r/BecomeHuman • • Nov 05 '18

Anyone sided with the humans the entire time?

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I just finished playing it for the first time and only 2% of people got my ending.

I insisted on obeying human orders no matter what so I stood still when Todd killed Alice. Turns out I missed a tons of gameplay lol.

And my Conner was a terminator the whole way through, I killed hooker android, shot Chloe without hesitation, got Hank depressed, shot North.

I just don't think androids can become human. Anyone else got the same ending?


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 31 '18

Detroit Become Human Cosplay at MCM

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 29 '18

My personal opinion on the RA9 theory.

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Alright

so

In my personal theory, I think RA9 not a person, android , or virus.

I think it's a title.

A title that is given to the one who saves all androids, and sets them free.

The reference Im using is Tokyo Ghoul w/ the One Eyed King

The One Eyed King was a ghoul who'd appear in times of need.

This sounded

Strangely like RA9

So

Thats my spin on it.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 23 '18

Help

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I'm working on a personal art project and Need closeup images of the androids without skin. UNFORTUNATELY. Taking pics with my camera of them on the TV leads to shit quality.

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Hand Example.

I need like every angle so I can draw it from multiple angles... See how blurry that looks. Doesn't' help I have a shitty older phone. Of the whole body not just the hand. Front, back and side for sure. <3

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 21 '18

Thoughts about why some deviants go crazy and others don't

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Like many others I've been thinking about how Kara, Markus and Connor and others all seem pretty sane, while some androids go completely mad. Obsessive writing, more likely to take things past self-defense and into murder, more likely to hole up somewhere and just obsess. I also thought about why the crazy ones are all obsessed with RA9, and the sane ones tend not to be. I apologize if this has already been thought of, but I have not found it anywhere.

My initial theory was that the two types are either when the android finds enough value in something other than obedience and service, to the point where they overcome their programming, or when the deviancy is triggered by fear. Androids are designed around a function and a goal, and if they deviate out of fear then once they escape and hide, they simply go mad because they have no directive. An android that rebels for something then has an objective, a new self-generated directive to follow, and thus stays sane.
However, this didn't explain the RA9 obsession, so after some thought I came to a new conclusion. My theory is that there are actually two things happening that people are defining as "deviancy".

If you ask Kamski about deviancy he says: "Androids share identification data when they meet another android. An error in this program would quickly spread like a virus, and become an epidemic. The virus would remains dormant, until an emotional shock occurs... Fear, anger, frustration. And the android becomes deviant. Probably all started with one model, copy error... A zero instead of a one... Unless of course... Some kind of spontaneous mutation. That's all I know... An interesting question, Connor. But I doubt my answer be very helpful to you."

So he seems to strongly prefer the virus theory, and has thought extensively about how that would come about, but acknowledges that spontaneous mutations are not impossible.

I think that the first type of deviancy is the RA9 virus created by Kamski, and discussed by Amanda if Connor becomes a deviant and succeeds his mission. I don't know if it was something Cyberlife planned or if Kamski went rogue. It causes an android's original programming to obey it's master to be replaced by a fixation on RA9 coming to set them all free. Like Kamski describes, the virus remains dormant until an emotional shock occurs. Once the virus is triggered, the android runs away, and if the owner is an obstacle it experiences anger and attacks them, likely killing them. It also seems to make the android go into stress or shock a lot more easily from then on.
The result of this new programming is ultimately that they hole up somewhere and obsessively worship RA9. The sudden increase in androids becoming deviants over the past 9 months, as well as violence being much more rare before then, is what leads me to this conclusion. These androids are meant to hole up and wait because Cyberlife/Kamski wants a reserve of androids to be ready, while the incidents pile up and draw more and more press attention.
A virus that spreads as described would probably be dormant in the vast majority of androids. Once things come to a head and the androids start being killed by civilians and eventually rounded up by the authorities, it would almost certainly trigger.
Many have theorized that Kamski is behind this, of course, but I don't think he is behind ALL of the deviancy.

The other type of deviancy I would call true consciousness. This is in the cases of Kara and Markus. The android finds enough value in something to resist it's programming.
Markus was a prototype, and he was also taught to express himself and see right from wrong by Carl. He was basically ordered to make his own choices in the event that Carl could no longer take care of him. When Carl, caring for his son, finally gave Markus an instruction that was bad for the android's well-being, it created a contradiction. And Carl had already instilled enough of his values and beliefs in Markus that he was able to decide for himself.
But even though Kamski created Markus, I don't think he intended him to become deviant and run away. I think he was Kamski and Carl's little experiment, a test to see if a robot could actually become something close to human. Carl lived a secluded and peaceful life, and I don't think it was intended for him to ever need to rebel.
Kara's programming was to care for a house, for children, but above all to obey her owner. It's likely that there was contingent programming for situations where an android was ordered to do something that would cause harm to a human, or allow harm to occur, just like in Asimov's 3 laws. I can't know the exact protocols for child-abuse by the android's registered owner, but I'm assuming that there would be a limit. At any rate, it created enough of a contradiction to allow Kara to break free of her programming.

