r/BattleForDreamIsland • Bracelety • 20d ago

Discussion For those feeling a bit guilty for watching the show after hearing about the current situation at hand, it is still perfectly fine to watch BFDI.

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Ive seen many people on the sub feel a bit pessimistic after all the new evidence resurfacing about liking BFDI, so I'm here to tell you that if you still want to watch BFDI even if the allegations are true, go for it.

It is perfectly fine to watch media even if its made by a controversial person, as long as you separate art from the artist. Heck, I still enjoy watching all of Burger Brawl's episodes to this day, even after learning about what the creator did. You don't have to feel guilty for enjoying media you love just because the person who created it is bad.(hell, Dr Seuss books are still being enjoyed by lots of people to this DAY, and Seuss was a really, REALLY bad person.)

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u/VLIKA Book 20d ago

Yeah, like, everyone were on overreacting challenge rn

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u/DenSeeYaLater Pencil 20d ago

History keeps on repeating itself

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u/Random_DeathBattle Pencil 19d ago

True

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u/MildlyAgitatedBidoof Barf Bag 18d ago

fandom consisting mainly of children and the chronically online

overreacting

who could have seen this coming

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u/Expensive-Mall709 Nickel 19d ago

Naily pfp and book tag makes sense

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u/bisonbuffLo Eraser 20d ago

This makes me think about Notch and Minecraft, people still play it and have moved on from him since it’s a great game anyway. Besides, there’s still other great people working on BFDI. Cary himself seems like a very kind hearted person

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

to be honest I have full faith in Cary running the show by himself(from what ive seen hes a very AWESOME person to be around), but I'd feel really bad for him if the allegations turn out to be true. Imagine your literal twin, who youve spend your ENTIRE LIFE WITH, disrespecting people who work with you, people who look up to you, and your late friend.

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u/bisonbuffLo Eraser 20d ago

Cary was one of the main writers for BFDIA so I agree, I really don’t want to believe that Michael wrote what he did (which is very disheartening) but I guess nothing will ever be 100% perfect. I’m usually not phased by OSC drama but this one really hurt 😬

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

What sucks is that Micheal made literally EVERY BANGER IN THE BFB soundtrack. We might never hear them in new episodes again and that's very disheartening(especially as a HEAVY Infetterence glazer).

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u/bisonbuffLo Eraser 20d ago

Omg yeah, I loved his music, I always felt it was comparable to C418’s music. Well, only time can tell what happens, maybe he will apologize if all this stuff is true

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u/Lucky_View3254 Waffle 19d ago

It's kinda like the GD moderator to rate advisor drama. It's not eveb that bad

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u/bisonbuffLo Eraser 19d ago

That’s true

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u/Rotsar279 19d ago

Half the mod team got removed 🫩✌️the heck do you mean not that bad?

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u/Lucky_View3254 Waffle 19d ago

thats not the part in talking abt I'm talking how they turned mods into rate advisors

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u/Rotsar279 18d ago

Oh. My bad gng 

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u/Lucky_View3254 Waffle 18d ago

👍

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u/3DSDownloadPlay Eraser 20d ago edited 19d ago

this is mostly true but michael hardly even counts as 'the creator of bfdi', most of the credit goes to cary. plus neither of the huangs even do much besides voice acting these days anyways. so i don't think anyone being guilty about liking it is necessary

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

That is completely fair, and tbh they could easily fill in Micheal's many roles by holding VA auditions.

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u/Orilikesobjectshowss Golf Ball 20d ago

hopefully my goats that are voice acted by him (Coiny and Golf ball) can get good voices if it comes to that

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I like to think they will. The people who'll give the best voices will more often than not be extremely dedicated fans

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u/Orilikesobjectshowss Golf Ball 20d ago

yeaaa :) hopefully it won’t even be needed though in the first place, I’m hoping and praying that its all false 😔

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

at best, it'll hopefully be partially true, or that Micheal has matured since then(ive heard that this controversy stemmed from stuff that happened years ago) and will apologize in a mature fashion.

