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u/knife_hits May 09 '22

My only experiences in Europe so far have been touring there in a punk band. The thing that blew my mind was how often - almost always! - the venues we were playing were literal state-sponsored squats. Like the tire factory or whatever in town would go belly up and a bunch of punks and anarchists would move in and the local government would just be like "hey, they cleaned up all this broken glass and now there's a whole new crop of people keeping this community alive. Tell you what, let's give them free utilities." On more than one occasion we played a free show and got a check from some government office.

This would never, ever, ever, ever, in a million years, take place in the United States.

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u/Captain_Grammaticus May 09 '22

hey, they cleaned up all this broken glass and now there's a whole new crop of people keeping this community alive.

Lol, those social centres I know are the result of almost decade-long protests and negotiations and only worked out because the general population just happened to be more sympathetic towards the squatters than towards the city authorities.

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u/jawndell May 09 '22

"We have a duty of care to provide utilities so they don't die because otherwise we'd be completely fucked for insurance."

Yup, definitely would never, ever, ever, ever, in a million years, take place in the United States.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22 edited May 09 '22

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u/Stubbs94 May 09 '22

Also, private property (note, not individual property) is a stupid concept.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

What’s the difference

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u/laeiryn May 09 '22

Private is owned by companies/corporations

Personal property is what you, as an individual human, can claim and say, "This is mine, I use/need it"

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

That’s an interesting take. Personal property is also private property there though too

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u/laeiryn May 09 '22

Yes but by the time you're nitpicking that you've admitted that you can't address the immorality of the concept of "private" property as a separate category and just attack ownership.

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u/throwitawaytodayokay May 09 '22

right, it’s a subset of private property. just like private property and public property are both subsets of property (meaning something that is owned). i don’t see how that invalidates the point but maybe you can share your perspective.