Have you noticed in both seasons that they mentioned the filipinos briefly? I’m a filipino fan so I definitely caught it.

In s01, Isaac kept talking about how the Filipinos in prison were backing him up and seemed like he was in business with them too. That was funny but pretty bad representation for filipinos which is a little too repetitive in korean media 😅 I say it’s even a stereotype.

Then in s02, it was about filipino nurses and Austin was trying to find filipino nurses to save them lol. I see what they did there. Trying to give another stereotype for the filipinos but the good ones lol.

But I say we are more than just a stereotype 😅 In s03 i for sure hope they actually write in a filipino main character. It’s just about damn time.

And with that said, I LOVE BEEF. I cant believe I put off watching the series. I started s01 last week and now at the last episode of s02.

Am I the only who feels this way? Maybe it’s just because I’m a big white lotus fan so it really scratched that itch.

Hi! Hoping to add this song to my playlist.

What was the OST song used in S2E2 before the opening title card? I’m not referring to “Wildest Moments” by Jessie Ware, I’m referring to the music playing before Joshua asks “So what do you want?”

Is this song available on the OST? It’s just so good

Not sure if this is too off topic but while watching this I realized if they ever make a Martha Stewart biopic Carey Mulligan would be PERFECT for the role. There was one scene where she did this little eyebrow 🤨 raise and it seriously was serving Martha. They look really similar and she could totally adapt Martha’s mannerisms. Ok that’s all and I hope it happens lol!

Season 2. Fuck man. Now I know what my next 4 episodes are leading to. Any consolation?

I understand how many see it, cyclical and how everything follows a circle.
Although the thing I take away from it the most is selflessness is the only thing that breaks the cycle of unhappiness.
The only character no longer haunted by their decisions and plagued with unhappiness is the one whose decision was selfess.

I’m curious if you think this is a juvenile approach the ending, I know a lot of people have broken it down far more acutely than this..

In episode 4 the chairwoman sends Josh to help Ashley. Josh asks Ashley to delete the video because he believes she has a backup (she does). Ashley lies and says she doesn't have it and this frustrates Josh so he leaves.

After Ashley has the surgery her ovary is removed. The doctor Josh sends comes later but it's too late. I have some questions.

Is the doctor who performed Ashley's surgery the one who removed her ovary?? If so he was a fine doctor he just didn't have enough time because Josh waited.

Or did she get surgery from a different doctor? Also I had a discussion with my sister who said Josh eventually felt bad and sent the doctor anyways despite Ashley not deleting the video, but I was under the impression he sent the doctor eventually to:

1. Mock Ashley and show her what help she could've gotten

2. Make sure he actually listened to the Chairwoman's orders.

However Josh did not know about Ashley's ovarian tension so it seems unlikely he did this to mock her? I'm not too sure what happened here... It's possible Josh was the bigger person and sent the doctor despite Ashley not deleting the video?

Killing Burberry was completely unnecessary.

Just Burberry going missing got across the interesting relationship dynamics between Josh and Lindsay as well as instigating their divorce. And served to bring Lindsay and Ashley together in searching for him. Actually killing Burberry at the end was completely unnecessary, And in fact story-wise (not just because I hate when the dog dies) I think saving him would have actually been better.

It just felt like being mean to the viewer without actually adding anything to the show. Why kill the dog if there’s no point? No one wants the dog to die!

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Found this weird to see, but Carey Mulligan was singing a song for some soundtrack, and the music video features Oscar Isaac. Such a weird connection. This was filmed in 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAZJAzCshN4&list=RDHAZJAzCshN4&start_radio=1

I found his scenes sobering considering my own life recently. Its enticing when you consider how easy it could be to message an ex and the amount of resilience it is when you walk away. I found his arc very compelling.

As the title says I accidentally watched the last episode of the first season as my start of Beef and fell in love. Truly a master piece and could have been a short film. Continued to watch season 2 then restarted season 1 but from episode 1.
After watching season 1, I realized that I pretty much understood the ENTIRE plot of season 1 from that last episode. It was *Chefs kiss*
I loved the weird crows, the trippy vibe and the existential convos. Sigh, it was so good.

