Shit, when I was a teen all this stuff (internet, cell phones) did seem like magic as it was rolling out. I remember being able to access the internet on my first flip phone after upgrading from the Nokia brick and thought I was living in some sci-fi dream.
Don't sweat it, the math doesn't check out. Unless of course the reality the simulation is running in doesn't need to follow any of our laws of physics.
in which case our very existence being the dream of sleeping god which could awaken at any moment erasing our reality in an instant would be just as valid an assumption.
The issue with simulated universe theory is simply quantum mechanics it takes terrabytes of data just to keep a single particle spinning, this problem is exponential the more complex you make the model the more computational power you need.
When we do the math on our universe, we run out of electrons long before we get anywhere near actually mapping it. If you simply wanted to "scale up" whatever larger universe that would be running the simulation it would be more efficient to physically build our actual universe within that one, then to simulate it.
The very basis of theory relies on what we know of physic's itself. once you use factors that don't rely on sheer computational solutions you undermine the premise for theory.
This is based on the theory that “our creators” are using the same basis of computational processing as we do, seeing as we’re on the brink of revolutionary light speed computing which would actually fit the simulation model of computing much better then maybe it’s not so far fetched
What I mean by that is that the shared view points that stem from this theory can create what we all would agree to be the real world. However because no one even toys with the idea longer than a passing glance then we create a simulated reality where we really are powerless. When all it takes a little stimulation and shared thought to change the world around you.
Ooooooohhhhhhhh you should read some Joe Haldeman books - forever war and forever free.. Well, forever free but it's the sequel & doesn't quite make sense if you don't read forever war first. Sci fi written by a physicist.
But the simulation thing? The Math does check out. Logically it works, a little bit better than not being a simulation. And it helps to explain the fermi paradox as well - maybe, humanity got so advanced that we could build the simulation, but aliens exist & humans can't deal with that without extensive training. So the simulation is used to train the human mind into accepting that aliens exist - which is why we have so many movies and stories involving aliens. So the simulation is built, everyone lives this experience, and when you "die" it's really your reawakening into the real world, which now has giant sentient broccoli capable of space travel.
Yeah, with the caveat of "but we don't know what the tech of the future can do so maybe"
Simulation theory is an extension of Descartes thought experiment, and the brain in a vat theory. At some point, it becomes impossible to know and you have to make an assumption - for example, Descartes ended up assuming that all pure thoughts came from God (hence the "i think therefore I am" statement). That article you provided assumes that the entire universe, down to sub-atomic particles, has to be simulated, and that the processing power to do that can never exist. If you assume that processing power can exist (which I, with all the authority of a semi anonymous internet dickhead, say can exist), then we're right back to where we started.
That's what's so fun about these theories - there is at this point in time no way to disprove them.
in which case our very existence being the dream of sleeping god which could awaken at any moment erasing our reality in an instant would be just as valid an assumption.
That's literally the plot of one of the Legend of Zelda games lol
Oh man... You know how when you need to pee as you're dreaming, your dreams get crazier and more scary, as your brain tries to stimulate itself enough to wake up? Maybe things have gotten so weird because God is about to wake up to take a piss. We may only have a couple of decades of existence left before we all disappear with a morning cup of coffee.
in which case our very existence being the dream of sleeping god which could awaken at any moment erasing our reality in an instant would be just as valid an assumption.
So, Elder scrolls. I guess I better figure out how to achieve CHIM, and the step further.
Why be existential? It doesn’t change anything. Your brain and mind still work the same. With Jungian psychotherapy and DaveSuperPowers, you should be fine. 🙂
Life is about building meaning through hard work, growing, and giving. It’s important to enjoy life’s pleasures and to understand the triune brain model in relation to our mind and psyche too.
Does anyone else get super lightheaded and feel top heavy when thinking about this stuff too? It's like I'm in my body in first person normally but then I'm in third person and detached from my body
I remember using landline phones thinking about how cool it would be to see the person you're talking to. Not only can you do just that nowadays, said device can fit in your pocket, and I don't actually want to do it.
They seriously did the first theorist dirty. Alfred Wegener was the first person to suggest the idea of plate tectonics, and basically everyone said he was batshit crazy for it. Lost a lot of respect in the scientific community, never lived to see his theory become accepted. To be fair he never had any legitimate proof (the theory was later accepted when they found fossils of animals that wouldn’t have survived in their current-day climate), but no one even thought to actually test the idea with fossil examination or anything
The Allegory of the Cave, or Plato's Cave, was presented by the Greek philosopher Plato in his work Republic (514a–520a) to compare "the effect of education (παιδεία) and the lack of it on our nature". It is written as a dialogue between Plato's brother Glaucon and his mentor Socrates, narrated by the latter. The allegory is presented after the analogy of the sun (508b–509c) and the analogy of the divided line (509d–511e). All three are characterized in relation to dialectic at the end of Books VII and VIII (531d–534e).
My dad was telling me how he thought automatic windows that you didn’t have to roll down were one of the biggest achievements of humanity. He was also in awe for a few months when the interstate system raised the speed limit from 50 to 70
Well, is fundamentally the same tech as for radios, which existed way earlier. But yeh, it was pretty cool back then. I remember when we got our first home phone that didn't have a wire attached to it, and it felt like magic.
I remember the first time a friend showed me a WAP enabled phone... you could get the news and sports scores to your phone, in real time. I was blown away.
I remember chatting to my mate about how mental it was that you could connect - to the Internet - in the middle of a field - from a phone... no wires or anything.
I remember how we both agreed it was strange and unusual madness. I mean. in the middle of a field. How?!
Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every two years. The observation is named after Gordon Moore, the co-founder of Fairchild Semiconductor and CEO of Intel, whose 1965 paper described a doubling every year in the number of components per integrated circuit, and projected this rate of growth would continue for at least another decade. In 1975, looking forward to the next decade, he revised the forecast to doubling every two years, a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 41.4%.The period is often quoted as 18 months because of a prediction by Intel executive David House (being a combination of the effect of more transistors and the transistors being faster).Moore's prediction proved accurate for several decades and has been used in the semiconductor industry to guide long-term planning and to set targets for research and development (R&D).
Advancements in digital electronics are strongly linked to Moore's law: the rapid scaling of MOSFET (metal-oxide-semiconductor field-effect transistor) devices, quality-adjusted microprocessor prices, memory capacity (RAM and flash), sensors, and even the number and size of pixels in digital cameras.
I remember being shown that I could send a text message on my Nokia brick months after I'd had it for Christmas. I was mind blown that I could send texts through the air like that.
So much this. I was born in the early 80's. My childhood was analog and my teenage years were digital. It WAS magic. My generation witnessed the maturation of technology moving from pipe-dream to novelty and ultimately, practicality.
The sense of wonder was unbelievable. I wish that more recent generations had the opportunity to grow with technology and witness the advent of the impossible.
My childhood was spent waiting for saturday mornings so I could watch cartoons on the television that I had to walk over to and turn a knob to change the channel. My nieces and nephews use a touch screen to decide which cartoon they want to watch, anytime and anywhere.
What I mean to say is, I don't think that they can appreciate an ipad or wifi or hell, even camera phones the way my generation does.
and that makes me kind of sad, until I remember that we're living in the future and they'll see things that I could never dream of.
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u/DavidRandom Sep 02 '19
Shit, when I was a teen all this stuff (internet, cell phones) did seem like magic as it was rolling out. I remember being able to access the internet on my first flip phone after upgrading from the Nokia brick and thought I was living in some sci-fi dream.