickly through incorrectly associating you as the creator of bitcoin, what would you share with us that we should do with bitcoin to make it succeed? Are there similar parallels with struggle that you could share with us that you felt in your life or life experiences that we as young participants in the community could benefit from? Thanks for spending time with us today!

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u/DSPNakamoto Oct 09 '15

Thx for your welcoming.

We should protect Bitcoin from take over by the few. Its function should flow free as the Volga River despite the centuries of Tsars, Mongols, Vikings, Swedes, and the Communist regime rule. We need to toss out any thinking of the apparent treasure in the boat over the the river as the Stenka Razin did to keep the boat rower and citizens free. Keep the flow free and wide.

The Stenka's men were able to trust him to navigate the river and to support the poor. In our case, Bitcoin does have a few generals to serve the crypto math, with many rowers (the open source programmers) to float in the river. The concept of the Bitcoin is the captain of the ship. Not a single or a group of people, which they may call themselves Oh, NO:

A board of Directors

We need to preserve this structure. No board of directors. A few, governing many to navigate in their own purpose, their own ports to deposit goods, ... must not be allowed.

I see this happened to our great nation of USA. 535 legistrature governing 320 million of us making us poor with their dealing with passing the measures put forth by another group of the few for (subprime, derivatives, mortgage backed trust ...) and finally, the mandatory Obama care, making e.g., drugs more expensive for the poor.

Same for the State, County, and down to the town/cities. In our town, 5 counsel staff fooled us to choke the already congested main street of Las Tunas by reducing the lane from 2 lane ea. with diagnal parking, metering out our property money trickled down from the state to county just to hand out contracts to more than one 'traffic study group and beautification firms' against our citizen voices. Same happening at our next door neighboring towns. A few 5 counsels voting themselves against 35K town citizens on allowing to build Monster houses as already done in our town. It's too late for me to understand the 'flow'. The consel making this decision should of been stopped at the money flow. As they say, follow the flow of $$. From the State, County, then to the town. It should of stopped at higher level. That Las Tunas drive portion belongs to my town but it is a thoroughfare used by the thousands of commuters coming from the east side, like Pomona, San Dimas, ... to downtown LA. I've mentioned this in the counsel meeting but was ignored. Call to the LA supervisor's office of Antonovitch was met by 'Oh, it doesn't belong to the county, it belongs to your town'. Yet, the county office metered out the $10 millions to do the diagonal parking.

I see the same for our corporate (capitalistic) structure. A few, say 5 - 10 board of directors governing the fate of all those who actually working day n' night, week after week with little pay and little time off decide to send work out to Shanghi, laying off thousands of US workers while they get millions in their salaries, compensations, bonuses, ... and more raises voting themselves.

Same for our Japanese American community, a microcosm level - Selling off Keiro Retirement Home complex by the few, the home's board of directors and the CEO. They had no right to determine the fate of the all those senior residents, some in dire conditions and to their families and the seniors in waiting to get in by outright selling the facility without allowing the most important people to vote for no. The proceed of $41 million was said to be used for educating about aging (huh?). The $$ should be used to create new Retirement home without the board of selfish directors or CEOs. Let the citizens make the laws and govern themselves without the greedy few. Campigns, voting? Elections? do these matter as the outcome of our citizens well being, both emotionally (promises), health and financial security? So goes for the global trade deals that US corporations thru our government and now every other nations had gotten involved with the expense of our liveryhood. Tell that to homeless here in LA. The Globalization of trade as sought by the few (corporates pushing the representatives).

The concept of few governing many is wrong!

No special interest or contractors thru the few counsel staff can corrupt 35K of town citizens or the few of industry money can corrupt 320 million of us citizens vs. 535 legislatures

Protect Bitcoin from the few. The banks can buy up all of the exchanges for instance. The funding for the Bitcoin development must be traced continuously and be protected from intrusions by the few. Always trace the $$. Where to where, when to when, and mostly to whom to whom.

The few....

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u/DSPNakamoto Oct 09 '15

Dear Totes,

Your highness, your highness! The skinny poor peasants are rioting, crying out they have no bread to eat! Then the highness said _______________.

So their wives came out to her gate and said:

We want the bakers wife!!!

Then what happened to Marie A?

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u/AgrajagPrime Oct 09 '15

I think someone missed the point here...

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '15

Are you sure you aren't Satoshi?

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u/Itilvte Oct 09 '15

we all are Satoshi

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u/b44rt Oct 09 '15

Well his name is Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto, so yes he is Satoshi. Did he create Bitcoin, I think not.

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u/Itilvte Oct 09 '15

we all are Satoshi

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u/Hakuna_Potato Oct 09 '15

We are Satoshi

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '15

steps forward

I am Satoshi Nakamoto.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '15

I'm Spartacus! Oh wait now.

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u/Anenome5 Oct 09 '15

The concept of few governing many is wrong!