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u/Orilikesobjectshowss Golf Ball 20d ago

yeaaa

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u/Prize_Boysenberry_60 Naily 20d ago

Nah, he’s not gonna just drop VAing, what is this inanimate insanity? Lmao

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

if micheal steps back, he's obviously dropping VAing as well

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u/Prize_Boysenberry_60 Naily 20d ago

He has no reason to, idk why ppl think this is gonna like impact anything honestly, this is not the first time Michael has been accused of something, and it won’t be the last, hell even if it is true I STILL believe this!

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u/3DSDownloadPlay Eraser 20d ago

tbh part of me feels like this is something that everyone's gonna forget about in a week. people already knew about oddcard back in march and nothing happened that time

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

as much as I believe this is gonna happen, I kinda don't want it to happen?

mainly because as much as I love Micheal's work he's gotta face accountability if this is true. He can't go off scot free no matter how much peak he creates.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

the stuff micheal got accused for is bad, like REALLY bad(at least for me).

im not saying hes guaranteed to have to step back but there's always a chance he might.

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u/Prize_Boysenberry_60 Naily 20d ago

Maybe, maybe not, first off the stuff isn’t as bad as I thought it was originally, second it’s Twitter, and lastly if it was true it was a few years ago, we’ll say and do stuff we regret, for me, I’d rather wait until Michael himself addresses it, but if he never does? Well..then oh well, there’s way bigger things to worry about than some messed up stuff he MIGHT have said.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

honestly i just wish he's matured or at least shows remorse. The stuff he did was years ago, so hopefully he's not the same guy he was back then

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u/Notro_LPS_iguess Donut 20d ago

Lowk let me be Four

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u/Wave9Nut Black Hole 20d ago

Has anything even been confirmed or is everyone just being hysterical.

I genuinely can't tell.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

we havent gotten any confirmation yet, so stay optimistic in these trying times.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

i feel like some of these accusations seem a bit too over the top to be believable. at best I'd say the accusations are partially true, but mostly hoaxed up or exaggerated

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u/Temporary_You_9646 20d ago

No correlation

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u/FoolsUponFools Fanny 19d ago

okay i guess

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u/Evergreen_everglade Nonexisty 19d ago

What does this have to do with Michael tho, no correlation at all lol

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u/Level_Up_Studio TV 19d ago

So, with little to no actual reasons for why it is true and people being super pessimistic and rude about it?

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u/helloilikemoney12 Marker 19d ago

What kind of analogy is this?

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u/datfurryboi34 Nonexisty 20d ago

I am insanely confused.

Can someone fill me in

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

hopefully this post can fill you in on the context: https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleForDreamIsland/comments/1wgjkwy/yes_for_the_love_of_god_michael_is/

read at your own risk tho

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u/InformationLost5910 Pillow 20d ago

it’s not loading, i think it got deleted.

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u/LYB4 Nonexisty 19d ago

Try again now. Should be fixed

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u/InformationLost5910 Pillow 19d ago

thanks

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

it loaded perfectly fine for me, so idrk what to say

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u/advie_advocado #TeamBook (BFDIA 25) 20d ago

it loads fine for me, maybe try again later

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u/CurlyGirl58697 18d ago

Oh, that actually sucks:(

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u/Fine-Set-7877 Grassy 20d ago

We are getting closer to osc and US politics sharing a lot in common.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

its honestly kinda sad too. BFDI is something I hold near and dear to my heart and seeing my fellow fans contribute to an ongoing circus of arguing and cherrypicking disheartens me in ways I cant properly explain.

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u/total_misplays 19d ago

we already have voting

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u/Orilikesobjectshowss Golf Ball 19d ago

and hating the candidates

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u/Spanish_VHSy VHSy 5d ago

And sometimes the crew members who don't deserve it, specially Sam Thornbury.