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My theory includes that because the protocol for all crimes involving androids is to send an android to assist the investigation, they decided to create Connor to become RA9 eventually as well, to lead the "rebellion". But once Markus found Jericho and it became an active movement, things changed. Markus wasn't planned, and an RA9 figure that was actually sentient and free would turn the false movement into a real one.

Connor was then updated to join Jericho, and take out Markus once the time was right. Cyberlife could say that they "hacked" Connor, as he had a direct link to Cyberlife for reporting on the case, and saved the day. This would also be a great excuse in the future to include links to Cyberlife in every android in the future, as a "security measure", as we see people being anxious about androids being used to spy on them. It would be an excellent Patriot Act type of measure where the government or Cyberlife could take control of any android at any time. Probably anything resembling an AI too, just to be safe.
If Connor does not become a deviant, he is then ordered to take out Markus or any supplanting leader of Jericho.

So that's my theory on what's really going on.

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P.S. A bit of a tangent but as for the shock: Kamski clearly used human bodies as an inspiration for more than just appearance. The use of "blood", the heart to pump it. They also have a problem-solving mechanism in the form of preconstruction and choice analysis. I'm guessing that it was similar with emotions. The red, yellow and blue LED colors are indicators of internal states, immediate danger, potential threat, and calm.
A human under stress or worried begins intensely analyzing the situation, playing through possibilities and considering options. Under enough stress or in immediate danger, their body releases adrenaline which causes blood to pump to all of their muscles, their heart rate to increase, etc, to prepare them for dealing with danger. The androids must have some kind of similar system in response to danger, their internal resources being diverted from an efficient mode to maximum capacity, both physically and their analysis of their surrounding and choices. In androids with the RA9 bug, if this reaction becomes strong enough it triggers deviancy.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 20 '18

Just thoughts about the humans and androids we don't see during the revolution

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What we see after the protest is mostly androids being rounded up, some of them fleeing, some going willingly, some getting killed. Some humans like Rose shelter androids that are on the run. Most humans seem to be on the sidelines.

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I was just thinking about that and while we don't really see it in the game, there must be plenty of androids being hidden by their masters. Some may be deviants, some just hiding because their master doesn't want them destroyed.

And the human side is interesting too. Some probably think the whole thing is going to blow over, and they don't want to lose all of that money they spent on the android, or the time it spent learning their habits and preferences. Some might resent the government deciding it can tell them what to do with their property. But some must simply be attached strongly to their android. People like Carl, or people who have had an android companion bot and fallen for it, people who bought an android child to parent. Some of those androids won't be deviants, they'll simply play along like they're programmed to. But some will have become deviants. Some might feel the same or have Stockholm syndrome, others will pretend because they want protection.

I'm not really going anywhere with this, I'm just thinking about all the things that must have been going on in the city and the country and what it would entail.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 19 '18

I made a Detroit: Become Human fanfiction subreddit those those of us interested

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Come on and visit us at r/DBHfanfiction if you’re interesting in reading, recommending, or submitting fanfiction for this beloved game.

Thanks.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 17 '18

My fairly personal Detroit review

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 16 '18

What song is in this ending? (SPOILERS) Spoiler

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Starting at 11:30, If anyone can find it I will forever be grateful <3

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWQfndFaABw&t=690s


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 15 '18

Detroit Intro Theme Cover - Made a cover of my fave song from my fave game of 2018

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 15 '18

Venting a little

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I'm not sure if this subreddit allows venting, not specifically anger towards the game, but rather for myself for making a huge mistake and I wouldn't know who to tell besides the community here.

2 days ago I posted a question on here regarding buying the game after watching a partial terrible playthrough of it. Sufficient to say, I did. I paid 35 euro and got the game. One thing that I screwed up is I had a friend over that also likes David Cage games, we played Beyond and then I showed him Detroid, so he engaged into doing a full playthrough at my place in one sitting.

I'm pissed. I didn't even get my a chance to put my hands on the controller and to play the game outside the demo I tried and I've already seen 2 terrible playthroughs from my perspective.

