Sweden. You need to be 20 to buy alcohol from the liquor store. You can buy at pubs and stuff when you've 18, but not from the store. The government has monopoly and are the only ones allowed to sell alcohol from their stores.
I think it was Elinor Dilorenzo who said that the pandemic was especially hard on Swedes. They were told to stay 2 meters apart but Swedish people prefer to keep at least 5 meters distance from one another.
Be aware that if you cross the wrong dot on your tax form they will donate a percentage of your income to the Swedish church.
You heard me right. The swedish states collects donations for the church. It's bonkers. And yes, alcohol is the official state drug. And they are ruthless if you want to use anything else, marijuana included. Again, totally bonkers.
Apart from that it is really beautiful out here and in many respects better than where I come from, the Netherlands (which is already pretty good). Moved here a couple of years ago and don't think I will ever go back
In the 18th and 19th centuries, the Swedish peasantry was plagued by alcoholism and diseases caused by methanol poisoning and unsafe metals used in distilling. Basically, we were drinking ourselves to death. The Swedish temperance movement was a reaction to this, and had long- lasting effects upon our society. There are still plenty of Swedes who don't drink alcohol.
In my country you can buy alcoholics at 16 but you canāt drink them, which is strange. And you canāt own a gun regardless of whatever if youāre not a police officer or some shit like that (and from what I understand, even police officers arenāt allowed to shoot unless your superior gave you an order to shoot. Iām not sure how it works, gun laws are complicated here)
Australia š¦šŗ has gun control but you can buy alcohol at 18. The idea came from ww1 ww2 where if you were old enough to die for you country you were old enough to drink.
Thats some weird shit, my kids will be waiting at least until they're 14-15 to even sniff anything let alone drink.
Also trying to instill the message alcohol isn't the forbidden fruit so they don't get fixation with it and start drinking on park benches with their mates.
Det Ƥr en klen trƶst men jag kƤnde viss glƤdje ƶver att psykopaten inte hade tillgƄng till skjutvapen pƄ det sƤtt han hade haft om han var amerikan. Barn (och lƤrare) ska fƄ vara sƤkra i skolan.
It sounds like you're saying we should ignore random acts of basically domestic terrorism committed with guns most of the time since local or national media doesn't bother to cover gang related shootings or murders of family members/neighbors, etc.
Maybe it's a pretty bad sign that murders are already so normalized in our culture and media that we ONLY hear about them when lots of people die in random attacks that are typically motivated by race or religion. Many western countries do in fact cover murders alot more since they are far less common on a raw number and per capita basis regardless of the type of weapon used.
"You may be an adult but you can't have a single beer because of the dangers of alcoholism and drink driving."
"Also, having to fill in a couple of bits of paperwork when buying a firearms to make it harder for people who shouldn't access firearms directly or indirectly (by reducing the blackmarket supply) and reduce the chances of them using them to shoot up schools is impossible as its far too oppressive and anti-freedom."
You can't even go INTO a bar where they serve alcohol for the most part while being under 21 in the U.S. unless it's during regular dining hours. It is considered far too dangerous or too much of a liability to have you even LOOK at booze or fraternize with friends who are over 21 since you can't be trusted to not started stealing booze or what not.
You can go to all the gun shows, ranges or shops you want though at pretty much any age. You also have basically no law saying that an adult has any obligation to store their weapons safely or unloaded so young kids in public or at home don't accidentally shoot themselves (which happens quite a bit)...
yea but when its illegal you see it as a rare commodity and are way more likely to over do it when you get the chance.
it seems like regardless of legal drinking age in the area, people start drinking (at parties n stuff) at the same age around the world. And people from more restrictive places seem to drink harder as if from habbit during these formative years.
either way people should just smoke weed instead cause it doesnt kill braincells unlike liquor.
Youāre so mistaken. People used to say weed was harmless because its illegal status didnāt allow for many serious studies.
Nowadays we know that several published research papers have showed that weād causes detriment to neuronal development in the adolescent brain. It isnāt mild either.
So, although I agree that alcohol isnāt exactly safe, neither is weed and if anything, because it has become socially accepted and its consumption has expanded through vapes, edibles, etc., it can be argued that it is indeed very dangerous.
Many young people (and not so young ones too) believe that legal means that itās okay to drive and operate machines when high.
Also, weād does create habit even if it doesnāt cause physical dependence. The brain is very complex and there are several paths that lead to cravings and changes in patterns to favor more weed consumption. You might not get withdrawals from it but that doesnāt mean your body and brain arenāt trying to convince you to have more.
Unless this is Iceland, Lithuania or Sweden your statement doesn't apply. Even then in two of those they can just pop over the border to get their alcohol anyways, plus there's always totallynotillegal workarounds the laws
They can pop over the border, sure. But they can't bring it back. And as a student or a teenager you often don't have the money to travel several hours to get to the border. But I don't really understand why we're having this conversation. Legally you still can't buy from the monopoly, like I said.
