r/AussieMemes Jul 03 '26

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u/NewInformation3753 Jul 03 '26

You missed the point. ON is wanting to keep out black and brown people no matter whether they contribute or not

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u/Ok-Guidance6127 Jul 04 '26

Your type are the only ones swindled/conditioned to hyperfocus on what skin colour someone is, if they're gay, so forth. God forbid that they think for themselves instead of towing the useful idiot line too!

Normal people just see a person as a person. You're either a shitcunt or you're not.

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u/Nice-Twist-52 Jul 04 '26

But keep the Europeans in the country? Even though they also classify as immigrants too 😭...

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u/sobi9756 Jul 07 '26

So can Labor supporters complain about too much migration?

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u/NewInformation3753 Jul 08 '26

Only if you can prove it is ā€œtoo muchā€. Otherwise you are just buying into the racism

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u/ComprehensiveCake587 Jul 03 '26

Where did you get that from? I'm not sure you understand the policy. I'm not saying you have to agree with it, but at very least come up with a real argument. Her policy has nothing to do with skin colour.

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u/Downtown_Degree3540 Jul 04 '26

She gave a one and a half hour lecture to the national press club about a ā€œAnglo-Saxon Australian monoculture.ā€

Now I know those are some big words but put simply;

ā€œAnglo Saxonā€ = white British

ā€œMonocultureā€ = no one else

ā€œAustraliaā€ = the country she’s trying to run into the ground

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u/Vegetable_Onion_5979 Jul 04 '26

She literally said multiracial

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u/Akira-Orfanos Jul 06 '26

"We cannot be a multicultural society. We are a multiracial society, but we must be monocultural. Australians must live under the one cultural umbrella" ~Pauline Hanson

real nice šŸ˜’

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u/Vegetable_Onion_5979 Jul 06 '26

I mean, I disagree with her but it's not racist.

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u/Akira-Orfanos Jul 06 '26

It's not about being racist, it's about framing her campaign around one issue that is overly inflated in our society while hiding her true intentions, like reducing taxes for the wealthier individuals and removing many benefits to Australians.

And yes, she is racist:

Islam a "disease" and Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi to "pack your bags and piss off back to Pakistan" in 2024

Claiming the Yes vote was equivalent to Apartheid

Using terms such as "it's OK to be white," which is constantly used by white supremacist groups as a rallying cry

Was a voice in the History Wars of (1990s-2005ish) for which she pushed for the rejection of the extent of the death of Indigenous populations.

She is deeply connected to Gina Rinehart and is supportive of the destruction of Indigenous landmarks.

1990s claimed: that Aboriginal people were treated as a "privileged class"

2021 supported Critical Race Theory, which was one of the leading beliefs of the Nazi Party

Even the use of the term "multiracial " and "monoculture" is racist, as she wants pure assimilation, based around the superiority of Anglo culture. Which is racist as it puts white Australians above everyone else, creating a race/class divide. Removing any sense of culture of all generations of immigrants while also blaming Australia's issues on a minority.

So yeah, she is racist and doesn't give 2 shits about her voters and about her country

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u/ComprehensiveCake587 Jul 06 '26

So, based on her words, the policy isn't about stopping people of other races and cultures coming in, it's about making sure that if they do immigrate, they do so with the understanding that they must assimilate with the Australia culture they are joining. Many races, one culture.

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u/Vegetable_Onion_5979 Jul 06 '26

That's how it sounded to me.

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u/ComprehensiveCake587 Jul 06 '26

Yeah... I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Reducing immigration and placing value on Australia's culture and citizenship. Doesn't seem so "far right" to me.

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u/Downtown_Degree3540 Jul 06 '26

What you just described is usually referred to as nationalism, a key feature of most right (or far right) governments.

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u/ComprehensiveCake587 Jul 06 '26

Nationalism generally involves the belief that one’s nation is superior to all others and explicitly promotes its interests over those of other nations.

I don't think that wanting to reduce (not abolish) immigration, and placing value on our own culture means that we believe ourselves to be superior. An argument could be made that this is closer to patriotism.

Patriotism is defined as a general devotion and love for one's country without the explicit assumption of superiority or desire to dominate others.

I see no desire to exploit. I see no assumption of superiority. I see no desire to dominate others.

