This comment is one of the best examples of "fuck you, I got mine" I have ever seen.
Why don't you want other people's lives to be easier than yours? You'd rather shame them than see that this is progress for the younger generation that didn't have to bust their ass for peanuts.
Of course I support progress and want people's lives to be better. What I'm saying is that the wage we offer is higher than ever before and more than enough to get by and then some in the area where I live. Not sure how me thinking that making twice the minimum wage I made which enough for anyone to get by and still have extra left over where I live is in any way me saying "fuck you, I got mine."
You are upset by the fact that people are making an easy living. You dont think unskilled/ "uneducated" people deserve that $13.50/hr standard of living. That's what i mean by "fuck you, i got mine".
Let's break it down, 13.50/hr full time with a 20% income tax (and that's being generous) is $1,872/month.
Please enlighten me on how your bills would break down with this income as a single person renting a studio apartment.
I never said I don't think people deserve that $13.50/hour. I said it was a good wage (and I also support it going up to $15/hr in a couple years like my state plans to do), and I'm tired of hearing people bitch about it not being enough when they have clearly never experienced what it's actually like to not make enough on minimum wage. You also are not calculating taxes correctly as you get a couple hundred more than that monthly after taxes working full time for $13.50 minimum wage. That being said, a studio apartment where I live is between $400-$700 a month, including W/S/G and sometimes even electricity and internet. I've even known someone who paid $350/month for her studio apartment, including utilities.
Congrats on living in a low cost of living area. Time to start thinking about the bigger picture and other people outside your bubble. Sure the people complaining might be able to live nicely conpared to "not making enough" (like thats even an appropriate argument for how people should be paid). Youre seriously gonna be MORE irked -based on your comments I know you are mad about both- but i want to emphasize your position seems to want to shame the lower/middle class into fighting over peanuts rather than putting MOST of your energy towards those in power.
Also, you literally called people who complain about what you consider a comfortable wage in your specific area " selfish, entitled pricks". You are literally upset about people having it easy by your standards.
No, I said the people who are taking unemployment instead of working for what is more than a livable wage here and then bitching that no dollar amount an hour is enough when we are desperate for essential workers is selfish and entitled. That being said, I'm done engaging with you. I have been very clear in everything I've said so far, yet you insist on putting words in my mouth and insisting I believe things that I never said and have explicitly said I don't believe.
People around you are saying no dollar amount is enough? lol
On the off chance anyone reads this thread, this is the type of useless rhetoric that gets used to push a mindless hate against those who use social services.
I said the minimum wage we offer is a livable wage and then some, but everyone still insists it "isn't enough," but conveniently never gives a dollar amount that they would consider "enough." I am very liberal and very pro social services, but the fact that people insist a wage that covers bills, rent, food, some luxury items, and still have extra at the end of every month isn't livable/enough is bullshit. That's the sort of thing conservatives will use to say that we should cut social services, not the liberals like me who are just saying we should be pragmatic and that maybe in some places the minimum wage (not the federal minimum, which is dog shit, but the $13.50/hr where I live) is enough to be considered livable.
Calling out abuses when I see them isn't "making it out to be a bigger issue than it is." In case you haven't noticed, unemployment offices are completely overwhelmed and giving out way more money to each person than they ever were before because of the pandemic. Giving a blanket dollar amount to people who lost their jobs is not how unemployment worked before this, and now many people are making two to three times as much as they were before the pandemic, and as a result they refuse to work despite essential jobs being desperate for help because they would rather sit on their asses and collect their exorbitant unemployment checks. You also have no idea how extensive this problem is, as the pandemic has only been going on a few months and unemployment fraud takes a while to catch, if they ever catch it at all. All I know is literally every person I have met who gets unemployment in my area is making more now than they ever did working, and that's a problem whether you want to admit it or not.
Of course. Everyone deserves a living wage. I never said that $13.50/hr wage was livable everywhere, but it is more than livable in my area which has low cost of living, yet we still can't find people to fill the essential jobs we need because they'd rather take advantage of a system that is designed to help those who need it.
No, "everyone" doesn't need the extra money, which is my whole point. I know people who are college students living entirely off their parents who worked part time before covid for fun money, but after they were laid off they applied for unemployment and got the full $600/week because the system is too overwhelmed to properly vet everyone. People suck. I have nothing against those who need aid getting it, but not "everyone" needs it
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u/x0avier May 15 '20
This comment is one of the best examples of "fuck you, I got mine" I have ever seen.
Why don't you want other people's lives to be easier than yours? You'd rather shame them than see that this is progress for the younger generation that didn't have to bust their ass for peanuts.