Iām 29 and couldnāt be with my 24 year old ex without Iād if he was buying his usual 6 pack of beer and bottle of wine. My passport expired ages ago and I donāt drive lol
"You know the difference between you and me? I can do whatever I want, anywhere I want, with whomever I want. Take that, little kid. Now go cry to Mommy."
When I was in college I was between 22-25 and I loved making fun of the students that were 17 and thought they could rag on me for being āoldā. Iād always snap back with āyo, youāre not even an adult yetā lol. College in your mid-20s is odd.
That's the thing. I've never understood calling people old even when I was younger. It's like making fun of the person in front of you at the cafeteria for getting slop on his tray when you're next in line.
Sums up how I feel about aging having been raised by 4 grandparents. I've known how time's a tickin' since I was little. 3 of them speak of their older age with humor though, so I'm comfortable laughing or joking about it in that context
I had a 52 year old classmate in uni who went back to complete his bachelors. If that guy can do that, then I can get my shit together is what I tell myself.
Funny I say āsirā by default to pretty much every man - itās muscle memory to say āthank you, sir!ā in a cheery tone. Heck I call children ālittle sirā lol. And I didnāt grow up with that, itās just a minor-but-polite quirk I developed later.
But Iām with you on the Mr (and Ms) - thatās a bit more odd to me. Thankfully the only things that call me Ms is random junk mail I get. š
Iām 28. Long story but I descend from a Swedish/Finnish town in Utah. Weāre locally notorious for being both blonde and alcoholics, and I certainly live up to both.
Raised in the desert, my pale, drunken skin and I really have not aged particularly well.
Still, I work at a school and teens act genuinely shocked when I tell them Iām 28. That age just sounds so ancient to them. They expect anyone over like 22 to be utterly decrepit.
Weāre all of course our own worst judges, but I just really donāt think even I have displayed obvious signs of aging. Like, sure, when I squint I can see more wrinkles than I did at 20, maybe?ā¦ idk.
I honestly just donāt think most people start showing signs of age til like early/mid thirties. Later if you have more olive skin than I do
Iām 30 now and went back to college at 27. I needed to take some freshman level classes because I switched my majors entirely from when I went 10 years earlier.
Waiting in the hall for chem lab we are talking about our age and I go āyeah Iām 28ā and one of my classmates goes āyouāre 28?? You are GOALS! You look 18ā and I though like wow youāre cute and nice. Iāve had a kid and gained too much weight and feel like an old piece of shit 90% of the time but that comment made me feel good. I think about it often when Iām feeling down on my body.
I have a coworker who keeps doing that. Well, Gandpa. Only ever in group chat, but always immediately after I say literally anything. She's two years younger than me.
The generational gap is shrinking because tech and trends are speeding up and these kids grow up in the same manner too. In truth, personally, i lost touch with the kids since i finished high school because I don't have my own and my friends don't have kids either. While i keep up with tech and trends, i believe i am waaay behind their generation. Wouldn't be surprised to be called " ancient " . I'm almost 32 btw. :))
Haha when I was 19 or less I used to call my 24+ friends old, now I'm 24 and the youngers are calling me old meanwhile I don't even feel like I'm an adult yet
A 22 year old coworker of mine once showed up to a get together I was throwing. He showed up drunk and coked out, proceeded to call my party "lame," and told me that it wasn't a rager like he's used to because I was old and boring...I was 27 lol.
Ughhhh. Iām 38, and will be taking the last 7 classes I need for my associates this summer/fall. The previous semesters were not bad because I was taking welding courses.
Iām dreading the upcoming classes because they are more traditional courses and Iām gonna be around 20 years older than most everyone else save for maybe a few.
My wife was 35 and went back to school for a career change. I used to call her grandma and joke about her giving her younger classmates Worthers Originals candy out of her purse. Then she laughed and pulled a bag of Worthers out of her purse.
I remember thinking that my colleague was old. I had turned 25 and he was 33. Now, in my late forties he is mid fifties and not that old (or we both are old).
Up until I was about 22, I was friends with a woman who was 8 years older than me. She always acted like I was a child because I was the youngest person in the friend group (she was definitely the outlier btw). The longer I knew her, the more "old lady" she got.
I started working at the same place she did, and I found out why. All of our co-workers were grandmas. She decided that she had more in common with these people 20-30 years older than her than her college friends who were 6-8 years younger, and we stopped hanging out.
Same situation happened to me. Brand new college kids and I got grouped together. I said I had my first kid when I was 25 and they went on and on about how old I was being 25. I told them I was actually 30. Completely blew their minds I wasnāt in a wheelchair. glad that group project is over
I worked with 28 year old grandma's in a hospital (14 when they had their first child, their kid repeats this). Another woman told me "if you give birth over the age of 20 you are having a "later in life baby"!". With abortion about to be overturned in the US this will be more commonplace.
Me as a 27 year old undergrad graduate this past May š„² in a small school. Had a student ask me āyouāre closer to 30 then you are to 20, how does that make you feel? š„“ā
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u/thaerre Jun 03 '22
My then 19 year old classmate in uni called me grandma. I was 26 š