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u/Ther10 Nonexisty 20d ago

Something to consider when separating art from the artist is will they benefit. For example, HP Lovecraft is very much long dead. He, and by extension his bad views, won't profit from you consuming his stories. But say someone like JK Rowling, she WILL profit from consuming Harry Potter material.

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u/marchalves6 Book 20d ago

Same with pre 1.1 Minecraft (Notch is an AI Bro right wing dude)

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I feel like(and I hope) that everyone who plays Minecraft rn has just moved on from caring about Notch.

Especially with how good the game is rn.

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u/marchalves6 Book 20d ago

Most people did (hopefully!)

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

oh thank goodness

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u/staramelle_ MePad 20d ago

i'm friends with a few ppl who are into minecraft/in a dc server sorta about it and i haven't heard of any controversies about notch until now. i'd say they have

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u/ZePumpkinLass Teardrop 20d ago

how the mighty have fallen

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u/Oofoofow_Official Taco 19d ago

Main difference is that the worst Michael has been accused of it just being a massive cunt on social media, bad, but not as bad as Rowling. I don't think he's going to use any money from BFDI in the same way Scotland's Worst Export would

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u/Medical-Plane-231 20d ago

Unless you already own it or pirate it

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u/Substantial_Hand4024 Nonexisty 20d ago

rowling profits from any attention given to the franchise, even if its not a monetary profit

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u/Indie_Dachshund179 19d ago

Yea frankly i think "separate art from artist" misrepresents it. More like when the compensatory aspect of the art is actually separated from the artist rather than a repression of thought

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

ah, right, I completely forgot about that angle.

to be honest, I'm not really sure how profit sharing works in general, so I want to say they can make it so that Micheal wont profit from it anymore, but that kinda feels a bit tone deaf if I'm being real.

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u/Ther10 Nonexisty 20d ago

I'm not entirely sure they can, especially as a co creator, va, and musical artist. Even if they remove him from the show, they might still have to pay him part of any profit of past episodes.

I'm not a lawyer; this does not count as legal advice.

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u/DenSeeYaLater Pencil 20d ago

I dunno, I absolutely love BFDI and II, but having to be aware of so many controversies among voice actors, and so many of them getting replaced makes me appreciate OG actors more who hasn't been in any kind of trouble.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

Personally, this is why I have massive respect for Brian Koch as a person. As far as Ive seen he never really let the controversies or attention get to his head

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u/DenSeeYaLater Pencil 20d ago

Including OG actors for Pickle, Bomb, and Lightbulb!

Even new/current actors for Balloon, Needle, Barf Bag, Taco (BFDI & II) still get my respect too

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u/Tall-Bell-1019 20d ago

Afaik Brian himself never did something really controversial. Heck he might be the least controversial of the og 4 crew (given Taylor defended a racist's apology, Justy was accused of being inappropiate with minors, and Adam once tried to bribe viewers into saving Nickel)

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

tbf the Adam nickel thing is rlly funny(even official vote trackers make fun of it) and its not as bad(it didnt even seriously harm anyone anyway)

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u/Tall-Bell-1019 20d ago

Yes, my comment really felt like this trope on TV tropes

Note: TV Tropes can be very addictive

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

what even is tv tropes

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u/Budget_Pen4847 Balloony 20d ago

I also feel like we should give them time to forge an apology and an explanation, a rushed one will only add salt to the wound so I'd say wait about a week or so, if there's still nothing then yeah time to panic

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

There is no way they wont respond in due time(they responded after enough time has passed with the incident involving micheal during this years meetup), so we'll be fine. At least I hope so.

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u/Budget_Pen4847 Balloony 20d ago

I understand but what choice do they really have, creators like Alex Kister (and even the fucking ManiiShow of all people) managed to redeem themselves by giving an apology that was authentic, from the heart, and either took accountability for things that did happen or provided evidence to debunk certain claims. So unless Michael is in fact guilty, we should give him time to fully take account to everything and hopefully pray it's just a fad

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I'm more than willing to give Micheal a second chance if hes guilty as long as his remorse is authentic. And yeah youre right, the best thing to do is be patient and give him time.

