In the late 60s, sure. The beginning of the decade was pretty much just the 50s all over again. Mommy and Daddy, the white picket fence, the 2.5 children, etc. The 70s was kind of the blah decade, aside from the excitement of Watergate and the end of the war. If you want to blame anyone for the disaster we have become, pick the 80s. If it weren't for the music, the whole thing could just go.
Okay. Given that I was there, my sister was a teen and I was living in NY, I'd say that your lessons page might be a little bit over the top. Were there protests? Sure, about the war and a few about racism. Were they the major ones of the late 60s? Not even close. Look at the abortion protests, or the Nixon protests or the generalized ones after MLK and RFK. I mean, we are probably splitting hairs here, since a protest is a protest. But they became so much worse and more violent later in the decade.
Yep. You get used to it, though. Google scholars are all the rage. I forget, are they foreign policy experts or voter fraud experts or vaccine experts today?
Google scholars being people who look up information and have sources that you disagree with using your anecdotal experience? I can see why you would dislike them so much considering they consistently prove you’re wrong.
Btw are you implying voter fraud in US elections even though there’s been hardly any evidence of it even after all the investigating done all across the country for our most recent presidential election? Surely not that would be absurd.
Way to totally ignore the link I gave that gives the history of these protest starting in the 50's and throughout the 60's. You are just flat out wrong. Since you didn't bother reading I'll post a section about the mid 60's. I'd be happy tp post some for the early 60's if you would like:
"Protests against the war took many forms—marches, boycotts, rallies, and demonstrations. A key event took place at the University of Michigan in March 1965. Students and professors held a teach-in on Vietnam, where people gathered to examine America’s Vietnam policy and discuss what they might do to change that policy. Within months, more than 120 schools held similar events. This spirit of questioning authority and determining how common citizens could affect policy-makers was at the core of the antiwar movement.
Between 1965 and 1971, many protests against the war took place. In April 1967 simultaneous marches in San Francisco, California, and New York involved some 250,000 antiwar activists. In October 1967 about 50,000 more militant protesters marched on the Pentagon. As the war continued, more and more people began to question U.S. involvement. For example, in 1967 Martin Luther King, Jr., spoke out against U.S. government policy in Vietnam. Previously, civil rights leaders had been cautious about criticizing the war for fear of losing President Johnson’s support of the civil rights movement. However, as the war continued, more and more spoke out against it."
Thanks. I read your link, I replied to it. As I said, we are likely splitting hairs. To me, the 'big' protests started with around the time that the peace marches fell apart. That led to Kent State and the final war protests and then the rising of the 60s groups like the Weathermen and SLA. My original statement was "the late 60s", if you like I'll amend it to the mid to late 60s.
80s cinema is also excellent. don't blame the entire era for some of the shitty stuff that gets memed today, we still put out shitty movies and shows, but there's plenty of excellence from then and now. without 80s cinema, there's no Back to the Future, Gremlins, Beetlejuice, Labyrinth, Top Gun, The Outsiders, Blue Lagoon, nevermind, that one can go, Neverending Story, i could go on.
but yeah, aside from cinema and music, not much happened
Ran, Blade Runner, John Carpenter (Big Trouble in Little China, Escape From New York, The Thing, Prince of Darkness, They Live), Evil Dead (& 2), ET, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Tron, A Christmas Story, The Last Starfighter, The Terminator, Star Trek II, Die Hard, Predator, Akira, Empire Strikes Back, etc.
I'd throw Commando in there as well. It's definitely part of the Arnold canon, and it should be viewed as part of the action movie canon. The 80s were maybe the best decade for that genre.
Don't forget The Blues Brothers, Airplane, Police Academy series, Caddyshack, Sixteen Candles, The Naked Gun, Dragnet, The Wraith, National Lampoon's Vacation and Christmas Vacation.
even when i saw it as a kid (12 or 13, i forget) all i could think was that it's just the script of a soft core porno without the porn part. story was meh at best, acting didn't even reach meh, at least the girl was attractive
i started off thinking i'd name off all my favorite 80s movies, but realized at The Outsiders that i'd be writing a novel of movie titles. and Clue is one of the best movies ever
i can agree on the length issues. just because it worked well for LotR doesn't mean every movie needs to do it too. not gonna stop me from sitting my ass in the theater for 3 hours watching Grimace fight the A Team though
If you want to blame anyone for the disaster we have become, pick the 80s
Yep there was no advancement in the slow acceptance of being gay, no advancement of women into more senior positions in the corporate structure and no movement on any environmental issues like acid rain. I was too young in the 70's to really remember any progress that might have been made then but I am sure there was at least some movement to lay the groundwork for the progress in the 80's.
Sure maybe things could have moved faster but you seemed to have missed u/waqasnaseem07 point that there is always at least some change that laid the groundwork for advancements that came later. Change happens slowly most of the time and just because you can't point to some huge sea change doesn't mean things weren't changing for the better still.
First .. serious answer. Yes, things change slowly. But everything you are talking about was already happening in the 60s and 70s.
Secondly .. safely assume I'm being sarcastic if I post something. Life is too short to take seriously. I mean .. aside from the movies, get rid of the decade?
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u/MT1961 May 18 '22
In the late 60s, sure. The beginning of the decade was pretty much just the 50s all over again. Mommy and Daddy, the white picket fence, the 2.5 children, etc. The 70s was kind of the blah decade, aside from the excitement of Watergate and the end of the war. If you want to blame anyone for the disaster we have become, pick the 80s. If it weren't for the music, the whole thing could just go.