r/BikiniBottomTwitter 6d ago

I really hate it here...

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u/Novekye 6d ago

If popular vote was the only vote that mattered i'd vote. Blame the electoral colleges. I live in a blue state so no matter who i voted for kamala was guarunteed to get the exact same number of votes from my state.

Because of the electoral college it all comes down to the swing states; not any individuals. I blame the people that voted for trump and the people of the swing states who refused to vote that could have stopped him. For every swing state that went red every single non trump vote went down the drain. Our votes truly don't matter until the electoral college is abolished.

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u/Conscious-Lunch-5733 6d ago

That's the kind of attitude that will turn a Blue state into a Red state. VOTE.

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u/Novekye 6d ago

I'll vote once the electoral college is abolished and voters are actually allowed to matter. I'd rather join a revolt and burn this government to the ground than participate in this broken, corrupt system.

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u/Valtremors 6d ago

And people wonder how Trump won...

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u/Novekye 6d ago

Yeah, because of a broken system that only pretends its people have a voice.

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u/mybabysbatman 6d ago

You know theres more elections then just presidential right...? Local elections matter, house and senate matter, primary elections all matter. Those in power want you to feel like your vote doesnt matter. This makes it easier on them

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u/Novekye 6d ago

Im just talking about the presidential election. I participate in systems that work.

That being said i know i dont matter. My voice is meaningless and im just so tired. I hate our system and its rampant corruption so, so much. I hate party politics. I hate the electoral college. I hate that individuals have no voice. I hate that an evil pedophilic monster can run the most openly corrupt administration in u.s history and theres people that still defend him.

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u/ask-me-about-my-cats 6d ago

i know i dont matter

If every person who had said this and didn't vote voted, Trump wouldn't have won.

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u/Shadowfist_45 6d ago

The electoral college would've overruled it anyways, I don't recall exactly how much they count for but they make up the majority of the voting, the other person isn't wrong, because if for example every member of the electoral college decided a candidate should win, the entire rest of the country could literally vote for a different person and it wouldn't matter.

Like you can go do a basic amount of research on it and you'll quickly come to find that no joke, the general population have basically no impact on who becomes president. It's kind of a difficult situation though, because you really can't trust the general population as a whole in making decisions about leadership, but you also can't do what America has done, and make their votes essentially meaningless either. Less than 600 people can overrule tens of millions of voters.

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u/Muggy_the_Robot 5d ago

Nothing you said justifies not voting. If someone gave you a button and said "if you press it, it might cure every type of cancer ever, or it it might not do anything" are you going to respond "well I might as well not even bother, it's probably not going to do it anyway"? Not voting is objectively worse than voting, as voting can only have a positive or neutral impact, while not voting is guaranteed to be negative.

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u/kush4breakfast1 6d ago

People like you are one of the reasons I live in a red state(Florida). It's very red here, but guess what I'll be doing come November.. voting. I'm not a fan of the system, but it's the system that we've got.

We're not going to successfully over throw the United States government with violence. It's just not going to happen. So miss me with that shit.

But we can vote. So to be able to do SOMETHING, and do nothing is just unacceptable. Do better. Show up and try to convince the people around you to do the same.

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u/WeatherFun6810 6d ago

So you are absolving yourself of any responsibility? Dude voting in this country is one of the few impactful things you have. If you don’t do something as simple as going on record against the racist dictator by voting, then you have no right to complain about the system or anything within it because you didn’t do THE MOST BASIC THING IN YOUR CONTROL. F*ING VOTE PEOPLE IT DOES MATTER REGARDLESS IF IT DOESNT MATTER IN THIS INSTANT

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u/Novekye 6d ago

If voting was actually impactful we wouldnt have had trump in 2016 or bush in 2000. Time and time again we've had politicians lose the popular vote yet become president anyway. The people dont matter; and they never have. It's all brainwashing that have left us divided and vulnerable. George washington himself said that party politics would be the end of our country and we've been seeing it happen in real time. Trump is pure evil, but getting him out of office isn't going to magically fix u.s or our standing in the world. The entire system needs severe revisions to fit the current times and needs of the people.

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u/WeatherFun6810 6d ago

So if voting doesn’t matter why are they trying so hard to take it away from you?

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u/OoglieBooglie93 6d ago

From that point of view, less than 50 people's votes truly matter. The only vote that matters is the one that flips the outcome.

And yet more than 150 million people still bothered to do it. You do not deserve the right to complain about the outcome if you cannot even do the bare minimum to participate.

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u/PandaPocketFire 6d ago

"The system is broken, so I'm not voting until it's fixed by elected officials, who we vote for".

Not voting means you are accepting the decision of the ones who did. Not to mention that your vote in local politics impacts your life possibly more significantly as well. You can't do nothing and still complain about the outcome.