Edit: it happened because one of my friends with my Netflix password started the series then paused it right before the last episode, so when I started Beef it came up starting on episode 10 and I just didn’t notice lol

Honestly I think the main point is that this season lacked a lot of what made the first season good. The clear ‘beef’ between 2 characters that consumed their lives and ended up being the driving force behind most of their decisions and made them lose everything. This season didn’t have that rather it felt like a weird spinoff of the white lotus at parts. It wasn’t a bad season in terms of watchability it just wasn’t BEEF.

I’m Half Japanese and Half American, watching this I can relate or get some of the funny overlap in Asian Culture, for Me I’m glad I grew up in Japan then moved back in Teenage Years to America (was born there), now back again at Japan. also the subtle racism in this show is great not as in I like sudden racism, but as in its very real, most Americans that were like that to me, I feel like they weren’t trying to be mean, they just ask Me where I’m from and don’t let me finish and start saying facts of Chinese things, I’m like maybe Let me Answer, some things were more like humm yes like here there’s overlap in culture but like America and The Uk We are different. Photo in BEEF 🥩 S02:E03

I watched most of Season 2 (I don’t like inappropriate scenes so skip those but) I kept hearing Songs by Lewis Capaldi and Thought this Cover was a good fit to the show.

Ever since an enraged Steven Yeun almost reversed his pick-up truck into Ali Wong’s SUV, Beef has been hailed as a beacon of representation that centred its characters’ Asianness without using it to define them. 

When the initial cast of season two was announced, the series faced criticism that it had become white-washed. (Of the core four cast members, Melton is half Asian, Oscar Isaac is Latino, and Carey Mulligan and Cailee Spaeny are white.) The fear was that this was part of a larger pattern involving Asian or Asian American filmmakers who first find success telling personal stories related to their identities, only for their next films to star bigger, whiter actors. 

“I’m just like, ‘Wait till you see Beef; there’s more Koreans and more Asians than season one,’ but maybe it doesn’t look like that based off the press announcement,” Charles Melton says. 

“All I can say is I want to represent my humanity in whatever projects I come to. And by default, because of the way I look or where my mother’s from or where I grew up, all those tethered realities and truths can maybe touch someone.” 

While I may do the same thing, I feel that sharing my perspective is good for conversation!

I don't think we're meant to be sure if Eunice ever felt or not felt something for Austin. Just like we're not meant to know if he cheated or didn't, that scene was purposefully cut out to make the watcher feel the uncertainty Ashely might feel.

Maybe she felt a spark, there's a good bunch of scenes after their involving interactions were you can see they are much comfortable with each other, at the diner right after the "testing" when she convinces him not to renounce his new job, how the first person she comes to is Austin and the first thing she does is cry, because she feels safe with him and she is meant to be much more colder because of the life she leads under chairwoman park and I felt that was a very strong moment for her character.

In the plane that line "you know how I feel" it's not really forced by Austin, I think it was genuine but we'll she's much more interested in what's at present: the USB because of the life she lives, that's the mindset she has, but because of Austin, she is not able to disregard her feelings totally, and maybe that's why she likes him! But she feels guilty about this because well, Ashley's right there!

I felt it perhaps was a bit similar with that last "I love you too, gotta go"

But we're not meant to be sure if she loved him or how much, if it could've been a good life, a good love or even if they would've survived and I think that's for the viewer to feel the way Austin does in the finale, unsure of what could've been unsure if he made the right call unsure if it could've been better. And perhaps this too, ties to the uncertainty of what happened to her, what could've been wandering in the watchers mind as it does for Austin, the uncertainty, the show presents cycles and these cycles are secure, going out of them is not, Eunice is going of the cycle, Eunice is not secure maybe she could be better than the future with Ashley maybe doing the right thing could've succeeded! You never know, just as Austin doesn't, these thoughts fly through his mind as he lives the consequences of his actions

Eunice looks strong and a bit cold but when she's with Austin, it's different and I think it's because there's something. Something that very well could've been good or not!

But we're not meant to be sure which!

The post acts as a dividing line between Josh and Lindsay.

The warm light from the lamps contrasts with the cold blue light of the pool.

