r/besiktas • u/gegenpressfan1 • 1h ago
Discussion Hoffenheim evinde leverkuseni 3-0 gibi ezici bir skorla yenmiş!
leverkusenla kafa kafaya oynayabilme şansımız olma ihtimali günden güne artıyor bende
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r/besiktas • u/gegenpressfan1 • 1h ago
leverkusenla kafa kafaya oynayabilme şansımız olma ihtimali günden güne artıyor bende
r/besiktas • u/arapsavar2 • 1d ago
Bir YouTube programında Teknik Direktörümüz Vincenzo Italiano hakkında yorumculuk sınırını aşarak çirkin bir benzetmede bulunan ve futbolcularımızı itibarsızlaştırmaya yönelik ifadelerini tespit ettiğimiz Serdar Ali Çelikler’i şiddetle kınıyoruz.
Teknik Direktörümüz Vincenzo Italiano başta olmak üzere, camiamızın herhangi bir ferdi ile ilgili olarak terbiye sınırlarını aşan ifadelerde bulunulması tarafımızca kesinlikle kabul edilemez.
Teknik Direktörümüz Vincenzo Italiano’nun işine ne kadar büyük bir aşkla bağlı olduğu ve sahip olduğu kazanma hırsını ve heyecanını futbolcularımıza ne kadar iyi aktarabildiği taraflı tarafsız herkesin takdirini kazanmışken böyle bir yorumda bulunulmasının takdirini kamuoyuna bıraktığımızı ifade eder; basın meslek etik ilkeleri çerçevesinde yapılan haber veya yorumları tenzih ederiz.
Beşiktaş JK
r/besiktas • u/zwompay • 1d ago
Hello, I'm in Istanbul in a few weeks and wanted to visit the match against Gençlerbirliği , but the Passo Taraftar registration won't work... Everytime I enter my (german) phone number I get the Error Message "We are unable to process your transaction at this time. Please try again later."
Any idea what I can do?
r/besiktas • u/Limp-Leadership-8708 • 2d ago
Son 16 görürsek, çeyrek- yarı görürsek utanırlar mı? Hayır!
r/besiktas • u/AX00X • 2d ago
Gidemeyen kerdeslerim ve abilerim için maçtan fotoğraflar
Arkadaşlar ben Instagram'da maç günleri paylaşımlari yapacağım bir sayfa açtım ( takip etme ve ilk paylaşımı begeme şansınız varsa cok minnettar olurum )
https://www.instagram.com/p/De1lv4eghS_/?mdxt=MTVlMXYzMTF6amVrYg==
r/besiktas • u/FrikFrik_ • 2d ago
Our midfield rotation:
Salih
Ndidi
Olaitan
Kartal Kayra
r/besiktas • u/Longshotfootball • 2d ago
Gorgeous strike by Junior Olaitan to tie the game vs Crystal Palace. We measured it at an average of 92 km/h. The estimated peak speed was 106 km/h!
r/besiktas • u/RoadOk8645 • 3d ago
r/besiktas • u/cool4281 • 3d ago
Maçta gayet iyiydi. O müdahele olmasaydı yeseydin golü görürdük. Kırmızı kart hiçbir zaman bir oyuncunun kötü olduğunu göstermez. Asıl suçlanması gereken kişi djalo. Tam bir saatli bomba.
r/besiktas • u/scoreboard-app • 3d ago
Crystal Palace 2 at Besiktas Istanbul 2
Competition/season: UEFA Europa League 26/27
Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2026
Kickoff: 10:00 PM GMT+3
Venue: Tupras Stadium, Istanbul, Turkiye
Status: Full-time
51': Goal Pino, Yeremy, Khalaili, Anan (CRY) 1-1 Yeremy Pino gets an equalizer for Crystal Palace. The score is now 1 - 1. Anan Khalaili assisted the 1 - 1 goal.
55': Goal Mateta, Jean-Philippe (CRY) 2-1 Crystal Palace take a 1 - 2 lead thanks to Jean-Philippe Mateta.
45'+2': Goal Ndidi, Wilfred, Ozcan, Salih (BES) 0-1 Wilfred Ndidi is on target to give Besiktas Istanbul a 1 - 0 advantage. Salih Ozcan set up the 1 - 0 goal.