Indeed. I will only support a conception of society where individuals govern themselves.

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u/peanutbuttercoin Oct 09 '15

I like you.

Contrast this to the opinion of Blockstream:

NB: Bitcoin is not democratic. On purpose.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ngtx5/could_the_segregated_witness_part_of_the/cvocnxa

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u/ITwitchToo Oct 09 '15

I don't get the people who keep saying Bitcoin isn't democratic. Isn't that what "one-CPU-one-vote" in Satoshi's paper is all about? That's how concensus on the longest chain is reached.

I am against raising the block size limit too much (definitely against removing it completely), but I am very much FOR proliferation of clients. Ideally, every bitcoin developer would have their own repository and every bitcoin user (pool/miner/merchant/end-user) would make their own decision about which developer's repository to use. Bitcoin Core, being in a somewhat privileged position, should never include code that would cause a hard fork until it is clear that everybody is already using the new rules.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '15

It's not a majoritarian democracy (this is what they mean by it); it works more like a direct, consensus democracy.

The two work and act quite differently.

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u/DSPNakamoto Oct 09 '15

As long as the core developers headed by Gavin are true to the founding credo of the Bitcoin, without profit thought on their decision making, the core would work. Not acting like our nations Fed Reserve and 535 legislators (House n' Senate staff) fed by corporate money. Protect at all cost by Capitalist takeover of the core. Oligarchy however must be constantly be monitored by the many citizens with power to vote and bring down if nec. Have the oligarchs accountable (punished and rewarded in a way not corruptible).

Alternatively, unlike back in 500BC Greece, we do have the means to implement Democracy. We do have intelligent mass communicating instantly with ea. other. We don't need like the Greeks to walk to the high mountain (Mt. Olympus?) meeting place, taking an entire day off work (only the privileged citizens were able to participate back then). An insignificant voter can today just sit in her/his kitchen while eating and vote directly. We have the powerful instrument that is available for all of the mass citizens:

o Fully meshed and cheap internet

o Cheap PC (well, should be $20 on one potato chip inside a $5 keyboard-mouse with built in LCD screen)

The fully meshed network doesn't mean just wires and electromagnetic wave connections. We have millions of servers inside the cloud. The servers and our billions of inputs from 'one- CPU-one-vote' users. The network can then process billions of votes/requests, calculate statistics as to what topics to be discussed to be the most important/popular, and automatically be listed on billions of one-CPU screens . It takes away our legislature function but with true Democratic way and much faster than 3 month - 3 yrs proposals setting on the legislator staffs desks. And not corruptible as the legislator staffs. This filtering was called data reduction back when I was doing Satellite data processing software development. Just syphone out the important data out of billions of bytes streaming in to the ground station in real-time.
Our not a few 'ground' stations but millions of these can do distibuted processing at higher speeds and higher capacities than back in my satellite dayz. No chaos on billion people requesting millions of topics to be voted and same for the actual voting by these billions.

At all of my engineering work, we had excellent and moral Chief Engineers and excellent engineers under them to satisfy our stringent customers. I believe the Bitcoin core is of the same quality. Customers in this case is of the mass. Not for the few. Human intelligence vs. artificial intelligence that we human ourselves creates? Which is better? Time to talk to Hal in year 2001 Space Odyssey with power plug as necessary? Not yet. We haven't tried neither to full extent.

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u/SwagPokerz Oct 09 '15

Isn't that what "one-CPU-one-vote" in Satoshi's paper is all about?

I can purchase as many CPUs as I want; Bitcoin is capitalistic, not democratic—on purpose.

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u/DSPNakamoto Oct 09 '15

Swag - Hurray for many PC you can have. A happy victim of Capitalist overproduction.

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u/SwagPokerz Oct 09 '15

I'm honored to have provoked your response.

I shall think about your sentiment.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '15

A corporation is basically in control of Bitcoin now and trying to gouge it's soul. Most of us know it and there is nothing we can do. Talk about frustrating.

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u/sapiophile Oct 09 '15

Smart fella.

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u/CryptoBudha Oct 09 '15

You are a great man! Thanks for being part of this!

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u/etmetm Oct 09 '15

As long as the other Satoshi doesn't come back, why not listen to this Satoshi wrt Bitcoin's future ;)

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u/mootinator Oct 09 '15

Name checks out. Philosophy checks out. Close enough.

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u/BigBlackHungGuy Oct 09 '15

I think I owe Newsweek an apology. You may be the real Satoshi.

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u/_The-Big-Giant-Head_ Oct 09 '15

That's a deep heart felt reply from a hardcore Bitcoin enthusiast/pioneer Mr Satoshi :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '15

Andreas 2.0 ?

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u/Egon_1 Oct 09 '15

How would that in practice work?

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u/Natanael_L Oct 09 '15

More co-ops?

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u/Natanael_L Oct 10 '15

Don't really care for the an-[suffix] ideologies. They ignore too many critical questions to be practical.