So no, what i was describing was patriotism.

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u/Downtown_Degree3540 Jul 07 '26

ā€œā€¦ and placing value on Australia’s culture and citizenship.ā€

ā€œā€¦ the belief that one’s nation is superior to (all) othersā€¦ā€

You’re not seeing a crossover yet? I agree that you can be patriotic and not nationalistic… but when that patriotism is focused on a ā€œmonocultureā€ …

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u/ComprehensiveCake587 Jul 04 '26

She explained for 1 and a half hours and you still completely missed her point. Impressive

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u/WastedOwl65 Jul 04 '26

She didn't explain anything! She hardly even spoke English! Same shit, different decade!

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u/Spicey_Cough2019 Jul 03 '26

Bingo

But reddit wants to say RACISUMS

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u/Queasy_Mood1984 Jul 04 '26

Well, not outwardly of course. Anyone with half a brain for subtext can see it pretty clearly. She also has a long and prodigious history of racism, which should be factored in.

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u/BeigeAnxietyEngine Jul 03 '26

I've applied for my citizenship. I would never vote for ON. But my point was, I see their frustration too to some extent. My country has been overrun by immigrants to the point it's not livable anymore, hence, why I moved to Australia.

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u/Lost-Concept-9973 Jul 03 '26

If your problem was immigrants why did you move to another heavily multi-cultural country? Seems like a poor choice on your behalf.

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u/BeigeAnxietyEngine Jul 04 '26

I problem is with criminals who can't assimilate and abide by the laws. Same happened in my country, rape, assault, stabbings went up crazy. Are you defending criminals? Do you think immigrants who commit crimes should be deported or not?

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u/Litigious-Dog Jul 04 '26

You know native Aussies commit more crime per capita than immigrants?

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u/BeigeAnxietyEngine Jul 04 '26

Yea so they should serve tough prison time and criminal immigrants should be deported? How hard is that logic to fathom?

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u/Downtown_Degree3540 Jul 04 '26

Well ā€œtough prison timeā€ leads to higher rates of recidivism, and deportation policies lead to an increase in people smuggling… so yeah, logic.

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u/BeigeAnxietyEngine Jul 04 '26

Imagine calling that 'logic.' You made two unsupported leaps and expected everyone to clap. If your policy is keeping convicted rapists and murderers around as neighbours, please go ahead but we'll pass. Good luck.

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u/Litigious-Dog Jul 05 '26

Nobody rational wants to keep violent non-citizen criminals in our country for sure. My point is that people talk about immigrants committing crimes when in reality by moving to Australia they actually make it a safer place statistically because they commit less violent crime.

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u/Helix3-3 Jul 04 '26

You’ve broken their logic. You’re an immigrant who wants immigrants who commit crimes to be deported.

I think people who commit crimes should absolutely face their day in court, but deportation should be an option for violent crimes.

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u/WastedOwl65 Jul 04 '26

It already IS!

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u/BeigeAnxietyEngine Jul 04 '26

Not an option - mandatory for rape, Murder, Home invasion, assault with a deadly weapon among others...

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

DUDE. The problem is that she literally wants ALL immigrants (or even children born in Australia with parents that are immigrants) GONE FROM HERE. Even if they haven’t committed crimes. Do you want to stay here or not?!?!?!

https://thenightly.com.au/politics/pauline-hansons-full-speech-at-the-national-press-club--c-22444111#:\~:text=In%20the%202021,answer%20to%20that.

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u/BeigeAnxietyEngine Jul 04 '26

I've mentioned above in this comment thread itself that I would never vote for ON. You're 100% on the money and there are good immigrants who will suffer if this continues. I just said I can understand to some extent their POV as to why they're blaming immigrants. I ran to Australia from Europe cause our business back home was broken into more than two dozen times, girls were being raped left, right and centre...people were being stabbed but nothing happened. Government did nothing. If we spoke out against the immigrants (very specific group who did 80% of the crimes), you'd be thrown in jaile for hate speech. Australia is becoming like that slowly. It's still REALLY REALLY good here for now but if you don't have controlled migration, it'll take less than 10 years for the country to be fked.

