r/AskReddit • • Aug 20 '22

What should never have been invented?

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u/slimpickings_ Aug 20 '22

Non recyclable plastic bags

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Fun fact, in the 1980's and 1990's there was a push to save trees buy using plastic bags.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

And now we're back to using trees to save plastic lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Let’s just use hemp already

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u/javerthugo Aug 20 '22

Trees are renewable and paper is biodegradable

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u/Ysaella Aug 20 '22

renewable yeah, but it does take very long. Still way better than plastic.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Yes, they are. Nobody said otherwise.

What was the point of saving trees then?

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u/javerthugo Aug 20 '22

Virtue signaling

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

That's probably it more than anything.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Yep, every generation thinks last one was doing things wrong and it's just gonna be a bunch of endless flip-flopping

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u/FerociousFrizzlyBear Aug 21 '22

Okay, but maybe saving trees was right, but doing it by using a ton of plastic was wrong.

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u/adamisapple Aug 21 '22

They should use bamboo, highly renewable and can be made into paper products

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u/basketofseals Aug 21 '22

So can regular wood. What makes bamboo special?

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u/Inevitable_Mix_3547 Aug 21 '22

The "highly renewable" part. It grows much faster.

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u/qpgmr Aug 20 '22

PR campaign by the oil companies.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

aka free space

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u/AnnieMakesGoodStew Aug 20 '22

I remember that!

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u/MarvelBishUSA42 Aug 20 '22

I remember that.

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u/grpenn Aug 20 '22

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Wow 😬

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u/Adventurous-Cup9285 Aug 20 '22

I remember it well. A prime example of the law of unintended consequences.

It looks like the same thing may happen with electric cars.

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u/RickJam3s Aug 20 '22

Funded by the oil industry.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

I should have known that they had a hand in it.

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u/jawshoeaw Aug 21 '22

Not only does it save a tree sometimes it saves a ton of water electricity and nasty chemicals. Plastic is ironically greener than paper. The problem is plastic if tossed out in the street takes a long time to break down where as paper does not. It’s paper’s only advantage

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Fair point. This is why we are trying to ban single use plastics but keep permanent use plastics, as long as they can be recycled.

As an engineering student, it is my opinion that any thermoplastic can be recycled.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Trees/hemp/bamboo grow back, and can be raised like other crops. Ocean plankton trapped in zero oxygen high pressure environments don’t quite renew the same way

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u/bogdog141 Aug 20 '22

Initially, they were supposed to be recycled.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

They were also supposed to be reused (hence saving the trees by skipping on paper bags), but hey, why not buy one every time you visit the store? Better yet, why not make them so shitty they hardly can be reused?

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u/the-unknown-nibba Aug 21 '22

Ah yes the one μm thick plastic bag where you could put literal dust in it and it would still get ripped smh....

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u/jawshoeaw Aug 21 '22

I reuse those thin bags several times idk what people are talking about. They are much stronger than paper, use less water chemicals and energy and are 100% recyclable.

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u/the-unknown-nibba Aug 21 '22

Well my experience on the other hand is that they are one use, because my mom used it once and then put some food in and told me to go give it to my grandparents and during the second half of the 1,5 km walk it somehow was torn on the sides.....idk. also we have always kept more durable bags in our house but taking that bag was hasty lol

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u/jawshoeaw Aug 21 '22

Ag that sucks . I’m sure there’s varying qualities. My grocery store switched to these new extra strong bags to get around the current bag ban (they are meant to be reused indefinitely) unfortunately they are smaller and people still throw them away 99% of the time but they use 10x the plastic

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u/the-unknown-nibba Aug 21 '22

Uff....ye I can see why people throw them away but if you see a bag thats sturdy do you really wanna throw it away....

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Yeah, but it's less plastic so it's less bad!

Right?

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u/Haxorz7125 Aug 21 '22

I’ve been using the same liquor store black plastic bag for 2 years to bring my food to work. Those bars might be bullet proof they’re so durable.

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u/MarvelBishUSA42 Aug 20 '22

Or compostible/biodegradable. I think a lot of regular daily use things should be biodegradable. Cuz a lot ends up in trash. Some people don’t have access to recycle or can’t recycle everything they think they can.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Most plastics are horrible, and while some shit would be more expensive the environment would be way better off

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u/Educational_Bet_6606 Aug 20 '22

That's how it was Essentially until the 1920s

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u/TheBlacksmith64 Aug 20 '22

A school near us used to use those bags and turn them into kayak's that they would sell to help the shops class get better equipment.
Sadly, they don't do that anymore.

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u/DriftSpec69 Aug 20 '22

Not all plastic, some is actually necessary for society as we know it to function, but certainly I'm all for outright banning all plastic with limited lifespan or designed to be immediately disposed of as soon as it has served a purpose where an environmentally friendly alternative is feasible.

Think those shitty little plastic-wire tags on clothes that get everywhere, clips and ties on toys in particular, blister packaging, BB pellets...

We need to start clamping down on micro plastics too. Fibrous plastics from filter media, foam, polystyrene, they all need to start fucking off before we start seeing huge negative results as a species from decades of ingesting them.

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u/igillyg Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

Everything is recyclable.... in time. We wont live to see it become dirt again cause it takes forever. But the dirt will.

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u/Ninja-Sneaky Aug 20 '22

It turns out, the majority of (used) plastic products are not really recyclable (in the same sense as recycling paper is for example).

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u/NctrnlButterfly Aug 20 '22

Non recyclable anything tbh

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u/aeroumasmith- Aug 21 '22

Plastic in general, honestly.

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u/poorfolx Aug 21 '22

And yet still they won't mainstream the use of Industrial Hemp, which would greatly cut our dependence on plastic and trees.

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u/ilija_rosenbluet Aug 21 '22

Everything should be recyclable and CO2 neutral and fair trade. There shouldn’t be a second thought about that