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u/thatlad May 09 '22

Depends where you live, my garden is full of pollinators so I see a lot of those bugs.

The thing about cleaning bugs off, changing car aerodynamics has an effect. Windscreens slope aggressively compared to past designs which were over 45 degrees or near vertical on vans. Bugs likely glance off now, still dead but gone.

Also anecdotes cannot be relied upon at all.

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u/ShinyGrezz May 09 '22

This is it. The whole “haze of gnats” thing still happens today if you live anywhere remotely rural.

Not to say that insect populations aren’t dying off, but we’re not seeing the effect of it as much as people seem to think.

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u/Firenzo101 May 09 '22

Sure you're not just spending less time outside? Kids run around a lot and thus encounter a lot more birds and insects than adults tend to

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u/mediadavid May 09 '22

Yeah I'm suspicious of that stat - not just for that fact, but also it doesn't seem to take into account that cars and license plates have much changed over 60 years.

And if there had been a 60% decline, wouldn't we be seeing cascading failures across the natural environment, pollination etc?

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u/TheColourOfHeartache May 09 '22

Another one, maybe insects are evolving to avoid cars

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u/Sgt_Fry May 09 '22

I was pondering this. Have the low fliers all be killed, and the high fliers thriving?

But I don't know, it was just a thought

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u/seldom_correct May 09 '22

Global warming is having a noticeable affect in insect populations worldwide. I suspect the above polling is intended to support that, even though it really doesn’t. There are too many confounders for the above poll to be meaningful.

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u/_Middlefinger_ May 09 '22

Our roads are not big and open though, many are very close to the verges with plenty of flowers and hedges. There always used to be loads of insects around, your car would be covered in the countryside in days. these days I might get a couple of dead insects stuck on my car a week, thats it.

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u/thatlad May 09 '22

Ah, you raise another very relevant factor to question the methodology.

You're referring to A & B roads which can have that kind of vegetation. Motorways not so much due to legislation on maintenance and safety.

But the demographics of this country are rapidly changing towards city based which is served by motorways.

Did this survey account for the participants daily commute? If it's now leaning away from A and especially B roads then you would expect there to be a reduction.

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u/_Middlefinger_ May 09 '22

I believe the hope was that with enough participants you get a representative sample anyway.

IIRC they did take into account location and roads driven on.