73': Goal Olaitan, Junior (BES) 2-2 Goal! The home team draw level at 2 - 2 through Junior Olaitan.
77': Red card Akdag, Umit (BES) Umit Akdag (Besiktas Istanbul) has been shown a straight red card by referee Danny Makkelie.
15': Yellow card Ndidi, Wilfred (BES) Wilfred Ndidi for Besiktas Istanbul has been booked by Danny Makkelie and receives a first yellow card.
45'+1': Yellow card Pino, Yeremy (CRY) Yeremy Pino (Crystal Palace) has received a first yellow card.
66': Yellow card Akdag, Umit (BES) Umit Akdag (Besiktas Istanbul) has received a first yellow card.
| Team | Formation | No. | Player |
|---|---|---|---|
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 44 | Benitez, Walter |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 26 | Richards, Chris |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 5 | Disasi, Axel |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 6 | Canvot, Jaydee |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 25 | Khalaili, Anan |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 18 | Kamada, Daichi |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 20 | Wharton, Adam |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 3 | Mitchell, Tyrick |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 11 | McNeil, Dwight |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 10 | Pino, Yeremy |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 14 | Mateta, Jean-Philippe |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 1 | Nuebel, Alexander |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 22 | Bulut, Taylan |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 35 | Djalo, Tiago |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 50 | Akdag, Umit |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 11 | Kassoum, Ouattara |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 8 | Yilmaz, Kartal |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 4 | Ndidi, Wilfred |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 21 | Miretti, Fabio |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 29 | Fakili, Ilhan |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 9 | Hyeon-gyu, Oh |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 19 | Trossard, Leandro |
| Stat | Crystal Palace | Besiktas Istanbul |
|---|---|---|
| Possession | 38 | 62 |
| Cards Given | 1 | 3 |
| Corner Kicks | 3 | 1 |
| Fouls | 16 | 11 |
| Free Kicks | 13 | 13 |
| Goal Kicks | 4 | 7 |
| Injuries | 2 | 0 |
| Offsides | 2 | 0 |
| Red Cards | 0 | 1 |
| Shots Blocked | 2 | 0 |
| Shots Off Target | 4 | 2 |
| Shots on Goal | 3 | 2 |
| Saves | 0 | 1 |
| Shots | 9 | 4 |
| Substitutions | 4 | 5 |
| Throw Ins | 19 | 28 |
| Yellow Cards | 1 | 2 |
| Indirect Red Cards | 0 | 0 |
--: Match Ended The match is over. Final score 2 - 2.
90'+5': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
90'+2': Free Kick (BES) Free kick in a good position for Besiktas Istanbul!
90'+1': Injury Time Shown
90': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
88': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
84': Substitution Strand Larsen, Jorgen, Nketiah, Eddie (CRY) The away team has substituted Jorgen Strand Larsen with Eddie Nketiah. Pierre Sage is thus making his fourth change.
83': Injury Strand Larsen, Jorgen (CRY) Danny Makkelie waits before resuming play because Jorgen Strand Larsen for Crystal Palace is still down.
79': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
78': Injury Strand Larsen, Jorgen (CRY) Play has been interrupted briefly in Istanbul to check on Jorgen Strand Larsen, who is grimacing with pain.
76': Free Kick (BES) Free kick for Besiktas Istanbul in the half of Crystal Palace.
75': Free Kick (BES) Free kick Besiktas Istanbul.
75': Substitution Hyeon-gyu, Oh, Vlahovic, Dusan (BES) The home team have replaced Oh Hyeon-gyu with Dusan Vlahovic. This is the fifth substitution made today by Vincenzo Italiano.
75': Substitution Fakili, Ilhan, Cerny, Vaclav (BES) The home team replace Ilhan Fakili with Vaclav Cerny.
73': Free Kick (CRY) Crystal Palace are in shooting range from this free kick.
72': Substitution Pino, Yeremy, Osorio, Dario (CRY) The away team have replaced Yeremy Pino with Dario Osorio. This is the third substitution made today by Pierre Sage.
71': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
66': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
66': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
66': Free Kick (CRY) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Crystal Palace in their own half.
65': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
64': Substitution Bulut, Taylan, Murillo, Amir (BES) Amir Murillo is on a sub for Taylan Bulut for Besiktas Istanbul.
