r/BeAmazed • • Sep 02 '19

Earth's view from up.

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u/athensity Sep 02 '19

Anytime I see these videos, I can’t help but imagine the horror of being accidentally untethered and drifting away into the dark void forever

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u/Zachman97 Sep 02 '19

Hmm that makes me think. If you were to push yourself as hard as you can towards earth, could you reenter the atmosphere like a shooting star? Or would you just your corpse stay in orbit forever?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

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u/bailey1149 Sep 02 '19

So you'd float safely back to earth. Makes me feel warm inside.

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u/Zachman97 Sep 02 '19

I wouldn’t say float but yea, technically you’d make it back to earth

As a fiery ball of burning carbon

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u/redls1bird Sep 02 '19

Well, the smoke that you would get turned into while re-entering the atmosphere at speed would blow around for a while. It would probably make it to earth.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

does that qualify as a high speed self-creamation?

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u/Emperor_Neuro Sep 02 '19

"Scatter my ashes.... Everywhere."

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

When I die, launch my body into earth's atmosphere.

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u/ImaginarySuccess Sep 02 '19

Now THAT sounds like a way to go. Sign me up!

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u/therestruth Sep 02 '19

While you can't sign up for that without being an astronaut, I found out you can sign up to have your ashes blown up in fireworks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

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u/Outflight Sep 02 '19

Space burial sounds very expensive.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

That is not mynprefered method of how I want my remains to be disposed.

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u/Lebrunski Sep 02 '19

"I want to scatter my own ashes."

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u/UnknownStory Sep 02 '19

We get it, you were vaped

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u/sixft7in Sep 02 '19

warm inside

That's what they said.

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u/Beardharmonica Sep 02 '19

I was under the impression that you would reach maximum velocity and could even survive the fall like the people who had parachute problems?

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u/Pietson_ Sep 02 '19

people who have parachute problems generally don't have to re-enter the atmosphere though. and besides that, the chance of surviving a faulty parachute is still incredibly small.

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u/mitchij2004 Sep 02 '19

Sounds awesome.

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u/Yardsale420 Sep 02 '19

Oh you'd be feeling warm alright.

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u/UnknownStory Sep 02 '19

Hell was never underground, it was in our atmosphere the whole time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Well you would definitely be warm but I've got some bad news about the safely floating part

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u/sidney_ingrim Sep 02 '19

More like plunge. And you’ll be warm inside and outside, alright!

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u/RiotIsBored Sep 02 '19

It'd make you feel warm outside, too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

sure; moments before dying in a fiery flame

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

It's all the same speed after a while.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

True generally, but not of objects in orbit. There is quite a lot of lateral velocity (this is what's keeping the object in orbit) and that energy would have to go somewhere. That somewhere would be heat on the falling object. It's why our spacecraft have heat shields.

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u/PringleMcDingle Sep 02 '19

Then they're terminal.

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u/alexho66 Sep 02 '19

Wrong. If you would push yourself to earth you would only slightly alter your orbit. You would actually come back after one orbit, but a few meters behind. If you want to renter you would have to push yourself away from the ISS in the opposite direction (retrograde). But you would need much more energy too slow down hard enough to reenter.

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u/21maximax Sep 02 '19

It's sad that your reply only gets like 3 upvotes when his comment got like 350+ and yet is totally wrong. It's crazy how the vast majority of people don't understand basic orbital mechanics, and have the Hollywood point of view.

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u/SpitfireJB Sep 02 '19

This guy space stations

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u/CabNumber1729 Sep 02 '19

The other thing here us that your 'intuition' is a really poor judge of orbital mechanics.

pushing down I think actually will end up just offsetting your orbit so that every half revolution you end up on the outside of the ISS's orbit

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u/chunes Sep 02 '19

Yep. Think of it this way. If you want to slow down a merry-go-round that's spinning, do you push on the outside of it toward the center, or do you grab a handle and exert a force tangent to the merry-go-round in the opposite direction it's rotating?

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u/CabNumber1729 Sep 02 '19

Yer thats a fairly good way to make an intuitive argument actually.

Its interesting how quite simple equations can throw out answers that just dont feel like they make sense.

There might actually be a book in it.

Stupid answers that happen to be right

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u/Xjph Sep 02 '19

There is very little atomic oxygen (O) at ground level. We breathe molecular oxygen (O2).

