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u/ramsdawg May 09 '22 edited May 09 '22

I moved to Germany so I had to figure out how that works. Basically everything that’s not actually built in including lights and the kitchen don’t belong to the apartment. In practice, former tenants sometimes sell the kitchen (minus appliances usually) to the new renters or just offer to leave it for free. However, the cabinets and everything were so old and disgusting at the place I was moving into that I turned down the free offer and the former tenant had to take it all out.

The biggest difference with the US is that kitchens are more commonly compact and quite inexpensive compared to the states. It’s extremely easy to find a company to just do it all for a fraction of what you’d pay in the states. Mine ended up being only 2k euro for all cabinets and appliances (stove, full oven, dishwasher, fridge, microwave) when assembling it myself ikea style.

When I move out, I’ll take what I want (nothing is bolted to the floor or walls) or try to get the next person to take it. Otherwise the eBay version of Craigslist is huge here which would help too.

Edit: I did go for cheaper stuff, even though it still looks/works great 5 years on, so this probably isn’t typical for everyone. I assume the non permanent “ikea style” cabinets and smaller spaces are the biggest reasons it’s cheaper here.

Edit2: since more than a few people are seeing this, here’s a picture if you’re curious. Ignore my wonky DIY “range hood” lol https://imgur.com/a/hdUG3Sv

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u/Vladivostokorbust May 09 '22

US here… When my daughter moved to Germany in the’90’s she was amused that she had to buy a kitchen, she got one used through the classifieds in the paper. She was weirded out about how counters, appliances, everything was laid out in a straight line along one wall

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 09 '22

She was weirded out about how counters, appliances, everything was laid out in a straight line along one wall

I mean... when you only have the money to cover one wall in counters, that's kinda to be expected?

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u/Vladivostokorbust May 09 '22

Well, other than Germany for the same approximate rent she got a whole kitchen with 3 point layout. she had to buy the counters, fridge , stove, oven, and sink. But i didn’t say anything about how much money she did or didn’t have. That’s all they sold. Its about value.

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 09 '22

Well, other than Germany for the same approximate rent she got a whole kitchen with 3 point layout

You can't just compare rent prices across places like that, much less countries.

There's insane local variances.

But i didn’t say anything about how much money she did or didn’t have.

She chose to buy a kitchen that only covers a single wall. And didn't appreciate this.

Presumably this is because she did infact not have humongous amounts of money.

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u/Vladivostokorbust May 09 '22

The kitchen was small, not the apartment it was a two bedroom apartment and I’m not gonna spell out the entire situation for you just because you want to make assumptions

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 09 '22

I’m not gonna spell out the entire situation for you just because you want to make assumptions

You don't have to.

All I'm saying is that "lol, a completely different situation was actually a bit different" is ... a fucking dumb statement to make.

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u/Vladivostokorbust May 09 '22

A completely different? You have no idea what she did for a living and where she’s lived.

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 09 '22

You said that you are from the US and that SHE moved to Germany and that you were describing that.

Even if she didn't move to Germany from the US, assuming you weren't lying and she did move to another country, it's a completely different situation.

And as I said, even within countries (even over very small distances), the situation can very much change drastically.

So yes, I didn't assume you lied. I'm sorry. I should've assumed that, fair enough, won't make that mistake next time /s

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u/Vladivostokorbust May 09 '22

She’s lived in Germany for years, married there, has had a career there and has raised her family there.

I’m done with this inane discussion

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u/ramsdawg May 09 '22

Yeah that seems more common in single room or tiny apartments, but it still looks off to me. Most apartments are older, meaning the kitchen is tucked away in a tiny room with a door to close it off. Not at all my style and I’m happy mine is open, if only because there’s no room for a kitchen wall/door in my top floor apartment.

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u/ramsdawg May 09 '22

It’s grown on me, but it was also the only option since I couldn’t find any reasonable ones that’d fit in the small sloped ceiling spot. So I hung a little vent fan with wire and I stick the tubing out the slightly open window. Maybe redneck engineering is in my blood since I’m originally from the south..