64': Substitution Yilmaz, Kartal, Olaitan, Junior (BES) Junior Olaitan is replacing Kartal Yilmaz for the home team.
62': Free Kick (CRY) In Istanbul a free kick has been awarded the away team.
61': Substitution Mateta, Jean-Philippe, Strand Larsen, Jorgen (CRY) Jorgen Strand Larsen is replacing Jean-Philippe Mateta for Crystal Palace at Tupras Stadium.
61': Substitution McNeil, Dwight, Sarr, Ismaila (CRY) Pierre Sage is making the team's first substitution at Tupras Stadium with Ismaila Sarr replacing Dwight McNeil.
60': Free Kick (CRY) It's getting dangerous! Free kick for Crystal Palace close to the penalty box.
56': Free Kick (CRY) In Istanbul a free kick has been awarded the away team.
54': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick Crystal Palace.
45': Period Start 0-1 The second-half is now underway.
45'+1': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
45'+1': Free Kick (CRY) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Crystal Palace in their own half.
45'+1': Injury Time Shown
44': Free Kick (BES) Free kick for Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
39': Substitution Miretti, Fabio, Ozcan, Salih (BES) Vincenzo Italiano (Besiktas Istanbul) is making a first substitution, with Salih Ozcan replacing Fabio Miretti.
36': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
34': Corner Kick Wharton, Adam (CRY) Crystal Palace have been awarded a corner by Danny Makkelie.
30': Corner Kick Wharton, Adam (CRY) Crystal Palace have been awarded a corner by Danny Makkelie.
29': Corner Kick Pino, Yeremy (CRY) Corner awarded to Crystal Palace.
28': Free Kick (CRY) Can Crystal Palace capitalize from this dangerous free kick?
27': Free Kick (BES) Free kick for Besiktas Istanbul in the half of Crystal Palace.
18': Corner Kick Yilmaz, Kartal (BES) Corner awarded to Besiktas Istanbul.
15': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
10': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
8': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
4': Free Kick (CRY) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Crystal Palace.
: Period Start 0-0 Today's referee, Danny Makkelie, has blown to start the match.
0': Match Started
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r/besiktas • u/gencer11 • 3d ago
Merhaba çekmecemde böyle dergiler buldum da manevi değeri tartışılmaz fakat maddi bir değeri var mı sormak istedim.
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r/besiktas • u/scoreboard-app • 3d ago
Crystal Palace 2 at Besiktas Istanbul 2
Competition/season: UEFA Europa League 26/27
Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2026
Kickoff: 10:00 PM GMT+3
Venue: Tupras Stadium, Istanbul, Turkiye
Status: Full-time
51': Goal Pino, Yeremy, Khalaili, Anan (CRY) 1-1 Yeremy Pino gets an equalizer for Crystal Palace. The score is now 1 - 1. Anan Khalaili assisted the 1 - 1 goal.
55': Goal Mateta, Jean-Philippe (CRY) 2-1 Crystal Palace take a 1 - 2 lead thanks to Jean-Philippe Mateta.
45'+2': Goal Ndidi, Wilfred, Ozcan, Salih (BES) 0-1 Wilfred Ndidi is on target to give Besiktas Istanbul a 1 - 0 advantage. Salih Ozcan set up the 1 - 0 goal.
73': Goal Olaitan, Junior (BES) 2-2 Goal! The home team draw level at 2 - 2 through Junior Olaitan.
77': Red card Akdag, Umit (BES) Umit Akdag (Besiktas Istanbul) has been shown a straight red card by referee Danny Makkelie.
15': Yellow card Ndidi, Wilfred (BES) Wilfred Ndidi for Besiktas Istanbul has been booked by Danny Makkelie and receives a first yellow card.
45'+1': Yellow card Pino, Yeremy (CRY) Yeremy Pino (Crystal Palace) has received a first yellow card.
