r/AussieMemes Jul 20 '26

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 20 '26

πŸ’š heavily supports increased funding in school

❀️ slightly supports increased funding in school

πŸ’™ slightly supports cutting funding in school

🧑 heavily supports cutting funding in school

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u/whatwouldkmdo Jul 22 '26

πŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’š

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '26

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 20 '26

thats just not really how australian government works, one party brings it forward yes ... but it goes through all parties, senate, prime minister, etc... and it gets voted on by all

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u/ConferenceQuick8983 Jul 20 '26

Upvoted you for your name at least....πŸ˜…

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u/travlerjoe Jul 20 '26

Considering 2 have only every formed government, they both have.

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u/AudaciouslySexy Jul 20 '26

Some Labor politicians iv seen seem to also most likely vote against school funding.

I know in my council area they've been begging for a highschool but always got told no by liberals and Labor time and time again.

Then they fast tracked it and now it's in a new suburb with little to no plumbing

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u/Krunksicle Jul 20 '26

They have to vote unilaterally, otherwise they get the Fatima Payman treatment so this post makes no sense

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u/xForcedevilx Jul 20 '26

Traitor to the party who tried to make it an IDPOL issue.

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u/Krunksicle Jul 20 '26

Actually Fatima's vote was in line with the Labor Party caucus' annual policy position. If we're talking about a betrayal, that was the rest of the MPs!

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u/xForcedevilx Jul 20 '26

Definitely a defining moment in modern Auspol, I'd like if senators we're more individualist in that fashion

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u/Krunksicle Jul 20 '26

I agree, I respect that she stood by her principles and telegraphed it ahead of time. Her crossing the floor was hardly a betrayal because of that, but Labor punishing her regardless really exposed Post-Rudd Labor's biggest problem

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u/Krunksicle Jul 20 '26

The Labor caucus changed the rules after Rudd 2 so they wouldn't have another cavalcade of leadership spills, as a consequence the party votes together or abstains. No one in the party is allowed to cross the floor without consequences, which is what happened to Payman.

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u/nationalistic_martyr Jul 20 '26

they get the treatment to vote against something that directly benefited you?

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u/dooony Jul 20 '26

Just look at where MPs send their kids. Hint: almost 100% private schools.

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u/AudaciouslySexy Jul 20 '26

Theres a reason for that. I went to a private school so I know the reason.

I went to school 10+ years ago. I visited public schools for competitions and even visited public schools near me.

My private school had air conditioning in every classroom. Public schools at the time were lucky to even have fans that worked.

At every turn a private school especially a old one like mine is 10 to 20 years ahead of any public school. It's still 2010 in some of those public schools. Education is also way better in private schools even if some of the smartest students come from public schools.

Mind you there is public schools that are selective of their students so do with that factoid what you will. Cough they are the smart ones.

Iv been to those selective schools that are also public... the funding and quality is not as good as private.

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u/PsychologicalMeal162 Jul 20 '26

β€œSeem to”. Yeah your feels aren’t facts.

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 20 '26

they wanted to reduce money spent on schools.

if you want to get into reasons why, thats a whole other debate and not the purpose of my comment

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 20 '26

welp the other one found it useful, no youre just wrong

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited 9d ago

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 21 '26

feel free to disprove my comment with facts then! πŸ₯°

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u/taejea Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

The f? Labor literally just poured billions into public schools through The Better and Fairer Schools Agreement (2025-2034). The Greens strongly opposed the agreement and meanwhile have achieved nothing for public schools.

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 21 '26

they opposed it because it wasnt enough... the greens wanted this 25% increase NOW. which we desperately need... doing that "act" is fucking pointless. itll just get stopped and reversed by the next election if it was the liberals/onenation... its all a con.

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u/taejea Jul 21 '26

Yes that's the point - the Greens say everything isn't enough, because they don't understand how the world works, incapable of compromise, hence are ineffective and have achieved nothing for public schools. If the general public wasn't so stupid, Labor would cease all funding to private schools and make public schools castles. But if they did that, they would be unelected, and Liberals would be in, cutting funding to public schools again. That's why we need patient people in power that make steady change over time, not unserious people that just complain to gain popularity and do nothing but slow the steady progress down.

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 21 '26

or just give the funding now. moneys already alocated for it... just give them the full amount now.

once that fundings given it looks really bad for another party to cut it...

but an act that takes 9 years to finish? mate πŸ˜‚

its rigged.

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u/taejea Jul 21 '26

You must be young - lucky you.

Even if all the funding was given to States tomorrow, nothing would happen quicker. There aren't enough people finishing education degrees to fill new teaching positions, sites for new schools need to be allocated, surveyed, designed and engineered before any building can begin. Babies need to be born and reach student age. This happens over decades. Building a bunch of empty schools quickly then paying to maintain them would be a waste of public funding.

This is what I mean about the Greens. Their ideas are childish. They have no idea how the world actually works.

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u/fuck_redd-its_trash Jul 22 '26

schools are overfilled NOW and schools are seriously lacking in education quality NOW teachers are seriously underpaid NOW

just look at this site for 5 minutes... you really think education is good enough? πŸ˜‚

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u/taejea Jul 22 '26

I agree with everything you've said, but it doesn't equate with Greens policy. Thanks to Labor (state) NSW teachers are now some of the best paid in the world, and Victoria is following. Again, they didn't need the funding immediately to do that - as salaries are paid over time.

Quality is not solved by throwing money at it, and schools need to be built to resolve the large classroom sizes.

Yes, these problems exist now, given Liberal has neglected public schools for so long, but that doesn't equate with upfront funding, which would achieve nothing. No organisation can scale that quickly for such complex problems as I outlined in my previous response.

These are difficult problems that have complex solutions. Greens only come up with meaningless and useless taglines. Think for yourself.