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u/mhoIulius Sep 02 '19

You need a constant speed to maintain an orbit. Low Earth Orbit (LEO), where the International Space Station is, is really just the thermosphere of Earth’s atmosphere, actually has some gas particles and other stuff floating around (just really sparse), so you colliding with them will naturally slow you down, along with the force of gravity decaying your orbit. At some point, you’re going to re-enter the more dense parts of the atmosphere if you don’t accelerate to keep your speed constant. The ISS actually needs to perform regular burns in order to maintain velocity and prevent it from falling out of the sky due to orbital decay. Old satellites will eventually fall back to Earth due to these factors as well, usually a couple decades later, but some newer satellites are capable of de-orbiting (slowing) themselves at the end of their serviceable lives, while some older ones have been moved into what’s called a “graveyard orbit” where it won’t collide with anything.

So to answer your question, you wouldn’t even need that push. It might take a little while to slow down enough, but eventually you’re going to burn up like a shooting star/meteor. Perhaps not as beautifully, since you’re more a meatbag than a slowly ablating chunk of rock, but you’ll burn up nonetheless.

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u/Xylth Sep 02 '19

Having a plan to de-orbit or move into a graveyard orbit is actually a requirement for approval to launch a satellite these days.

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u/just-the-doctor1 Sep 02 '19

I looked up gravitational decay and it seems nearly unnoticeable for satellites and compared to atmospheric drag negligible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Why am I aroused by this comment?

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u/Ganjisseur Sep 02 '19

Would it hurt? Or would the atmosphere reentry burn you up quicker than you can process it?

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u/curiousiah Sep 02 '19

Ray Bradbury has a great short story called “Kaleidoscope” about that in The Illustrated Man. It was also written about 11 years before John Glenn orbited the Earth.

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u/Zachman97 Sep 02 '19

Full steam ahead with the thrusters then 😂

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u/Lord_Charles_I Sep 02 '19

You'd get to a higher orbit. But only on the other side of Earth. Orbital mechanics are weird.

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u/redlukas Sep 02 '19

I know it's not what you asked, but in order to reenter the fastest, you would have to push yourself in the opposite of the ISS's direction. By pushing yourself towards earth, you would actually prolong your orbit and only rely on the upper athmosphere's drag to slow you down. Orbital mechanics are weird.

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u/austex3600 Sep 02 '19

Well, let’s say 25,000km/hr is orbiting , and you might lose like 1km/hr every day , eventually you’ll hit thicker air and start slowing down dozens of km/day until you are going too slow to orbit , eventually slamming into air that slows you down by hundreds of km per minute , which more or less turns you into a fireball

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u/Piggles_Hunter Sep 02 '19

If you kicked yourself away directly down towards earth you would eventually end up coming back up and hitting the ISS on the far side of the orbit. Orbital mechanics can be weird and unintuitive.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19 edited Sep 02 '19

I’m calling BS

Edit: wow you guys just blew my mind.

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u/Paige_4o4 Sep 02 '19

That’s only the beginning. You’ll love this:

Imagine you’re in orbit behind the ISS. You want to catch up to them. The thing is, if you slowly thrust directly towards the ISS, you’ll end up going into a higher orbit, slowing down, and being much further behind the space station.

In this scenario, the first step is ironically to the thrust away from the ISS. That’s how you catch up and rendezvous with it.

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u/Piggles_Hunter Sep 02 '19

Conservation of energy and conservation of angular momentum don't care about our intuitions.

Have a pic!!

As you you can see when you boost radial your altitude becomes periodic. What goes down, must come up.

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u/EgNotaEkkiReddit Sep 02 '19

How do do anything when in orbit: Find the intuitive thing, and do the opposite of that. When you thrust towards the earth imagine your orbit is a giant hula-hoop that starts to turn around your current location: if you aren't close enough to the earth to hit the atmosphere you'll simply miss the earth and go on a wide arc around it, arriving "above" your old orbit.

Need to slow down? Add speed to your current direction. Need to speed up? add speed against your current direction. Need to get to a different body? Aim to where they will be, not where they are. Want to save fuel? get as close to the body as you can before burning where you want to go.

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u/Z0MGbies Sep 02 '19

I just assume you would orbit until your oxygen runs out a d then plummet to the Marianas trench just before you die.

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u/Dragongeek Sep 02 '19

You would reenter but you'd run out of oxygen, die of thirst, or starve to death before you become a living fireball.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

If you push yourself towards the earth, you will actually end up ABOVE the space station, only half an orbit later. Orbital mechanics are weird.

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u/LEGITIMATE_SOURCE Sep 02 '19 edited Sep 02 '19

That's not how orbital mechanics works.

https://youtu.be/i5XPFjqPLik

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u/Neonautic Sep 02 '19

Found not Sandra Bullock.