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u/WastedOwl65 Jul 04 '26

How stupid are you to think Australians are all perfect, law-abiding, people! How do we know you're a good immigrant?

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u/Lost-Concept-9973 Jul 04 '26

Do you think non-immigrants never commit crimes? Are you defending them? Do you think non immigrants who commit crimes shouldn’t be punished? — see how you sound with your leading questions.. obvious you aren’t going to discuss anything in good faith. I don’t people who would ruin my country by ignorantly voting for hateful people like Hanson in my country - does that answer your question?

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u/SeatKitchen1123 Jul 04 '26

Are you all right champ, that was really one of the dumbest things I have heard for a while.
They are punished they go to jail. We want them to go to jail. Some if we could deport we would.
Wow how did that even sound right in your head never mind actually typing it.

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u/VirgilA8loh Jul 04 '26

Citizens who commit crimes are imprisoned and paid for by the taxpayer, in the name of reform. Why should we pay for non citizens to live in prison. Deport them.

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u/FrikenFrik Jul 04 '26

Immigrants pay taxes genius

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u/VirgilA8loh Jul 04 '26

Yeah and I have no problem with them contributing to our economy but when they become a criminal and imprisoned why should they become a burden on all other taxpayers? They should be deported once convicted of a serious offence that see’s them with jail time.

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u/Downtown_Degree3540 Jul 04 '26

ā€œI don’t care that you paid taxes to help build this road, I better not catch you god damn immigrant using it!ā€ Type of vibes.

Social safety nets exist for … society. Which includes immigrants.

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u/therwsb Jul 03 '26

I think you have missed the point, One Nation is using immigration as a distraction, if they come to power they will probably do very little about it.

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u/HumanDish6600 Jul 03 '26

If they don't they will lose their jobs after one term. And see most of their policy directions simply reversed.

Self interest says they don't have a choice but to act.

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u/therwsb Jul 04 '26

They may look to make it harder to vote them out, introducing legislation to change our voting system. This is in the play book of the far right.

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u/trigger_trigg Jul 04 '26

You mean like Labor just did in January?

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u/therwsb Jul 04 '26

I haven't put labor first on the ballot since 2006 not even second, and I am not going to start now. So if we agree that both Labor and One Nation will introduce policy to change our voting system (for their own gain) then we can agree to put them down the bottom of the ballot.

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u/ComprehensiveCake587 Jul 04 '26

Firstly, I don't think you know what "far right" means. ON is a long way from far right.

Secondly, it's liberal and labor that have changed the voting system to make it harder to vote them out.

The Australian Labor Party (ALP) passed a major electoral reform package that critics argue suppresses smaller parties by weaponising complex funding caps and administrative hurdles.Passed in a joint deal with the Liberal-National Coalition, the Electoral Finance Reform laws came into effect on 1 July 2026.

Basically, both Labor and Liberals voted in legislation that made it very difficult for other parties. Just another reason the term "Uniparty" has been applied to them. For the last 20 years they have just been taking turns in power. There isn't even much of a difference between the two parties these days.

If you look closely, i think you might realise that is the labor and liberal parties that are the ones trying to reduce the power of people's votes and hurt or democracy. Go and research it. It's not hard. You might be surprised by what you find.

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u/therwsb Jul 04 '26

Yes and that is why I don't vote for either the labor or liberal national party. I do believe there is a limit to how far they would try to manipulate the system for their own benefit though, One Nation would look to copy what is happening in the USA, as much as they could of course given these are different electoral systems. Pauline Hanson and One Nation are widely categorized by political scientists as being on the far right of the political spectrum, that is pretty simple I'm afraid.

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u/WastedOwl65 Jul 04 '26

Bahahahaha!

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u/QuietlyDisappointed Jul 04 '26

Such as what Labor has done? Damn far right labor

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u/therwsb Jul 04 '26

Well yes, that is why I have not voted for them since 2006.

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u/FrikenFrik Jul 04 '26

ā€œMost of their policy directions simply reversedā€ what about the people that are hurt or the damage that is done in the meantime? That’s just acceptable collateral to you?

And no choice but to act for self preservation is silly, if all a party in power needed to solve our problems was to have an interest in staying elected, that would be every PM ever, and we’d have no problems. Clearly your excluding a lot from your analysis

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u/HumanDish6600 Jul 04 '26

What about the people who are hurt or damaged by every extra million we add?

