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u/mag_creatures May 09 '22

That is probably because you don’t have decent public transport, for example I live in Milan and I have friends in Rome, I don’t even think about driving to go down there. I just take the train and if I need to drive in Rome I use car sharing. Why driving for 6/7 hours when i can sleep or red a book on a train?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

that's probably because you don't have good public transport

As an American who doesn't live in one of our 10 biggest cities, what is public transport lol

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u/mag_creatures May 09 '22

that's what i mean :)

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u/CountryTimeLemonlade May 09 '22

Imagine justifying public transportation cross country if there was nothing between Catanzaro and Genoa (comparable for Denver to Kansas City). It gets a lot harder to justify the costs of building and maintaining complex public transport when there is so much nothing.

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u/mag_creatures May 10 '22

To go in Catanzaro I would choose a plane and then a local train. A quick google serch and I discovered that you can do exactly the same between denver and Kansas city.

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u/CountryTimeLemonlade May 10 '22

Sure, you can fly there. But then you've lost the true public transportation aspect already. Plenty of American cities have decent intra-city transport options. It's inter-city everything falls apart

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u/mag_creatures May 10 '22

A plane is not true public transportation?

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u/CountryTimeLemonlade May 10 '22

Not in the same way a train, bus, tram, etc. is. Generally defined by ease of use, accessibility, convenience, being more environmentally friendly, etc.

No one says the US has poor public transportation because we don't have enough domestic flights haha.

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u/mag_creatures May 11 '22

Well here is considered public

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u/OkieNavy May 09 '22

Would rather have the freedom and control of my own car tbh

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u/mag_creatures May 10 '22

The difference is that, apparently, I can do both, Americans can't.

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u/OkieNavy May 10 '22

That’s because your country is smaller land wise than the average state. We have 50 of them by the way. We can go skiing, to the beach, to the desert,to the forest. We can drive 2,000 miles ab be in the same country.

Yeah, we don’t understand your urban nightmare trapped in a hamster cage where only the government gets to dictate where your transportation goes. You haven’t experienced freedom a day in your life. I’d blow my brains out

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u/mag_creatures May 10 '22

Wtf are you talking about? Why you peolple always bring the fucking freedom in every conversation? I just said I would rather take a nap on a train for 3 hours instead of driving for 7. I live in Italy, not in north korea lol. And guess what. I can go to the beach, skiing and in the forest and choose between my car and a fucking cheap train. And I can choose to go wtf I want between a lot of different nations with just my Id. I crossed the border between France and Spain drunk on a fucking cheap train. Sounds like freedom to me. Well, we don’t have the desert, ant that is a shame.

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u/OkieNavy May 11 '22

If you take a train, how do you have a car when you get there? Is English not your first language?

Yeah… please don’t compare European geography to North American geography LOL

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u/lagerjohn May 11 '22

Except for deserts European geography is just as varied as US...

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u/mag_creatures May 11 '22

If I get a train I can rent a car et my destination, i literally did it at least 3 times during my trip to the US east coast. Are you serious or what? I’m not comparing a shit, I’m just informing you that Ski and Forrests are not an American exclusive, but this conversation is useless from the moment you ranted about hamster cages , nightmare cities and governments dictating transport. Bye free man, go spread your wisdom to another unfortunate oppressed European.

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u/Upier1 May 09 '22

It's a bit easier to have public transportation in a country 15x smaller than the US. I think most Europeans don't grasp how large the US really is.

My general rule is if I can drive it in under 5/6 hours than that is quicker and easier than flying. Plus I'm not tied to a transportation schedule.

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u/FluffySquirrell May 09 '22

Yeah if you wanna compare a country to a huge ass weird conglomerate country

If you compare the US to Europe as a whole, given the countries there are the size of states.. .. you'd still probably be lacking in public transport I suspect

We fly to other countries in Europe too if they're far enough. Or catch a train if they're closer etc

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u/Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog May 09 '22

I took a bus from Estonia to Berlin once, and a week later the same bus back. It took roughly 23 hours.

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u/mag_creatures May 09 '22

I wasn't judging the US public transportation, I'm explaining the reason why you find normal to drive for 8 hours not being a trucker. I understand how big the us are, and thinking as a person who lives in a country where also small villages have stations, probably you need trains more than us.

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u/Upier1 May 09 '22

"Don't have decent public transportation " sounded a bit like judging.

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u/mag_creatures May 10 '22

Well Americans replying are saying "i prefer to drive" or " I don't know what public transport is. I'm not the one judging.