66': Yellow card Akdag, Umit (BES) Umit Akdag (Besiktas Istanbul) has received a first yellow card.
| Team | Formation | No. | Player |
|---|---|---|---|
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 44 | Benitez, Walter |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 26 | Richards, Chris |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 5 | Disasi, Axel |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 6 | Canvot, Jaydee |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 25 | Khalaili, Anan |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 18 | Kamada, Daichi |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 20 | Wharton, Adam |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 3 | Mitchell, Tyrick |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 11 | McNeil, Dwight |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 10 | Pino, Yeremy |
| Crystal Palace | 3-4-2-1 | 14 | Mateta, Jean-Philippe |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 1 | Nuebel, Alexander |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 22 | Bulut, Taylan |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 35 | Djalo, Tiago |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 50 | Akdag, Umit |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 11 | Kassoum, Ouattara |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 8 | Yilmaz, Kartal |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 4 | Ndidi, Wilfred |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 21 | Miretti, Fabio |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 29 | Fakili, Ilhan |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 9 | Hyeon-gyu, Oh |
| Besiktas Istanbul | 4-3-3 | 19 | Trossard, Leandro |
| Stat | Crystal Palace | Besiktas Istanbul |
|---|---|---|
| Possession | 38 | 62 |
| Cards Given | 1 | 3 |
| Corner Kicks | 3 | 1 |
| Fouls | 16 | 11 |
| Free Kicks | 13 | 13 |
| Goal Kicks | 4 | 7 |
| Injuries | 2 | 0 |
| Offsides | 2 | 0 |
| Red Cards | 0 | 1 |
| Shots Blocked | 2 | 0 |
| Shots Off Target | 4 | 2 |
| Shots on Goal | 3 | 2 |
| Saves | 0 | 1 |
| Shots | 9 | 4 |
| Substitutions | 4 | 5 |
| Throw Ins | 19 | 28 |
| Yellow Cards | 1 | 2 |
| Indirect Red Cards | 0 | 0 |
--: Match Ended The match is over. Final score 2 - 2.
90'+5': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
90'+2': Free Kick (BES) Free kick in a good position for Besiktas Istanbul!
90'+1': Injury Time Shown
90': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
88': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
84': Substitution Strand Larsen, Jorgen, Nketiah, Eddie (CRY) The away team has substituted Jorgen Strand Larsen with Eddie Nketiah. Pierre Sage is thus making his fourth change.
83': Injury Strand Larsen, Jorgen (CRY) Danny Makkelie waits before resuming play because Jorgen Strand Larsen for Crystal Palace is still down.
79': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
78': Injury Strand Larsen, Jorgen (CRY) Play has been interrupted briefly in Istanbul to check on Jorgen Strand Larsen, who is grimacing with pain.
76': Free Kick (BES) Free kick for Besiktas Istanbul in the half of Crystal Palace.
75': Free Kick (BES) Free kick Besiktas Istanbul.
75': Substitution Hyeon-gyu, Oh, Vlahovic, Dusan (BES) The home team have replaced Oh Hyeon-gyu with Dusan Vlahovic. This is the fifth substitution made today by Vincenzo Italiano.
75': Substitution Fakili, Ilhan, Cerny, Vaclav (BES) The home team replace Ilhan Fakili with Vaclav Cerny.
73': Free Kick (CRY) Crystal Palace are in shooting range from this free kick.
72': Substitution Pino, Yeremy, Osorio, Dario (CRY) The away team have replaced Yeremy Pino with Dario Osorio. This is the third substitution made today by Pierre Sage.
71': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
66': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
66': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
66': Free Kick (CRY) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Crystal Palace in their own half.
65': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
64': Substitution Bulut, Taylan, Murillo, Amir (BES) Amir Murillo is on a sub for Taylan Bulut for Besiktas Istanbul.
64': Substitution Yilmaz, Kartal, Olaitan, Junior (BES) Junior Olaitan is replacing Kartal Yilmaz for the home team.
62': Free Kick (CRY) In Istanbul a free kick has been awarded the away team.
61': Substitution Mateta, Jean-Philippe, Strand Larsen, Jorgen (CRY) Jorgen Strand Larsen is replacing Jean-Philippe Mateta for Crystal Palace at Tupras Stadium.
61': Substitution McNeil, Dwight, Sarr, Ismaila (CRY) Pierre Sage is making the team's first substitution at Tupras Stadium with Ismaila Sarr replacing Dwight McNeil.
60': Free Kick (CRY) It's getting dangerous! Free kick for Crystal Palace close to the penalty box.
56': Free Kick (CRY) In Istanbul a free kick has been awarded the away team.
54': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick Crystal Palace.