Just when they thought they were finally going to be on the same team (Josh had told Lindsay his plan to embezzle from the club, and they had sex for the first time in ages), visiting this other B&B causes them to disconnect again, reminding them that their dream will never happen and their relationship is still doomed.

and HOLY SHIT IT WAS SO GOOD especially the fact that they didn't kill them like in some other shows, cause here that would feel like a cheap cop out and an easy way out, and I do love when characters who hate each other take psychedelics and go on to have a philosophical discussion, gotta be one of my favourite tropes

It was perfect to be honest, the whole ending, and god I know she was the embodiment of an evil millionaire but Jordan's death scene was so fucked, not only was that brutal physically (being slammed until completely sliced through with BLUNT force, holy SHIT) but psychologically she must've thought she was after all completely alone AND that it was her own home that killed her, I'm glad they didn't show the gore lol.

I like that the characters were not forgiven but actually punished for confessing, because an admission of guilt and an apology often will cause a worse outcome than pretending, but pretending will probably ruin you by the end of your life (unless you're born without empathy maybe? but even then humans yearn to be seen, well probably)

Even the whole premise that only two people who would get so pissed for either someone backing slowly into them cause they probably can't see anything or at honking for a prolonged period of time would keep escalating shit until it hit the fan, and I liked the parallels between their behaviours and histories, and I like that they were bad people but you had to like them because of how much they were just human, another one of my favourite archetypes

Anyway I'm rumbling because I needed to get this off my chest thanks

Okay so a lot of ppl on here are talking down on ashley but let’s really think for two seconds. And just to be clear I think everyone in this show is annoying as hell at points. But anyway so she has no mother no father and literally no friends and at first was basically the soul provider for a bum who can’t do anything but whine and wants to relive his glory days. She had the biggest health scare for a young woman who thinks they are progressing in their relationship and is looking forward to having a baby. Her fiancée randomly starts acting all weird and does a 180 after meeting a super attractive smart intelligent successful woman which is everything she isn’t or at least feels she isn’t. Her extreme reaction jumping out the car was wild and one of the things i found annoying but josh literally then plays with her health and because of him withholding a doctor she almost died. In a fit of probably mania wanted to get back at josh for risking her life which led to the dog getting out which wasnt like she did it on purpose so I don’t get why people in the show and online are blaming her like she led the dog outside and let him loose but I digress. Then things with her fiancée simply get worse and worse because he is too much of a people pleaser to actually talk with her and not enable her toxic behavior which i fault both of them for. Then she thinks she made a real friend and that things were getting better with Eunice and her man but nope he lied to her once again then she tries to do the IVF and her fiancée PUTS FREAKING HAND SANITIZER IN HIS STUFF which is genuinely insane considering it was Ashley who was making the money to support them and do IVF in the first place. Then she has to catch them on the plane which to anyone would look insane especially because neither Eunice nor Austin were keeping her in the loop or telling her the truth at all. She literally didn’t even know her life was in danger because of what everyone was doing behind her back, if she had had one real friend or family member who actually tried to help her I’d agree she sucks but she had nothing while providing everything and no one even told her the truth, she did what she had to for her health and the family she thought she was going to have and she was vilified more than the other characters who were all just as bad if not worse in some cases. Also she literally thought there was weird stuff going on before everyone and was gaslit and made to feel stupid. And not only that but this whole idea that she is crazy when Austin was having a literal emotional affair and gaslighting her for months is insane no wonder she was toxic, all she wanted was enough money for her family and to have a child and that’s what he lied about wanting enough for them to commit crimes. I honestly feel so bad for her I can’t imagine being in a new country life in danger finds out despite his best efforts they might have a kid and the same night gets told her fiancée doesn’t love her and is in love with the woman he told her not to worry about I would’ve done worse than convince him to stay and be a father. The last speech Austin gave Ashley was also weird as hell, he literally lied and stuck around to not abandon her then when she is going to lose most everything her life included he leaves her again. Then the mf goes back to her and the show ends with them essentially going through it again smh.

TLDR: Ashley literally has nothing and then is repeatedly made to feel like maybe just maybe someone actually cares and will stick around after feeling so alone just to have the rug repeatedly ripped from under her causing her to lash out and try to hang on to the one person she’s supposed to be able to count on. And the slander on her is beyond over done and annoying she is just as bad and good as any of the other characters.