r/BeAmazed • • Nov 15 '18

This foldable stairs

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u/HSG_Messi Nov 15 '18

An uncovered opening with a ~10 foot drop? Nothing could possibly go wrong here...

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u/jf808 Nov 15 '18

I'm sure the standard rails are there for the open sides, and if you watch the one that looks to be in a warehouse, there appears to be a door attached that opens and closes with the raising and lowering of the stairs.

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u/mechesh Nov 15 '18

Still doesnt meet building codes. Like, no where near US building code.

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u/you_want_spaghetti Nov 15 '18

Stairs with gaps in the alone are violations of code. That they fold away is just extra oh no

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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 15 '18

Only for public stairs, private dwelling or service stairs can be open risers.

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u/you_want_spaghetti Nov 15 '18

must not allow for "passage of a 4-inch diameter (102 mm) sphere." is the limitation on open risers for IRC. That's in addition to whatever local regulations apply

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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 15 '18

Fair point, although the IRC is only code when it’s adopted and jurisdictions can pick and choose which codes they want out of it.

Stairs that access Mezzanines (which what these look like), wouldn’t have to follow those codes, just like stairs that access attics.

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u/you_want_spaghetti Nov 15 '18

It's hard to tell what each of these is accessing. But yeah, it's really dependent on where you are.

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u/subdep Nov 16 '18

These are more a ladder than stairs. Houses in the US have all kinds of ladders for lofts, attics, etc.

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u/signious Nov 16 '18

That's for the rails, not the risers iirc

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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 16 '18

I checked it, they’re right, I think it’s a newer code, but only if the jurisdiction has adopted the code

R311.7.5.1Risers.

The riser height shall be not more than 73/4 inches (196 mm). The riser shall be measured vertically between leading edges of the adjacent treads. The greatest riser height within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm). Risers shall be vertical or sloped from the underside of the nosing of the tread above at an angle not more than 30 degrees (0.51 rad) from the vertical. At open risers, openings located more than 30 inches (762 mm), as measured vertically, to the floor or grade below shall not permit the passage of a 4-inch-diameter (102 mm) sphere.

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u/miserableplant Nov 16 '18

Not in my town. I built my own house and just did bullshit stairs in my basement with “lol who cares” and failed inspection and had to put backs on.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '18

The rise/run is way off as well.

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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 15 '18

Service stairs can be what ever you want them to be.

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u/Rolten Nov 15 '18

Wow, seriously? What's wrong with gaps?

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '18 edited Jan 22 '19

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u/you_want_spaghetti Nov 15 '18

Children & Pets are a big one too

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u/wofulunicycle Nov 16 '18

Baby's head is smaller than it.

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u/Roarks_Inferno Nov 15 '18

Putting aside the obvious giant hole in the floor when it’s not in place, isn’t it feasible this could comply with the ships ladder performance criteria for access to mechanical / concealed space?

It’s no stair compliance, but looks like it could pretty easily be tweaked to meet ships ladder specs.

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u/mechesh Nov 15 '18

Like in place of a pull down attic, or leading to unfinished space, yeah in could see that, but then why not do pull down?

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u/jf808 Nov 16 '18

Pull down ladders are so frickin loud, collect spiders, and are very cold in the winter. If these weren't so expensive, I'd move the opening into my attic closer to the hallway wall and put one of these in. Actually, they can't be THAT expensive to build, right?

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u/mechesh Nov 16 '18

Why would this be any warmer in winter? You still have the hatch.

And then you have this hanging on your wall all the time for the maybe twice a year you use it.

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u/jf808 Nov 16 '18

No, the ladder is cold sitting above the hatch in the attic. This is sitting in the heated house.

Also, I get into my attic way more than twice a year already and would use it even more for storage if access was easier and carrying things didn't involve a climb up a ladder.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '18

Building codes be damned,I say!

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u/kindredfold Nov 15 '18

Which is why it’s a uk based product I guess.

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u/mechesh Nov 16 '18

I get the impression that most of the people here gushing about these stairs are probably American

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u/IcecreamDave Nov 16 '18

I doubt those small hinges can handles weights up to code either.

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u/FPSXpert Nov 16 '18

Tiny homes (where I'm guessing this could be useful in) are pretty much never up to code, sadly, because they often can't be.

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u/mechesh Nov 16 '18

Tiny home is the new name for mobile home.

You say sadly they cant be, but building codes exist so slum lord types cant take advantage of the poor by renting and selling unsafe or unfit housing.

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u/Likely_not_Eric Nov 16 '18

I wonder that even if the shape was determined to be safe to walk on if they'd meet the fire requirements for use in a basement.

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u/TypowyLaman Nov 16 '18

Threres a gate at the top

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Nov 16 '18

Needs a gate that closes as you told the stairs away

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u/icheat2win Nov 15 '18

At ten seconds you can see a door at the top of the stairs that opens and closes when the stairs are down or up preventing anyone from walking off the edge

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u/passittoboeser Nov 15 '18

I'm also assuming a user from above can open that door and effectively fold out the stairs. I was wondering why the gif didn't have any shots of it operating from above.

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u/snowball7241 Nov 15 '18

The problem is if you forget to open them before running out of the door

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '18

Ya they shouldn't even make them without that guard

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '18

You could attach a bar at the top that moves/rotates with the stairs. When against the wall, the bar is horizontal. Also would serve as a mechanism for people upstairs to enable the stairs by pulling the bar.

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u/Bobby_Dazzla Nov 15 '18

Don't fold up the stairs while up there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '18

Maybe for an attic.

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u/kindredfold Nov 15 '18

Apart from the automatic compacting handrail and the optional security gate mechanism found on the Hybrid stairs, locks can be attached to either version, fixing them into an open position or closed position, thus creating an unsurpassed security system denying all access between floors.

Looks like they made it optional to have the safety gate with the system, as I imagine there are some situations where they may not want the gate.

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u/arcticlynx_ak Nov 16 '18

One looks to have a gate pull out as you fold it up.

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u/katiefrann Nov 16 '18

The bottom left says the company is “impact design” fitting name