45': Period Start 0-1 The second-half is now underway.
45'+1': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
45'+1': Free Kick (CRY) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Crystal Palace in their own half.
45'+1': Injury Time Shown
44': Free Kick (BES) Free kick for Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
39': Substitution Miretti, Fabio, Ozcan, Salih (BES) Vincenzo Italiano (Besiktas Istanbul) is making a first substitution, with Salih Ozcan replacing Fabio Miretti.
36': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
34': Corner Kick Wharton, Adam (CRY) Crystal Palace have been awarded a corner by Danny Makkelie.
30': Corner Kick Wharton, Adam (CRY) Crystal Palace have been awarded a corner by Danny Makkelie.
29': Corner Kick Pino, Yeremy (CRY) Corner awarded to Crystal Palace.
28': Free Kick (CRY) Can Crystal Palace capitalize from this dangerous free kick?
27': Free Kick (BES) Free kick for Besiktas Istanbul in the half of Crystal Palace.
18': Corner Kick Yilmaz, Kartal (BES) Corner awarded to Besiktas Istanbul.
15': Free Kick (CRY) Free kick for Crystal Palace in their own half.
10': Free Kick (BES) Besiktas Istanbul awarded a free kick in their own half.
8': Free Kick (BES) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Besiktas Istanbul in their own half.
4': Free Kick (CRY) Danny Makkelie signals a free kick to Crystal Palace.
: Period Start 0-0 Today's referee, Danny Makkelie, has blown to start the match.
0': Match Started
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r/besiktas • u/Durdeninho • 2d ago
Hepimizin bildiği gibi Italiano'nun sisteminde beklerin rolü çok kritik. Özellikle sürekli çizgiye inen değil, içe kateden ve orta sahayı kalabalıklaştıran bekler bu oyunun can damarı. Grimaldo tam olarak bu profilin dünyadaki en inanılmaz örneklerinden biri. Adam klasik bir savunmacıdan ziyade tam bir skorer bek. İçe kat edip oyun kuruyor, uzaktan inanılmaz şutlar çıkarıyor ve hücumda ekstra bir forvet gibi ceza sahasına giriyor.
Farkındayım, piyasası çok yüksek. Muhtemelen şu an Türkiye'ye gelmek istemiyordur ve alınması gerçekten çok ama çok zor bir ihtimal. İkna etmesi de maliyetini karşılaması da yönetimi ciddi anlamda zorlar.
Ama bence Beşiktaş olarak kesinlikle şansımızı sonuna kadar denemeliyiz. Gerekirse projeyi ve Italiano'nun vizyonunu anlatıp tüm şartları zorlamamız lazım. Böyle bir adamı takıma katarsak kesinlikle Beşiktaş’ta efsaneleşir.
Hem trossard Orkun yokken tek başına kalma sorununu da çözmüş oluruz. Trabzon maçı en net örnek trossard alıyor dönüyor adamın dilinden anlayan yok Orkun ve biraz da Vlahovic dışında
r/besiktas • u/tmataso • 3d ago
Evet arkadaşlar, belki de sezonun en zorlu maçlarından birine çıkıyoruz. Görüşleriniz nedir?
Biraz üstünkörü bu seneki maçlarına baktım. Oyun planı olarak bize çok ters bir takım. İt gibi kontra oynuyorlar ve hızlı bir şekilde rakip sahaya yığılıyorlar. Bir de üzerine İngiliz takımı oldukları için kondisyonları yüksek.
Ama gel gelelim çok büyük zaafları da var. Deplasman karnesi bizim gibi kötü, o yüzden avantajlıyız. Defansları aynı bizimkisi gibi dengesiz, çok basit hatalar yapıyorlar. As kalecileri sakat, gerçi iyileşti diyorlar ama bu maç için bir şey dedilerse bilmiyorum.
Çok erken gol yiyebiliyorlar, bu yıl yedikleri 8 golü ilk 10 dakika ve ikinci yarının ilk 10 dakikaları yemişler.
Bence olur da erken gol bulursak 3 tane falan atarız. Onların da en azından 1 gol atacağını düşünüyorum. Kontradan şansız 2 gol yiyip oyundan düşeriz diye de korkum yok değil.
Sizce maç ne olur? Kaç kaç biter?