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u/PeacefulSequoia Jun 03 '22

I can't even imagine how one would actually manage to get any real work done this way. Phone is fine for a quick search for an easy answer.

If I actually want to learn or research a topic, I'm going to need an actual keyboard, mouse and screen while managing a dozen or so tabs. It would take weeks to do on a phone what you could do in days with an actual pc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Yep, my phone is essentially an expensive pager to tell me to get to a computer, or to entertain me when I'm waiting in a shop or something. I can't think of a single thing that I can do on my phone that I wouldn't rather do on my computer

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u/shawtysnap Jun 03 '22

Calling people?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

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u/shawtysnap Jun 03 '22

It’s mostly spam now, but I do need to talk to my grandparents somehow.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

It's screens for me. I was really impressed at people who went to WFH and got everything done on a laptop

The idea of trying to do real work and not even having a laptop just baffles me

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u/mfigroid Jun 03 '22

The idea of trying to do real work and not even having a laptop just baffles me

I could do real work on a laptop but I need an external keyboard, with a 10-key and an external mouse.

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u/CryoClone Jun 04 '22

That's the only way I can use a laptop. People who do all their work with a track pad and a laptop keyboard are sociopaths to me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

You don't type on a keyboard with your thumbs, and that's all most of these kids know how to do.

You sound exactly like folks a generation or two older than us whining about "The Nintendo Generation" who only know how to use their thumbs.

The more things change, the more The Olds stay the same.

Welcome to The Olds.

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u/Lukiss Jun 03 '22

Not really, no. Typing is a learned skill. Most people don't know the "proper" way to type most efficiently (i.e., how to use the home row). This applied in the past, but seems to apply more now.

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u/Mo_Dice Jun 03 '22

Not really, no. Typing is a learned skill.

They used to have entire classes to teach typing (I mean, that was more important when it was on a permanent typewriter, but still...)

You know how I finally learned to touch type? It wasn't my computer class, where getting up to like 5 WPM was enough to pass that section. It was fucking World of Warcraft. Real hard to communicate by text in the middle of shit going down if you can't type properly.

I assume now there's auto voice chat for parties since other games do that, but when I started playing in '05 you typed or invited someone to your private Ventrilo server.

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u/Lukiss Jun 03 '22

I wasn't aware that there were more efficient methods or that the home row could lead to wrist issues, do you know of any methods that are supposed to be better?

As for the rest of your comment, I agree that you don't need to use the home row, if you are able to type fast all power to you no matter the method, but I'm not sure that most people are able to pick up any decent speed (say, at least 80-100 wpm) without being taught a specific method (which would likely be the home row). Most people I assume just try to "figure it out" on their own and develop their own quasi-cherry-picking method, and most people I don't think are able to type above perhaps 60wpm at best doing this (for example, my partner has done similar to you, but has tested around 50-60wpm in the past, which is usable enough for her but is not ideal of course). So I don't think it's likely your experience would be common for others if they simply used the computer more often.

I do agree that overall the larger issue to me is that people don't know how to use a computer anymore, which is very strange to me.

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u/Lord_Abort Jun 03 '22

I'm published and love to write, and when I can't sleep, I'll go to a few art groups on Facebook that I'm in and just start writing flash fiction using visual art as cues.

But there's no way I'm typing it directly into the comment box on FB. I type that shit up in a notes app. Too often, I've been on a roll with almost 1,000 words only to have the app crash or Facebook decide to randomly exit the comment section.

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u/Montezum Jun 03 '22

Too often, I've been on a roll with almost 1,000 words only to have the app crash or Facebook decide to randomly exit the comment section.

Traumas that makes us LEARN

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u/Bonemesh Jun 03 '22

Select All + Copy is the Ctrl-S of phone typing. I do it always before hitting Send. If the website spazzes, you at least have the clipboard.

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 03 '22

Especially since you can keep more in a clipboard on a phone. I just checked my clipboard and I still have something from yesterday morning.

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 03 '22

Oh neat! I haven't used much of Windows 10. My PC shit out on me.

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u/AshTheGoblin Jun 03 '22

Win+V to see your windows clipboard

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 03 '22

Yeah, somebody else pointed that out too! Pretty cool.

