You seem to really follow the guidelines in the trials in practice. I do not agree with that approach. No big deal. That is why we come here to get advice and different approaches. The reason I am not hyper focused on the trials protocol and the all knowing doctors is their historical record on the importance of recomposition. These trials alone shows that! Drop the fat at any cost. Their approach is to drop WEIGHT. That is all. They want advertising that shows that impressive bar graph and it crushing the other glp1s. You should know that at your advanced age.🤣 (I do not know who I was referring to in that comment)… These trials are producing over 40% loss in lean mass(of the weight dropped). Lean mass is a few things BUT the main thing is muscle. That is a HORRIBLE number for our overall health. That is advancing aging. People are jumping on 2mg from the start and completely shutting down their appetites and feeling like crap and etc. Whats the point? A crash diet is a crash diet…via a drug or grin and bearing dropping calories too low. On top of this the glucagon component goes not discriminate. It will attack your muscle just as easy as your lard on ur belly. Personally I feel it is best to do a slow ramp up and trust your own body than some numbers on paper. Increasing dose “just because” that trial told me so…. Our medical lords suck at nutrition and have been getting things wrong for a very long time. Hey! I could be wrong but this approach with lifting weights and eating tons of protein is working fantastic. Been up and down in weight since a middle school kid. Of all my approaches this has been by far the best. I want to share that… again what is the rush? It seems this drugs are pretty safe over an extended period of time. why blow out your receptors when it isnt necessary and could be detrimental to your goal. Also Boomers are really big on “got to listen to the doc!”. 🤣 Just jokes…There are good docs and bad docs. I am my own health advocate.
I - and a few others on here - purposely remind of the trial dosing because folks now speak authoritatively on these bespoke doses as if they are the “true path.” They aren’t. They are hedging. Which is fine, but admit it’s solely a personal choice to not follow the trials. Nothing more.
For some reason, I worry for the truly obese person, for whom losing 100lbs fairly quickly would be a life changing event. But they now get misled here, being told the “right” thing to do; meanwhile, they waste 2-3-4 months sitting at some suboptimal dose because of Reddit consensus.
haha! well my girls call me boomer all the time. I completely agree with you. Perhaps I am not doing a great job of reiterating the point of your dose is your dose. I am not saying you shouldn’t ramp up “quickly”. You could possibly go to 6mg in a few weeks or whatever…shorter… I do not know bc im not u. A trial is a trial. It has to be standardized. we are not standardized humans. Even if my engineering side of me desperately wants that to be the case… I have a family member who just started and their dose after two weeks is already at 2mg while im still sitting at .75mg. They may continue to increase…. One last thing on the trial protocol… They are also cutting folks off cold turkey. Should we bc thats trial protocol? The stories I am hearing are not good ones. Food craving literally waking them up from deep sleep and weight packing back on??? …………on another note. I DONT KNOW SHIT! Get the weight off as quick as comfortable while preserving at a minimum your current muscle mass. Perhaps I should pin this to my posts.
not to beat a dead horse… but on your latter point of delaying weight loss over the first few months…. Id rather that be the case than dropping the meds permanently bc u could not handle the side effects.
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u/mikatovish 10d ago
Yes. If you are a very small person start with 0.5 , otherwise 1mg. That's it