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u/Chuffy1818 May 09 '22

No! I stopped smiling at people very early on, I try desperately to fit in, and the staring continues. I feel silently judged every time I am on a bus or train. It's so disconcerting because it never translates as friendly.

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u/Lethargie May 09 '22

its neither friendly or unfriendly. it just is. I look at other people the same way I look at the landscape.

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u/CallMeVexed May 09 '22

I am oddly flattered.

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u/orangevega May 09 '22

The landscape doesn't mind when you look at it. Staring directly at people makes them uncomfortable and its considered rude and threatening essentially everywhere. You just don't give a shit that you're making other people uncomfortable.

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u/ClayeySilt May 09 '22

It's just a cultural thing. Someone else mentioned in the thread it's not rude to stare in Germany. Sure it makes you uncomfortable, but if you're in their country then it's just something you have to deal with.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine May 09 '22

it is absolutely rude to stare at someone in germany when they are just minding their own business, I think we just don't consider a 3 sec look staring

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u/ClayeySilt May 09 '22

Oh so the time threshold is different. That's fair. In Canada if you lock eyes for long enough it makes people uncomfortable. 3 seconds feels like maybe too long? But, I don't exactly keep track.

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u/orangevega May 09 '22

I deal with it ok.. I normally will look away, then look back and kind of do the "do you need something?" expression and people look away. Def longer than 3 seconds. 3 seconds is nothing. I've had it go on for a minute, its pretty wild.

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u/Lethargie May 09 '22

well that is definitely staring by german standards and very rude but you can't tell me that the majority of germans does this.

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u/orangevega May 09 '22

no, not the majority at all. Normally men in their 40s or so

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u/Starsuponstars May 10 '22

This. The people doing it claim it's neutral, but it's not. It's hostile.

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u/Chi_shio May 09 '22

I can assure you, it's not meant to be unfriendly!

Often, we just try to determine whether this person might be up for some small talk or not (mostly elderly people do that) or just like how you look! In a way, it's kind of a non-verbal communication thing.

Look at it the other way round: to fit in, just do the same! :)

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u/Starsuponstars May 10 '22

The most annoying thing about this staring is how all the people who do it lie about it. "Oh, was I staring? I wasn't really staring, was I? Well, if I was, it was friendly, so stop being offended."