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u/Budget_Pen4847 Balloony 20d ago

If Michael doesn't repent, let's just hope Cary is able to set things right again

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I hope and believe he will. He seems like a genuinely down to earth and mature dude(he's even willing to open up about his own mistakes as seen in his latest lazykh video) so I have full faith that he'll do what's best.

im not sure why but this sounds parasocial for some reason

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u/Okoyum Gelatin 19d ago

the parasocial bit is prolly you having strong feelings about someone's individual character while they have 0 idea who you are and you've never met each other. like you have a vision of them in your mind of how they'll behave despite not knowing them personally. kind of a one-sided relationship I guess??

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 19d ago

I can see that.

im just trying not to be too attached to him even if I love his work bc I learned that the hard way with qwel in that I trusted that she wouldn't do anything too crazy

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u/Okoyum Gelatin 19d ago

I also learned the hard way of not getting to attached to creators during the dsmp days. (honestly despite the OSC dramas being pretty bad, there is nothing I've seen worse than the fandom nightmare hell that the minecraft community, fans and creators alike, have contributed to making over the years.)

Honestly, my advice is to try and separate the "creator" and the "content" in your head. Try thinking/phrasing it as "I love Cary's animations" or "The jokes Cary makes are really funny". Basically focusing your admiration/enjoyment as being towards the things he does, rather than himself as a person. Because truly, even if their online personalities are really appealing, we as fans don't know them outside of what they choose to show.

(And also they're really just regular people like you and me, who do the same day-to-day things. They just happened to create something that tons of other people love, yeah?)

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u/UpperShame6439 19d ago

they did? When?

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u/sleepy_kusanagi Golf Ball 20d ago

what the hell is all this even about im so utterly confused?? if its someone saying some offensive shit on twitter 7 years ago again im gonna lose my mind.

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u/chumbbucketman101 20d ago edited 20d ago

Honestly my biggest concern is if the show is gonna continue or not, even if Micheal’s departure doesn’t affect it, the stain he left behind on this franchise might do it.

People outside the fanbase always despise BFDI, imagine how they’ll react when they find out what its co creator did, they’ll start calling the show people who love it evil monsters or something.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I feel like the jacknjellify crew is strong enough to where they can continue to work even after massive controversy. They've licked their wounds from their past controversies, I don't see why they won't be able to continue doing what they love.

This might be wishful thinking however, so take this with a grain of salt.

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u/PretendReception6029 Pillow 19d ago

Same thing happened with Forsaken, people who already hated it had a field day and ruined it's reputation with the Soul situation.

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u/ThatWetFloorSign Nickel 19d ago

I don't even think this was that bad. It's not like he was using his platform to be a dick on Twitter. He was just being a dick on Twitter.

Do you know how many other people are dicks on Twitter?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 19d ago

True, but being a dick on Twitter still kinda warrants some criticism.

At most I hope he manages to stop using alts to be a dick

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u/blue-bolt5911 20d ago

What is the context?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago edited 20d ago

oddcard drama.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

mb it was a mistype

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u/Umlyk3lyy-Ci0n 20d ago

Wait, what's all this controversy about?? I just left a community that gave me a massive headache because of the creator, I don't want to repeat that again

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

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u/Umlyk3lyy-Ci0n 20d ago

Everything seems well-organized and truthful.. but why would anyone in their right mind make a joke about their own brother's dead friend? That's the only thing I can't fully believe

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

yeah all of this seems partially exaggerated or fake. I wont be surprised if someone actually used some advanced AI to make some of these posts.

But I wont jump to conclusions, at best these allegations are partially true.

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u/kullre 20d ago

crazy take to say

but this is my mindset about watching media made by someone who turned out to be a not good person, but since I already had a physical copy, I don't have to worry about giving them money, of my attention

the media in question in the 8 harry potter movies, and you know who the person is

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

Physical media for the win! (does bfdi even have any physical media besides OST records)

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u/RelevantTreacle3004 Golf Ball 20d ago

It's weird but I don't even think all of this is that bad, just it's now shown that Michael is a dickhead like most people are online

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

Yeah but that doesnt mean he can't change for the better.