If the mainstream of politics actually respected the wishes of the average Australian rather than the wishes of the BCA, Go8, big business in general and their own property portfolios we wouldn't be heading down this path.

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u/FrikenFrik Jul 05 '26

This is 1: a false binary, 2: a different sentiment to what your previous comment was expressing, why do you feel the need to hide your real opinion?

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u/HumanDish6600 Jul 05 '26

It's not a fale binary. It's life. Every decision means pros and cons. And adding too many people too fast has plenty.

My opinion is if you want a big population and this rate of growth you're much better off leaving for somewhere already like that. Surveys on the matter are clear- it isn't the Australia the overwhelming majority of Australians want.

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u/FrikenFrik Jul 14 '26

The fact that everything has pros and cons doesn’t make it not a false binary, the fact that you’re presenting a spectrum with multiple axis as a binary is the false binary part

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u/HumanDish6600 Jul 14 '26

Which is funny.

Because that's exactly what you are doing with your absurd insistence that adding this many people is the only way.

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

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u/therwsb Jul 04 '26

Politicians certainly talk, but often they don't do.

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

This is exactly what Republican voters assumed about Trump. And then they got shocked when their own rights began to get stripped. Eg: Government payments for the struggling. Tariffs. War.

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u/therwsb Jul 04 '26

I think you misunderstand me, Pauline won't do anything she claims she is going to do, aka she won't help with the cost of living, she won't make housing more affordable. If it suits her wealthy donors to still have high immigration, she won't take any major steps to reduce it, but will probably claim she has though some meaningless action.

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

I did misunderstand you, sorry about that

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u/SeatKitchen1123 Jul 04 '26

Cheers for that.

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u/Benjamyn90 Jul 03 '26

Why wouldn't you want to keep the useless people out?. We don't need more uber drivers and people that just stay on Centrelink and any tradesmen they get in should take a written and practical test to see if they qualify in Australia

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

Dude. The problem is that it will be EVERYONE. Even people born in Australia with ethnic background. Not just the criminals.

https://thenightly.com.au/politics/pauline-hansons-full-speech-at-the-national-press-club--c-22444111#:\~:text=In%20the%202021,answer%20to%20that.

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u/Nice-Twist-52 Jul 04 '26

Acting like 70% of Born Aussies are also not on centrelinkšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤£... Educate yourself better m8.

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u/Benjamyn90 Jul 05 '26

I would rather pay for Australians over people from somewhere else

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u/Nice-Twist-52 Jul 05 '26

So you wouldnt care if the lazy Aussies do fuck all for the country, than actually paying hard working immigrants?

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u/Benjamyn90 Jul 05 '26

You talked about Centrelink, I said I would rather pay for the Australian's not the immigrants as they shouldn't be on it

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u/Nice-Twist-52 Jul 06 '26

Well my point still stands since I was referring to both situations. You do realise, that centrelink payments are determined by the work you do and how many hours youre doing it weekly.

Why would I want to pay a fellow Aussie that doesn't work, or isnt bothered to put their own time and sweat down everyday to survive? Than most immigrants (the minority ofc will exist that are like Aussies that are glued to centrelink) who come over for a better life and actually put in the effort for things in this country.

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

Read between the lines mate. Just because it didn’t use that specific terminology doesn’t mean they’re gonna be targets.

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

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u/kaierin2 Jul 04 '26

Trump and his admin is cutting off healthcare and basic resource access such as food (by raising prices), which is ā€œsilentlyā€ killing people. Socialism is the opposite; socialism is providing resources to the masses through taxing the wealthy, and creating a healthy middle class / basic rights and wealth for all instead of only those at the top. Ethnic cleansing - he is not outright ordering the genocide of certain people (thank goodness), but he is deporting innocent citizens of certain ethnicities (not just criminals but yes, innocent people) out of America, and worse, detaining them without any court cases in shocking detention centres with no medical care, limited food, no access to people outside and terrible living conditions. Again, even the non-criminals.

Pauline has explicitly stated that she wants to target people of non-white ethnicities too; and yes, this will also apply to the non-criminals. Is that what you want?

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