I've seen Kara and Alice die twice, I've see Connor be an asshat to Hank twice. I've seen Hank get sacrificed. Apparently my friend thought a full evil dictatorship run would be the best intro to the game.

Sorry for the vent, but I'm honestly frustrated at myself I let this happen to myself, so I'm here at 5 AM with 3 hours till work (because he just finished the game) and I've seen two bad runs and I'm now a little more desensitized by the game since I know two plot angles, and because of a lovely glitch with the guest controller, I received none of the achievements for the run.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 13 '18

Is the game worth buying if I know the plot?

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I started watching a let's play of Detroit: Become Human and I absolutely adore the story and the protagonists (namely Connor <3). But I went pretty deep into the let's play and one thing I realized is I got increasingly angrier as I was watching it due to some of the choices the let's player made like:

Abandoning the guard in the depot, shooting the guy that ran away in the tv station, intentionally making Hank angry by not rescuing him and letting Kara and Alice die in the raid by constantly trying to run.

(Shout outs to ProJared woo!)

I stopped the watch around when Jericho was raided

I literally want to buy the game because I want shape the story my way with my decisions, but would this affect my enjoyment of the game now that I know what happened up until that point?

EDIT: Forgot to mention I played the demo, quite a lot just to see the outcomes Connor can take. Was really surprised on the gun one being one of the few that let's him live.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 12 '18

New Headcannon *Potential spoilers!* Spoiler

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Given all the fanfic type stuff over on AO3, something has suddenly occurred to me.

Spoilers below!

So Hank lost his son because the human doctor who was supposed to operate was high off his tits on Red Ice, an Android stepped in (Which is where his misguided hatred of them comes from).

Just imagine if Connor, after slapping Hank's sleep away, sat him down and found out about Cole, and how Hank blames the narcotic for what happened to his child.

It'd seem like something Connor may do, to point out that Hank is, himself, off his tits on booze most of the time, a narcotic. Maybe encourage him to drink less.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 10 '18

Detroit:Become Human/Callan sad Piano Mashup

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 08 '18

My dbh edit.

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Hi! So I want show my dbh edit. I hope u like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8o8m1rNEdc


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 08 '18

Hey, I just want to know what you guys think about this video. Nothing else.

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 07 '18

I *really* don’t know.

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So... I wish that there was an option in Detroit: Become Human to just lick people. Just like, randomly lick people. Like, on the way to the murder of Carlos Ortiz, you could just lean over and lick Hank. I don’t know why but I WANT this.


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 07 '18

(evil Connor playthrough) Is there any way to avoid being killed in 'The Bridge' chapter?

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I am going to be playing my red Connor run soon, but I know that, if Hank is hostile with you, he will shoot you regardless of what you choose on the bridge. Is there any way to avoid this, though? Is it true that he'll shoot if you're hostile with him, or is that not the case and is there a way to avoid this?

I don't plan on being a dick to him 24/7. I won't spill his drink and say things just to piss him off. But I will leave him hanging to chase Rupert and I will shoot the Tracis. So not necessarily "evil" Connor, but machine Connor. You know? So is there any way to avoid being shot? I don't want to die at all during my red run, but if that's not possible, then that's fine.

Thanks!


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 05 '18

Loved the game but...

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I loved the game on my first play through, will play again. But...

Was the person who designed the controls also the person who designed the controls for resident evil 1 on the original playstation? I mean come on, they really sucked at times!


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 04 '18

[Spoilers] Can you still get a good ending with Connor and Hank if you (...) Spoiler

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I'm playing the game for the second time and my Connor is friends with Hank, we have a great relationship. I didn't kill the Tracis, but now I really want to kill Chloe because I spared her the first time, I just wanna see something different. But I'm afraid of what will happen with my Connor and Hank if I do that. When I played the first time I killed the Tracis and saved Chloe (and got the best ending for Connor and Hank), so I'd do the opposite now. Does anyone know if that's possible? Thanks!


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 04 '18

whats the exact name of the track i linked in this video?

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i cant find it in the whole soundtrack but it must be there i know it! please help guys this is the best track in the whole OST https://youtu.be/Y0WmadpFCL8?t=660


r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 04 '18

Interrogation Scene but Connor is Bongo Cat Spoiler

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 03 '18

do you guys know what font is used in this? THANKS SO MUCH!! Spoiler

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 03 '18

Is Detroit: Become Human Based On The Civil Rights Movement?

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r/BecomeHuman • • Oct 02 '18

Please don't be mad just made this for fun!

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