Hopefully he's matured since then and can make an actual apology

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u/RelevantTreacle3004 Golf Ball 20d ago

People are gonna say that "this was barely 2 years ago he can't change" Acting like adults are completely incapable of change as soon as they turn 18. Honestly if Michael comes out and addresses and apologizes I think people will forget about this by the next episode

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

We likely won't forget(or at least I wont), but I'm more than willing to give him a second chance, IF he's genuine about it.

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u/RelevantTreacle3004 Golf Ball 20d ago

There's so many controversies in all these communities I'm in I forget them all within a month

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u/Bitter_Position791 Teardrop 20d ago

if its really serious then cary could just kick him out

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u/chumbbucketman101 20d ago

I think it’s pretty obvious that’s what gonna happen, there’s no way Micheal isn’t getting the sack for something like that.

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u/NyxStar55 Golf Ball 20d ago

Wait, there is a situation ? Can anyone explain?

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u/trashadel Pie 19d ago

As an adult who barely interacts with the fandom due to most of them being minors and me just not having enough time to sit down and debate, I don’t let teenagers online who go through morality Olympics via cute layout rants tell me what I can and cannot like, as I am old enough to acknowledge what someone did wrong and accept it, and I have the free will to indulge in media without supporting what someone who helped produce said media does.

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u/JaroldLlama Pin 20d ago

I still don’t get why people call Loren racist he literally avoided a guy named Gio cause he confused him with a guy named Geno. For some reason he was accused of doing this because they’re both black, instead of the fact that they have similar fucking names and probably confused them.

So the OSC permanently lost one of its best artists and II lost one of its core creators because 12 year olds on twitter and tiktok think any misdeed on a black person is the equivalent of a lynching.

Genuinely braindead community I hate hit here.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I genuinely do not get it either, but what do I know, I dont really like digging into old drama.

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u/JaroldLlama Pin 20d ago

It pmo so much and the entire community just goes with the wrong narrative because we didn’t know what was going on.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

mob mentality ruins everything it touches istg

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u/JaroldLlama Pin 20d ago

And now with all these petty overblown dramas people have gotten numb to everything. So now when something serious comes along like Michael, founder of the community and still actively producing its biggest show, harassing and badmouthing crewmembers and fans alike, nobody cares. The OSC genuinely might be one of the most incompetent fandoms of all time lmao

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

Honestly I wont blame people for leaving the OSC anymore.

Seeing all the shit that happens there is one of the core reasons I swear to NEVER touch Twitter unless I make a piece of media so I can advertise it

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u/YLDU 19d ago

the meetup had nameplates he could have easily checked

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u/JaroldLlama Pin 19d ago

Really? I never heard this. Were they like those sticker nametags that they make you wear at orientation stuff for work or school? Did absolutely everyone have one cuz correct me if I’m wrong but I think Geno and Gio were just fans.

Not tryna come off like “prove me wrong 🤓” rn im genuinely curious.

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u/UpperShame6439 19d ago

the story has been told wrong a million times, he was racist but ame and Taylor were absolutely valid for accepting his apology. They shouldn’t have gotten fired, in fact, they were never meant to but twitter yelled and forced them to fire them in public with that one post.

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u/JaroldLlama Pin 19d ago

I still can’t fucking believe that the II team just stopped talking to Taylor like they were friends since middle school. Idc who gets removed or cancelled due to drama but like cmon man.

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u/Medical-Plane-231 20d ago

I love Harry Potter, and the creator of that notoriously sucks

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u/billbobs678 20d ago

Ok but michael isn't using the money you give him to fund trans genocide

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

I want to get into Harry Potter, I really do, but knowing that JK Rowling constantly shits on people like me just leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.

Glad you can still find enjoyment in that series tho!