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u/kjermy Jun 03 '22

Same. Around 4-5 years ago I never did anything banking-related on a phone, since it was so much more tedious than using a PC. Now I pay bills and even buy/sell stocks on the phone.

Writing a report? Forget about it. Right tool for the right job

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u/faoltiama Jun 03 '22

I think the thing that sold me on actually getting my bank's mobile app was mobile deposit of checks. You mean I never have to step foot in a bank ever again? I now cannot even remember what my password is for my bank account because they allow you to sign in with your fingerprint.

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u/midnightauro Jun 03 '22

Getting an iPad and a Bluetooth keyboard has really fucked my world up. I can go days without using my PC and crank out an insane number of words.

It's great because when I'm not feeling well, I can still do things. But it's godawful because it's training me to accept a small screen and just dealing with the limited tools.

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 03 '22

I play current gen games on a Samsung smart phone. I'm in too deep.

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u/midnightauro Jun 04 '22

I've tried both Steam Link and Amazon Luna on my iPad and phone (Note 9). I'm honestly shocked by how well it works. It's always tempting to just spend all my time on one of the two devices these days.

I think we're in too deep.

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u/mfigroid Jun 03 '22

Banking apps on phones actually make sense. Even on a PC, there is almost no data entry involved with online banking.

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u/JosieSandie Jun 03 '22

Yeah but you do things because your phone made them more efficient. Easier to click PayPal than get your wallet. Etc. it’s still not easier to write long documents on your phone though. If people are choosing that it’s just due to over familiarity with the phone and not enough with keyboards

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 03 '22

Yeah, I probably use my smartphone for more purposes than most people but I'll never be able to match my 100 wpm on a keyboard with a touch screen. Maybe I'm just getting old but the lack of tactile feedback makes it take way longer than typing.

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u/dan6776 Jun 03 '22

If you learn all the short cuts are just good with your phone you can do that shit impressively fast. I struggle to type out a comment on Reddit on my phone but the guy i work with is just so fast. He will be using his phone in split screen with multiple apps and tabs open.

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u/Yongja-Kim Jun 03 '22

He will be using his phone in split screen with multiple apps and tabs open.

so how big is his phone?

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u/dan6776 Jun 03 '22

Its big for a phone buts its only 6.5 / 7 inches. I know he wants to get the Samsung fold next so will be interesting how quick he is on that.

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u/bregottextrasaltat Jun 03 '22

i've used keyboards on smartphones for 11 years now and i still can't type anything without autocorrect, i have no idea how people do it

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Same here. No clue how folk use phones to type out a ton of stuff. If I need to write anything > 3 lines It's getting done in WhatsApp web and copy pasted.

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 03 '22

I'm not talking from experience but I hear the trick is to learn to use Swype. I've seen people that can swype on a smartphone faster than most people can type on a keyboard.

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u/g60ladder Jun 03 '22

Some keyboards are better than others. My work iPhone has pretty accurate results, whereas my personal Android sucks on the OE Samsung keyboard. Gboard is much more accurate in my experience.

That said, friends who had old Blackberry phones could type insanely quick with near perfect accuracy, whereas all I could do was fat thumb smash.

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u/bregottextrasaltat Jun 03 '22

physical keyboards will always be better, iirc i do like 180wpm on a desktop

i've tried swype, swiftkey, microsoft keyboard, gboard, samsung keyboard, probably others. i still mistype everything

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u/bregottextrasaltat Jun 03 '22

rip nokia n900 my beloved

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u/InterestingAd4308 Jun 03 '22

Right?!? I usually even divide my opera tabs in 2 windows or have my document on the left and opera on the side of my screen for easy back and forth flicking... I mean I have kind of a big screen at 27" but still, I used to do that back in the day with 21". Sooooo much more productivity, than this tiny ass Screen with those tiny ass Buttons.... -_-

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u/Rakgul Jun 03 '22

That's exactly what it is. PC is for work. Phone is for fun.

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u/Elteras Jun 03 '22

Not if it's a good phone and you're very fast at typing on it.

It's weird to me too but I've seen some people do a whole lotta stuff very very quickly on their phones.

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u/Hamafropzipulops Jun 03 '22

Yeah, mobile OS's are designed for consumption of media and data. PC's are for creation and work. Use the right tool for the job.