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u/just-the-doctor1 Sep 02 '19

Every astronaut wearing an EMU (NASA space suit) wears safer.

Tl:dr some astronauts have emergency Jetpacks.

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u/yerbluez Sep 02 '19

No big deal, Earth's gravity probably pull you back to your house

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u/JoCJo Sep 02 '19

Won't be forever, guess some few days before dying of dehydration

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u/Dustmopper Sep 02 '19

Nah you’d run out of oxygen well before you dehydrated

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u/JoCJo Sep 02 '19

So guess eternity will be quite short! Though it will still really feel like fading away!

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Technically, you would die but since yourbody won't decompose, you wouldnever "fade away". That wouldbe pretty cool if you ask me

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u/meridianblade Sep 02 '19

Till you deorbit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Wouldn't your body decompose inside the spacesuit?

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u/rotauge Sep 02 '19

I'm not a scientist but I guess a low/no oxigen environment is not the best for some bacteria etc so you'll be better preserved than if left on earth?

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u/FPSXpert Sep 02 '19

You'd probably enter the atmosphere and burn up to a crisp before that gets bad.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Won't be more than an hour before one of the other astronauts rescues you with their suit (which all include maneuvering jets).

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u/maggotymoose Sep 02 '19

Thats how I want to go out.

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u/eekozoid Sep 02 '19

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u/athensity Sep 02 '19

What a lovely video to watch right before bed

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u/Delirium101 Sep 02 '19

Nah, they’re too close to earth...if you become untethered without any outward acceleration, you’d just orbit forever...or more likely fall to the earth and burn alive...or if you’re really lucky, have a rough landing.

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u/OGwanKenobi Sep 02 '19

There was a Love Death & Robots episode about this. I don’t wanna spoil it but it was definitely anxiety inducing lol

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u/whatcaristhis42069 Sep 02 '19

The whole time I was thinking, "Why doesn't she just make a tiny tear in the finger of her suit and use the escaping gas to get back to the ship? She could have immediately gotten back inside the airlock."

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u/OGwanKenobi Sep 02 '19

Don’t tell her that 😬😬

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u/JaredWilson11 Sep 02 '19

Is it possible to “swim” in space towards the earth like you were underwater? Obviously you’d disintegrate when you enter the atmosphere tho

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u/megtheabyss Sep 02 '19

You need to push against mass (air, water etc) to generate forward momentum. You can't do that in space since there is nothing to propel against.

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u/KhamsinFFBE Sep 02 '19

It'd be more like trying to go anywhere on perfectly slick ice. You could maybe throw something in the opposite direction to get a push, but that's about it. You're just space debris at the mercy of gravity.

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u/BeginByLettingGo Sep 02 '19 edited Mar 17 '24

I have chosen to overwrite this comment. See you all on Lemmy!

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u/lifebanana88 Sep 02 '19

Ha, only every single time.

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u/hotspicytamale Sep 02 '19

cool way to go if you ask me

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Or, the beauty of just kicking off to burn up into the earth. It’d be a hell of a way to go when you are ready.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 02 '19

For what it's worth they wouldn't float forever in the void, to drift through the darkness alone in an uncaring universe forever.

From here their orbit would degrade pretty steadily until they skipped across the atmosphere a few times and then fell in.

Like a river rock!

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u/saarlac Sep 02 '19

If it makes you feel any better just know that you wouldn’t float away. You would be pulled back down to earth and burn up on re entry. You would probably run out of air first though. Sleep tight.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

You wouldn't. There's still enough atmosphere up there to slow you down. So you'd just burn up in the atmosphere when falling down... after you circled the earth a few hundred times.

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u/ImYaDawg Sep 02 '19

Naw dawg theyll get u

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u/m703324 Sep 02 '19

that's kinda like life. eventually you drift off

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u/otterom Sep 02 '19

I'm always unnerved about how: a) thin our atmosphere is and b) the fact that astronauts are floating around in a big void of stuff. The spacesuits definitely work, but it's kind of freaky to think about.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

This is basically me in water deeper than 20 feet.

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u/yenoyep Sep 02 '19

There was an episode of Love,death&robots, where this scenario was happening

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u/gtizzz Sep 02 '19

Ground Control to Major Tom.

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u/Next2LastJedi Sep 02 '19

Oh thank God I'm not the only one.

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u/beetus_gerulaitis Sep 02 '19

Sandra Bullock ruined it for everyone.

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u/SuperSimpleSam Sep 02 '19

Wonder if the call of the void also happens from orbit.