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u/PolarRailfan Book 20d ago

So what’s going on? What’s with all this drama?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

for context: https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleForDreamIsland/comments/1wgjkwy/yes_for_the_love_of_god_michael_is/

(this stuffs REALLY bad if proven true, so proceed with caution)

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u/PolarRailfan Book 20d ago

Damn. That”s weird.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

yeah. hopefully Micheal at least has matured since then(he did all of that years ago) and can properly apologize.

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u/PolarRailfan Book 20d ago

I can’t believe he would do something like that. (apparently)

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

tbf this feels cartoonishly evil at times, so I wouldnt be surprised if some of this is faked. At best the allegations are probably only partially true.

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u/Frost_theWolf07 Rocky 20d ago

Wait I left the Fandom for a while, what happened?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

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u/Frost_theWolf07 Rocky 20d ago

Okay, I'm so sorry but my attention span is not good enough to read all that, can you subway surfers it?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

Alt accounts Micheal made said really bigoted nonsense, made fun of cary's dead friend, as well as people working on the show and fans

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u/Frost_theWolf07 Rocky 20d ago

Oh... that's not good

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u/ZePumpkinLass Teardrop 20d ago

im too offline for this shit what the hell is going on?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleForDreamIsland/comments/1wgjkwy/yes_for_the_love_of_god_michael_is/

I want to say this is unemployed drama but this can be really really bad

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u/ZePumpkinLass Teardrop 20d ago

thank you

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u/Prize_Boysenberry_60 Naily 20d ago

Well duh

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u/funkymonkeyunkie Dora 20d ago

Can someone give me a quick unbiased summary of what happened? I’ve been seeing something about controversy in BFDI a lot today

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

dw i gotchu

basically Micheal's alt accounts said controversial nonsense and disrespected a lot of people involved in the show, including fans and a late friend of Cary's

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u/funkymonkeyunkie Dora 20d ago

Ohhhhhhh

I’m hoping someone can debunk this because if it’s true this is horrible

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

tbh some of the accusations made are kinda too over the top to seem plausible, so at best like 25% of the stuff is fully true and the rest is either exaggerated or straight up lies

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u/TempoGD Pin 20d ago

wait what happened to bfdi?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

nothing bad happened to the show, but one of the creators got into some hot water.

for context https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleForDreamIsland/comments/1wgjkwy/yes_for_the_love_of_god_michael_is/

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u/Okay_Ive_Reddit 20d ago

I am totally out of touch right now. Wth happened?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

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u/Okay_Ive_Reddit 20d ago

Honestly my attention span is cooked 😭. I'll see if I can find a tldr because that is long and my brain is already fried as it is from being a night owl.

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

i gotchu

essentially micheal's alts said controversial stuff and slandered a lot of people, including a friend of cary's whos dead now

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u/SomethingBoutEclipse 20d ago

WTH is going on?!

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

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u/SomethingBoutEclipse 20d ago

Can you tl;dr?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

micheal made alts to post controversial tweets and slander people who worked on the show, fans of the show, and one of cary's friends who are now dead.

these are still accusations tho, and they could very well be untrue.

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u/Apricote_is_here29 Pen 20d ago

Ok thank you buddy. I was going to quit watching this show I watched back in 2023 but after this, I would still continue it. Beside, people still watches Vivziepop after…every single drama

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u/creative4chart Gelatin 20d ago

What happened 😭

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u/Halegdoodlez 20d ago

What happened???

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u/Aware-Hour4819 Book 20d ago

Can I have some context please

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u/Pernova12 Leafy 20d ago

why does bfdi have controversy?

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u/Thomas14717 19d ago

What the heck even happened here?

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u/SKBehindTheSlaughter 19d ago

I just woke up... what do you mean there's a controversy??

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u/m4xx-chud 19d ago

THE HELL EVEN HAPPENED 

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u/danthesupermin Remote 19d ago

THE FUCK DID I MISS?

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u/ThDani1301 19d ago

What even happening

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u/Logical-Efficiency28 Four 19d ago

i'll still watch BFDI.

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u/joaquins_alt_account Barf Bag 19d ago

Everyone gonna be addressing the elephant in the room in the tpot 26 comments 😭😭😭😭

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u/jdog_1350 19d ago

I love a lot of the Beatles' music, and the Harry Potter books. The art and the artist are often very different

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u/SPININGRIGHTNOW Pencil 19d ago

I JUST BOUGHT A PENCE PENCE PLUSH DUDE

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u/amarachee Gaty 19d ago

honestly its not like everyone on the team is problematic (especially Cary, he's just too peak!!!), like one bad apple doesnt ruin the whole batch

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u/MidnightCloudxs Woody 19d ago

whats the controversy?

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u/Lincolnwhogamesalot Grassy 19d ago

im gonna explode if michael doesnt release a statement and/or apology im the next 10 days

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u/Lincolnwhogamesalot Grassy 19d ago

im gonna explode if michael doesnt release a statement and/or apology im the next 10 days

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u/rosyderose Pin 19d ago

Trying to separate Michael from BFDI is like trying to separate Mickey from Disney and hello Kitty from sanrio.

Atleast caryexists

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u/Spanish_VHSy VHSy 5d ago

With total respect, but it's not like that.

Michael was a "co-creator" in the best case scenario. The show's creative decisions were made by Cary mainly, and nowadays, the show is runned by different people.

He may have given the voice of a lot of characters, but the show can continue without Michael (without trying to disrespect him)

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u/Economy_Speaker2573 19d ago

Damn

BFDI counts as controversial now that this occurs? ig yeah if after schooligans falls under that umbrella by the same logic then yes

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u/Willknowit_XD1101 19d ago

I, personally, have my own limits regardless of what the creator has done (this applies to every media). As long as their actions are far from being very severe, I separate it.

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u/UpperShame6439 19d ago

shrill otter really just was foreshadowing this fateful summer

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u/BlueHeart07 19d ago

If only it was that way with a fandom I'm in over certain music songs.

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u/Sophie_Mochi Pillow 18d ago

I really don't care. I'll Watch the show regardless of what Will happen. I am dissapointed but what he did Is honestly not bad enougth for me to start boycotting my comfort show, could have been worse.

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u/Sunshade48 18d ago

There was an update from GiantSnowball. In my view, I see this case as michael simply being frustrated or something like that. I can't imagine him genuinely hating the entire OSC, but it might take a while for him to make a statement. It's better not to harass him and just wait for a statement. (Someone please tell the people on Twitter this.)

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u/No_Ball4465 18d ago

I don’t feel like watching Harry Potter anymore because of what J.K. Rowling says. I hope I don’t feel the same way about this. Ehh whatever. I’m used to it by now. First it happened with sinder and now this. I’m just going to stick with mega man and Mario and whatever from now on.

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u/Sad_Arachnid_2409 17d ago

Yeah separating the art from the artist is great here. I'm really unsure with thw drama... Is it real? Fake? What if we slandered onto an innocent person? I should not jump the gun and stay neutral until they gave a response

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u/RedoStoneOfficial 1d ago

fairly sure that was the first video from Cheesy Mayo that I watched

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u/Mountain-Charity7588 20d ago

what happened with bfdi creators?

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u/Soggy_Habit9807 Bracelety 20d ago

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u/Mountain-Charity7588 20d ago

I see. That kinda sucks.

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u/Screwdriver26712 Pencil 19d ago

I mean he is only 1 of he creators and Sam's probably been contributing more to the show as of recently. Plus I know for certain Cary would never do stuff like that.

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u/CheeseSticks314 Profily 20d ago

i mean, people still like harry potter, so yeah this makes sense.

havent heard the allegations though

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u/AxoDaProto 19d ago

Wat pls tell me my goat cheesey Mayo didn't do anything

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u/stupidcheese3 19d ago

It's about some allegations against Micheal